Penn State's athletic director plus ex-Paterno assistant charged in child sex case

[rossva]

McQueary wasn't a kid at the time. He was 27 or 28 years old when he witnessed the incident.

I agree. I also started wondering about his dad. I mean, if one of my kids came home and told me they had witnessed something so horrible...how would I live with myself if I didn't immediately pick up the phone and call the police?

Who else did McQueary tell that couldn't be bothered to make a phone call?

There is plenty of shame and blame to go around!

 

[Filly]

These incidents happened a long time ago. Where have the parents been? In a case involving a coach of a University, you would think their story would be worth something to the media. Nothing, including a prosecutor, would have kept me from shouting on a mountain...THIS MAN abused my child!!!

To reinforce what angelmom said. These aren't kids who got dealth the best cards. That's a plus for pedophiles. They are at risk youth which means for some dang reason they had to be seperated from family.

A long time ago? For the survivors/victims of child sexual abuse it happened yesterday, last week, and suddenly 100 years ago. It pops up in every aspect in your life even when you don't realize it. You question yourself over and over.

It could be they didn't have parents physically or psychologically. Who are you going to tell? Who will believe you over a man that has a bajillion dollar outreach program that helps o many kids? How would it go over your alcoholic daddy decides to take on someone like Sandusky? How will your cleaning woman mommy stand on a mountain against someone like that guy? Why even tell if you had the language to what happened to you? That's if you don't second guess your little 10 year old self?

The blame belongs right where it belongs. On Sandusky. Unless we live the lives of these parents and their kids we can't fathom.

As usual a pedophile chooses his victims very carefully. If he wasn't going to a third world country to prey on kids why not prey on those who are flippin dirt poor here? Poor kids who they now give gifts, education and and a better "taste" of life to?

 

[wfgodot]

"This Is Almost Like A Modern Day Crucifixion": Penn State Players React To Paterno’s Dismissal (Deadspin)

 

[Filly]

O/T but not!

With all the press and TV coverage of this case I'd like to relate how it's effecting people in my immediate circle.

Family friend. "Allegedly" abandoned by her parents only to be helped by neighbors who called DHS. Yes this was many, many years ago. My poor friend this is sending triggers galore. Out of nowhere she comes to my home broken. She's always been broken despite being an excellent mother and grammy herself. "Nobody cares. See? Nobody cares. Look what this guy got away with". To "Where do you think these poor guys are? I bet some have died on the street all alone like my brother". Poor woman is beside herself and alot has to do with her family. "GET OVER IT".

Sadly you don't get over being sent to an orphanage. You don't get over being lied to. You don't get over being sexually assaulted in several foster care homes.

To the most backwards things I ever heard someone say. My friend a huge football fan. Loves college ball. He says to me "I swear that McQ only went to his daddy because he was jealous. I bet he was Sandusky's lover and got too old and got jealous when he saw him with that young guy.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that was not a younger guy it was a child ya fool. He couldn't be a da*n lover because he was a kid. A kid. A kid. That's not a relationship. Kids can not consent. Call it what it was. A sexuall assault on a child. That is illegal dumb*ss.

Milton Hershey School up in Lancaster is going through it's own crisis. Again, kids who come from very little. If anything I pray this case will help open people's eyes. This is real. It's not pretend.

Oh and at that I had to once again tell my fool a*s friend that NO the boys were not consenting. Dear Lord these are kids just trying to survive for God's sake.

 

[wfgodot]

BreakingNews Breaking News
NBC News reports Joe Paterno has hired a prominent Washington criminal defense lawyer to
represent him in the Penn State sex abuse case
10 minutes ago

http://twitter.com/#!/BreakingNews

 

[davehead21]

"This Is Almost Like A Modern Day Crucifixion": Penn State Players React To Paterno’s Dismissal (Deadspin)

Oh my. Well, I take back my earlier statement about feeling empathy for the current players....at least the ones who were quoted in this article.

 

[1&2&3]

The number of victims at Penn State is 17 from an HLN report I just heard. What happened, did victims get scared and stop reporting? For the intensity of this crime, the length of time it went on, and the depth it reached, this number does not begin to represent a true accounting! If this has been going on since 2001, this is 1+ a year, don't buy it!!

