Penn State Sandusky Trial #10

[Reader]

Those remarks are, IMO, just plain SICK. This Amendola must think he is competing for a "Daytime Emmy" award. He is making light business of all this for the record.

As for the "All My Children" remark, it sounds like, IMO, that he is just using those boys/men as a prop for that cute little remark -- he is making light business of the trust, hurt, self-doubt, self-hate, and confusion of those little boys who have grown up with this in their past and present. Seems almost criminal, to me. Grrrrrr. :banghead: Birds of a feather, IMO.

Agree! He and the whole JS 'friends corner' are making light of the boys and the trial. Dottie high-fiving someone as she leaves the stand, JS laughing and joking with people during breaks, the friends laughing in court...it's disgusting and callous. The jury sees a lot of that and should see the contrast with the pain and suffering of the victims during their testimony, and realize that the 'heart of gold guy', the 'help the children guy', his wife and supporters really didn't and don't care about these boys at all.

 

[costalpilot]

@azwriter...it might not be a bad idea to explain the "two different people" model to the jurors with some recent examples, as this should effectively counter the "hes just a good ole boy" character witnesses that have testified...people like the btk killer, who was a church deacon while he bound, tortured and killed all those women in Oklahoma, and examples like him.

folks not aware of that human trait might be led to wonder if its possible, which is of course. Joes great hope.

 

[Reader]

Going back over Dottie's testimony today I noticed a couple of things. These 2 tweets give the lie to what she said about the sleeping arrangements:

Dottie #Sandusky: Children who stayed over were given choice of where to sleep: basement, first floor or second floor of sandusky house.
by matthewkemeny via twitter 4:16 PM yesterday

Dottie #sandusky: Jerry would go downstairs to tell the children goodnight before coming to bed.
by matthewkemeny via twitter 4:17 PM yesterday

hmmm....why did good ol Jer have to go 'downstairs' to say goodnite if the boys could have slept anywhere they wanted....a little freudian slip?

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Dottie in her [coached] testimony about the 'hotel incident' with victim 4 on the Alamo trip said she came into the room and found JS and the boy arguing in the bathroom/dressing room area and they were fully dressed. However several sources have quoted the testimony of the victim about this incident very differently:

He described staying in a hotel with Sandusky and his wife on the road to attend one such bowl game, and being in the bathroom getting ready to take a shower when Sandusky walked in.

"He came in and was basically doing the caressing on me, ... and then started to push down on me, to motion me to go down there," the witness testified. "And he said, 'You don't want to go back to Snow Shoe, do you?" referring to the Pennsylvania community where the then-teenager was living.
This incident ended, Victim 4 testified, when Sandusky's wife called out, "Jerry, ... what are you doing in there?" at which point the alleged victim said he "jumped in the shower and locked the door."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/11/justice/pennsylvania-sandusky-trial/index.html

According to the witness, Sandusky tried assaulting him in a hotel bathroom before a bowl banquet in Texas and threatened to send him home when he resisted, warning: “You don’t want to go back, do you?’’ Sandusky stopped only when his wife, Dottie, called out from another room, the witness said.

http://www.boston.com/sports/colleg...l_opens_with_graphic_testimony_from_victim_4/
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/11/justice/pennsylvania-sandusky-trial/index.html

Sara Ganim‏@sganim
Dottie #Sandusky came into hotel room during abuse of victim 4, who was in bathroom w/ jerry prosecutor said

Oh, who to believe? who to believe? lol

 

[costalpilot]

the dottie high five

we've all done it. we all know what it means.
its a sign of satisfaction, shared with another person, about something that both have just experienced.

think about that. is there ANY WAY dottie or anyone else could do a high five in that situation if they actually believed their spouse was innocent and was being railroaded?

imo she was elated her testimony was over without her lies being exposed. what else could she possibly be satisfied about, considering the real spot they are in?

 

[costalpilot]

This suggests that Dottie learned to follow. She knew that she was expected to fall into place behind Jerry. Dottie may have been strong in her own home, but she had a different public persona. :moo:

sgt schultz is what it was


imo

 

[ThoughtFox]

the dottie high five

we've all done it. we all know what it means.
its a sign of satisfaction, shared with another person, about something that both have just experienced.

think about that. is there ANY WAY dottie or anyone else could do a high five in that situation if they actually believed their spouse was innocent and was being railroaded?

imo she was elated her testimony was over without her lies being exposed. what else could she possibly be satisfied about, considering the real spot they are in?

Definitely - I took it to mean that she had pulled the wool over the eyes of the Jurors and gotten in all her "talking points" that the Defense had told her to use. High five.

But it probably made the Jury wonder whether to believe her or not. Most adults in a scary situation and in a court of law do not high five. It seems juvenile and really sort of stupid.

 

[blah956]

A psych eval on Dottie would be good. Two decades of denial and she's outed to the world. Sh'e still in "defense mode" and disassociated from her own culpability.

I have a feeling that when this is over and she doesn't have to be in the trenches of the trial, it's all going to come caving in. The so-called "lifelong friends" may rally around her out of sympathy for a while but then they will have to go back to their own lives. Whispers and innuendo will follow her around for the rest of her life. She's always going to have to wonder what people are thinking of her.

Even if he is acquitted (doubt it!) she will most likely have a lot of rage toward him for what he's put her through and then there's always that reality of what he put those young kids through. Sooner of later her subconscious mind is going to rear it's head.

Then she will have a full-blown case of PTSD.

Meanwhile Jerry, who like all pedophiles thinks that sick sex was his way of showing he "loved" the boys, will maintain his innocence and be blissfully unaware of anything or anyone but himself. He's just a simple, uncomplicated, good old boy - a nice guy who helps kids. Nobody understands him. I hate to say it, but when if the so-called PRISON OUTRAGE against pedophiles happens to him, he'll just go on trying to charm and convince people that he's a good guy at heart.

there are many women who are married to pedophiles that will never accept it. and even if they do accept it, they will find a way to take the fault and responsibilities off their husbands.

 

[katydid23]

the dottie high five

we've all done it. we all know what it means.
its a sign of satisfaction, shared with another person, about something that both have just experienced.

think about that. is there ANY WAY dottie or anyone else could do a high five in that situation if they actually believed their spouse was innocent and was being railroaded?

imo she was elated her testimony was over without her lies being exposed. what else could she possibly be satisfied about, considering the real spot they are in?

THANK YOU. Can you imagine if your husband was accused of such horrid vile acts, that you would high five a friend, right after taking the stand in a desperate attempt to save him from life in prison? I would never be high fiving in that situation.

It just shows that she THOUGHT she did a slick job on the stand. imo

 

[katydid23]

I am happy to hear that Jerry was laughing and joking around with his 'team.' Hopefully the jurors took note of that.

 

[CarolinaMoon]

Just as someone mentioned above we don't get everything on the tweets. I don't know about JVM, don't watch her, but this AP article says that McGettigan DID cross examine Dottie:

Sandusky wife defends his contact with young boys

http://www.centurylink.net/news/read.php?rip_id=<[email protected]>&ps=1011

........In a calm voice during an hour of testimony, she described her 45-year marriage to the former Penn State assistant football coach, but lead prosecutor Joe McGettigan appeared to stump her when he asked why the men might lie in making the accusations.

"I don't know what it would be for," she said, with a slight shake of her head.

A large portion of the day's testimony, which included 11 more character witnesses, consisted of a defense psychologist, Elliott Atkins, who told jurors he believes Jerry Sandusky has a personality disorder that might explain letters addressed to one of his accusers, while prosecutors countered with psychiatrist Dr. John Sebastian O'Brien II, who said that was not the case but that he might suffer from some other problem, possibly psychosexual disorder with a focus on pre-adolescents.

More at link....

Well, I certainly was wrong to pay attention to details from somebody else who wasn't there! :banghead:

Apparently, she was asked a couple of low-key questions to which she had no good answer as stated in the article you linked. I heard another report that said it was all cut-and-dried, no real emotion.

I'll have to wait for a summary on InSession this morning to hear some more from people who were there. Trouble is, I don't always agree with them!

 

[waltzingmatilda]

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...she-never-heard-or-saw-evidence-of-abuse?lite

Gail Saltz, an associate professor of psychiatry at New York Presbyterian Hospital Weill-Cornell School of Medicine, said the diagnosis was highly controversial in her field.

"This would be an incredible stretch &#8212; so much that it disturbs some of my colleagues that they are bringing it up," Saltz said in an interview Tuesday on NBC's TODAY.

"This diagnosis has no bearing on your moral compass, your ability to understand what's legal," she said. "It has nothing to do with being a pedophile. it has nothing to do with sexual behavior toward children."


OT I heard on the Bloomberg report this morning that Happy Valley, PA has the lowest number of car thefts in the nation. It's nice to hear something good about the place.

wm

 

[Tipstaff]

Having HPD does NOT preclude one from also being a Sexual Predator!

 

[waltzingmatilda]

Having HPD does NOT preclude one from also being a Sexual Predator!

It also appears to be a desparate hail mary pass, IMO. I think/hope the jurors are smart enough to know this.

Me thinks Jer's former DIL who denied him visits with her children is a wise woman. Wasn't she granted a RO to keep him away from her kids? I wonder what Dottie thinks about that?

moo

wm

 

[gxm]

Definitely - I took it to mean that she had pulled the wool over the eyes of the Jurors and gotten in all her "talking points" that the Defense had told her to use. High five.

But it probably made the Jury wonder whether to believe her or not. Most adults in a scary situation and in a court of law do not high five. It seems juvenile and really sort of stupid.

BBM.

This! ^^^ Truly bizarre behavior. This is a trial involving sexual abuse of children; it's not a game.

 

[Cappuccino]

I bet that high five went down like a lead balloon with the jury. Do these people have an ounce of sense?

 

[Quiche]

BBM.

This! ^^^ Truly bizarre behavior. This is a trial involving sexual abuse of children; it's not a game.

Knucklehead comes to mind.


Wonder if old Jer has primed his vocal chords?

 

[Quiche]

Even after testifying Tuesday, Dottie #Sandusky remains absent from family gallery.
by cvmikesisak via twitter 6:07 AM

Read more: http://livewire.wtae.com/Event/Jerry_Sandusky_Trial_2#ixzz1yL3bZuK0

 

[waltzingmatilda]

I said I reserve my opinion about Dottie until she testified. Now I'll share w/y'all.

That high five was very distasteful behavior in a court of law and shows alot about her character. This is not a darn football game! It's a trial about the most horrific form of abuse and betrayal against young boys!

She needs to woman up, gain some self respect and pull her head outta her ***!

my opinion.

wm

 

[costalpilot]

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/06/jerry_sandusky_trial_one_clear.html



a must read...the pulwitzer prize winning reporter points out that the only people that were smiling and lauging were sandusky and his supporters, and the jury WAS NOT LAUGHING.

 

[Quiche]

All the morning arrivals are pictured at this link-- the images of Sandusky always strike me as odd, it's as though he's not really present. Idk, just odd, imo.

RT @matthewkemeny: #sandusky said nothing as reporters asked him if he will testify today. His son, E.J. was there helping Amendola and ...
by cvmikesisak via twitter 5:54 AM

Read more: http://livewire.wtae.com/Event/Jerry_Sandusky_Trial_2#ixzz1yL5FMMvA