What is going on? Why are more not coming out? Something is wrong!!

Like payoffs or what??

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Now what does Paterno need with a hot shot criminal lawyer?

 

[Dr.Fessel]

These incidents happened a long time ago. Where have the parents been? In a case involving a coach of a University, you would think their story would be worth something to the media. Nothing, including a prosecutor, would have kept me from shouting on a mountain...THIS MAN abused my child!!!

This Predator would not have picked your child to rape. He groomed them he checked out their family life, he knew who to attack after much research.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Disgusting


Multiple sources connected with the Penn State football team tell TMZ ... coaches held a meeting with players today and told them their friends and family should show support for ousted coach Joe Paterno by wearing white to the game on Saturday.

It's a bold move, considering there is a university-wide move for people in the stands to wear baby blue to support the alleged sexual assault victims of Jerry Sandusky.

In addition to wearing white, we're told the coaches informed the team they may change the time and location of the pre-game meal because of security concerns.

And, we're told, the coaches assured the players there would be "enhanced security" for the game.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/10/penn-state-team-wear-white-support-paterno/#.TrxzhGHGCxM

 

[Peazzzer]

Hello! I think the students rampage over JOE P firing may have something to w it. Mr MQ may be a whistle blower as far as saying anything to even someone, could be thats why he is still there. i heard that from jvma. Makes sense tho on our really fine judicial system. Seems a low life like MQ would find a way around it. Sorry crying again.

 

[Boodles]

It sounds like Penn State allowed Sandusky to remain employed until he reached his pension eligibility date which was probably when he reached age 55. Which means he may now be receiving a pension payment from them every month (although it could have been a lump sum). That's disgusting.

And the DA is missing and declared dead? How weird is that? Any connection?

As for no more victims coming forward, heck, I wouldn't come forward right now. The media needs to handle this very carefully and responsibly. These victims deserve their privacy. They have suffered enough trauma and violation.

 

[Emeralgem]

The number of victims at Penn State is 17 from an HLN report I just heard. What happened, did victims get scared and stop reporting? For the intensity of this crime, the length of time it went on, and the depth it reached, this number does not begin to represent a true accounting! If this has been going on since 2001, this is 1+ a year, don't buy it!!

What is going on? Why are more not coming out? Something is wrong!!

Like payoffs or what??

First claims of abuse were in 98'.. Apparently he was forced to retire in 99.. So this was going on earlier than 2001...JMHO.

 

[Boodles]

Disgusting


Multiple sources connected with the Penn State football team tell TMZ ... coaches held a meeting with players today and told them their friends and family should show support for ousted coach Joe Paterno by wearing white to the game on Saturday.

It's a bold move, considering there is a university-wide move for people in the stands to wear baby blue to support the alleged sexual assault victims of Jerry Sandusky.

In addition to wearing white, we're told the coaches informed the team they may change the time and location of the pre-game meal because of security concerns.

And, we're told, the coaches assured the players there would be "enhanced security" for the game.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/10/penn-state-team-wear-white-support-paterno/#.TrxzhGHGCxM

WHAT??????????? That is so damn wrong! The acting president needs to step in and take charge of those coaches. That's an act of coercion. I strongly feel that Saturday's game should be rescheduled. It is wrong to expose these players to this situation. It's a lose-lose situation. And the players have done nothing to deserve being hated on by the public. Things are too volatile right now.

 

[belimom]

I'm just jumping into this thread. I read the entire grand jury report earlier this evening and I am sick. Physically ill. I have a son who is almost 9 and that report sickened me, angered me, and brought me to tears.

I hold McQueary also responsible for not calling LE himself. He was an adult. A grown man. And for not stopping it. I'm a 5'4" female and there's no way I could have stopped myself from jumping on Sandusky's back, hitting him in the head with a pipe, something, anything to make him stop raping a young boy.

This story is absolutely awful. I went to the Univ of Ga, where Vince Dooley was God. So I can totally picture the 'vibe' of the Penn State atmosphere and how football rules. I really lost it when I read that a football player said that it was "criminal" how Paterno was let go. Criminal? CRIMINAL?!? CRIMINAL is raping and molesting boys! :furious:

This case is disturbing on many many levels, from those innocent little boys to the cover-up that went on. Prayers for the boys/men that were harmed and their families. No, not for any of the coaches or university staff. Nada.

(ETA: I hope it's okay to vent here. I am livid. Just livid. Thanks for 'listening'.)

 

[Peazzzer]

Wear white to support Joe? Whiskey tango foxtrot so the football program is dividing the pervs From the victims? Then I call bull and say the whole kit and kaboodle bunch of that football program needs to go! Years ago I had a cousin that went to Penn SU, it was 27,000.00 a semester! Dang near 20 years ago! This whole thing is just sickening. totally.

 

[belimom]

One result of this: the other day my son (almost 9) had swim practice and did not want to go into the locker room alone. The family changing room was occupied so I told him that I would stand outside the locker room door. He said he really didn't like going in there by himself. But I was in a hurry so I urged him just to go on in. He went, and I kept asking every couple of minutes if he was okay. (He was).

Tonight, after reading the GJ report, I asked my son why he was afraid of the locker room. He said he didn't know. I asked if anything bad had ever happened. He said no. I asked if anyone had ever hurt him in the locker room or in a restroom. He again said no. He then admitted that the locker room was scary b/c it was dirty and some of the lights were out (he's a very 'scared' type of kid). I told him that if anything ever did happen in a locker room - if he got hurt, or someone tried to wrestle or anything - to let me or his dad know. He said he would.

We have a pretty good dialogue with our kids anyway, and I'm super duper cautious. But now I realize that it's never too young to start addressing this good touch/bad touch stuff...

Okay, I'll get off my soapbox and stop with the personal stories now....

 

[raeann]

http://espn.go.com/college-football...rs-player-fan-safety-penn-state-nittany-lions

I actually feel sorry for the fans and players of Nebraska who are in town for the game this weekend. Hopefully the added security will be able to keep things under control.

.......and you have NO IDEA how hard it is for me to say the words "feel sorry for Nebraska fans"!!!!!!!!

 

[Blue_Dolphin308]

Local news is stating that there is more to come on McQueary. I have a feeling he is about to get the ax too! And rightfully so!

http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/mc-penn-state-paterno-aftermath-20111110,0,6354830.story

 

[elainebenice]

The thing that bothers me the most about Paterno's role in this entire thing is the fact he worked with Sandusky for 30 years, coached him for 4 years, and obviously knew him for a total of many more years. There is no way anyone can convince me that in all of those years Paterno was not told by others about questionable behavior by Sandusky and/or did not witness questionable behavior himself, especially when it appears a LOT of Sandusky's assaults happened in the football facility where Paterno himself worked every single day. Assuming Paterno did know of Sandusky's behavior himself or at the VERY least "knew" in his own mind that there was something a little "off" with his friend/co-worker of 30+ years, why did he allow Sandusky to continue coaching in his program for so many years? All we've heard about in the past few days is how much power Paterno has at Penn State. If this is true, and I firmly believe it is, Paterno could have easily ended Sandusky's employment with the school at ANY point prior to 1999 and with Sandusky's reputation as one of the best defensive coaches in college football (at the time), he wouldn't have had any problems getting a job at another school w/in days. Why did Paterno choose not to take the easy way out of the situation when he had plenty of opportunities? To me, the only explanations can be that either a) he simply chose to knowingly allow child rape to continue b/c of Sandusky's coaching ability and/or their friendship OR b) once his personal knowledge or suspicions finally reached a level to make him decide Sandusky had to go, he/PSU found out all of Sandusky's dirty details and decided it was better for the school to allow children to be raped on their campus b/c the potential liability they had on their hands if it became public knowledge was more than they were willing to risk. Paterno may be an old, feeble looking man now, but its important to remember that he's known Sandusky since he was approximately 40 yrs old and he wasn't an old, feeble man then or for many, many years after that.