Perp on the forums

  • #21
I don't remember about an issue with a bike.
JonBenet got a bike that Christmas and maybe Patsy did too.
JR had collected JonBenet's bike from the Barnhills, where it had been hidden until Christmas day.
 
  • #22
OK, not many responses to my question (this thread seems to have gone off topic).

I think the perp would find the forums irresistable. The FACT that the ransom note was so long and rambling suggested a desperation to throw the police off the tracks. Kind of like the way that profilers know a person is lying because they will supply too much information - embellishing the lie to try and make it more convincing.

If the perp is a cocky person, then he/she will be just thrilled to have gotten away with murder. He might have gotten cockier - taken some risks with online activity. If the perp was traumatised by the murder, then he/she will be just relieved to have escaped justice. He/she might nervously follow the forums for information - to see how close folks were getting to the truth. He might post misinformation to muddy the waters. I think he would almost certainly use a variety of hats.

The perp could fit into several categories and I think that the behaviour on the forums would be different for all of these:-

1) a member of the family
2) a friend of the family
3) a casual acquaintance
4) a complete stranger

I don't think the perp was a complete stranger because a stranger would have had no reason whatsoever to perform any staging. It would have been in and out fast as he could IMO.

If the perp had any kind of obsession with the Ramseys, then I think he would try to get close to any poster that he thought would be able to provide inside information about the family. In order to get close to such posters, he would have to align himself with their beliefs. That is why I think he/she would present hirself as RST.

I think we should look at old threads where jameson wrote about her brief contacts with the Ramseys and see who asked questions on those kinds of threads.
 
  • #23
I don't post on this forum too often but read regularly and always on the more current forums of this board, and unfortunately am exactly who I claim to be and just as boring. I think that Patsy was involved but have always seen how, maybe, a psychotic sadist bent on revenge could have murdered JonBenet. The writer of the ransom note seemed to mention snippets from several movies and books, so the writer of it must have been up to date on things going on in the world of movies and in reading and had a wild imagination. This same person could easily be/ or have been online reading and looking up all sorts of info pertaining to this case. I know that I look up everything that is of any interest to me online.
 
  • #24
I always thought that when Patsy died a hat on the forums would disappear. But Jayelles still posts.
 
  • #25
Paradox said:
I always thought that when Patsy died a hat on the forums would disappear. But Jayelles still posts.
You thought I was Patsy? Wrong continent.
 
  • #26
Paradox said:
Spoken like a true non-student of the case. Some in the BPD wanted an arrest.


------->>>Not too often that someone insults me, but, different strokes for different folks.

I will give you Steve Thomas, now please furnish me with some REAL names, since you obviously have an inside track to your particular classroom study?

Obviously as well the 'some in the BPD who wanted an arrest'as you put it, did not have the PULL nor the CLOUT to carry it out for us NON STUDENTS.


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  • #27
  • #28
Paradox said:
I always thought that when Patsy died a hat on the forums would disappear. But Jayelles still posts.



Information for the not totally initiated posters, newer posters if you will, posters come and go, and RE REGISTER with NEW hats.

I personally have kept my OLDE hat for years here. I am the same person I have always been, given 5 months to live in 1999, triple by pass heart surgery then. A know all see all mother of 8 grown children, a two year widow, a crime sleuth for nearly 60 years, and I still have a pulse.

I love little children, babies, good people, good food. I admire some folks, and steer clear of people who are mean spirited. I believe 99.9 % of law enforcement people are honest and do a hard days work for what they earn.

I have two sons in law enforcement both have high ranks, I know they HAVE high morals, and high ideals and all should be very very glad IF they live near where my sons serve in their corner of OUR world.

JonBenet touched my heart DEEPLY. THERE is never enough innocence in OUR common world, we NEED MORE OF IT!!! BAD PEOPLE do BAD stuff, it is their apparent lot in life, something they can be born with, or else have it pounded into them by BAD parents or BAD circumstances, over which they had no control, or did not see the control they could have had.

Some folks have vision but cannot see. You don't have to be blind to NOT see.

GOOD people can also do BAD thingies, then lie about them to save face, money or whatever.

Perps are everywhere, Perps are people with a purpose (sounds like an Avis car commercial), it can be ALL of the posters on this forum. Some perps are good, some are BAD.

I see a perp on this forum, who has a purpose, but it is not murder. Perhaps a stuffed doll and some straight pins would give them more control.

Personally when I see a NEW poster online, I think to myself, depending on what words come from their keyboard, that they have re registered with a NEW hat to take jabs at someone they donut like, for whatever reason that MIGHT be.

I feel certain IF there is a murder perp present here, they just want us all to GO AWAY.

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  • #29
Well said!
Amy
 
  • #30
"You thought I was Patsy? Wrong continent."

Yeah, not even close!

"I have no reason to want the R's (any of them) to be guilty of this crime. In fact, I think it would be nice if the last thing little Jonbenet saw, before her life being snuffed out, wasn't a family member or friend of the family."

I think you'll find that no one WANTS the Rs to be guilty.

Camper, probable cause for an arrest was never a problem. The chief of police, the FBI, even some in the DA's office all said so.
 
  • #31
Awesome post Camper!!!!! God Bless you for the life you live, the 8 wonderful children you have raised (WOW), all you have been through with your health and losing your mate, and all the incredible wisdom you must have gained from your experiences.
 
  • #32
twinkiesmom said:
Re: the missing Christmas video...

Would that show some conflict within the family that day? Wasn't there some issue regarding a bike?

I do remember some issue with the bike. I can't remember exactly what it was, but there was something.

As for the video...didn't the R's say the battery was dead. I don't believe that for a moment. She managed to have the video up-and-running for every pagent, so why not Xmas?
 
  • #33
Camper said:
I feel certain IF there is a murder perp present here, they just want us all to GO AWAY.

You are so right. They want us to go away, and quit talking about this, so the case will fade into the woodwork. Hence, the problem will be solved.
 
  • #34
luvbeaches said:
I do remember some issue with the bike. I can't remember exactly what it was, but there was something.

As for the video...didn't the R's say the battery was dead. I don't believe that for a moment. She managed to have the video up-and-running for every pagent, so why not Xmas?
These things happen. I have video-taped every single school show that I have helped produce over the past 10 years yet on the last two Christmases I forgot to charge the video camera up and had to record with the camera plugged into mains electricity. I think I've just got so much else to think about at Christmas that thoughts of charging the video camera just don't cross my mind.

There's also the reason for recording. Pageants/school shows are more formal, more dressed up affairs. They run from start to finish and then they are gone forever. Christmas morning is more relaxed. You could almost go fetch the camera part-way through the present opening and still capture enough memories to watch later on. Also, the Ramseys were having Christmas all over again the next day at Charlevoix with other family members , so maybe they felt that would be the bit they'd want to record for that year?

Just musing.
 
  • #35
Perp on the forums? I don't believe Patsy Ramsey ever posted here. ;)
 
  • #36
Now we're cooking with gas so someones gotta get burnt! LOL - Patsy as Jay?! Not happening.......Although - you better believe that Patsy has pretended On-Line just as much as she pretended in Real Life.......she just couldn't pull off that fence-sitter act like Jay can!

Other than that.......I like your style, Paradox, I really like your style.

Question for all others - Is it just because Steve spoke out that he is thought of as the only person at the BPD that saw where the evidence led? If so, maybe it's time for a re-read of his book as he does give name after name of those that were also frustrated with the Ramseys Little Victory.
 
  • #37
I don't know about the perp on the forum and really there's no way to find out, so why bother thinking about it?

Are we somehow going to rat them out and bring them to justice?

I think that's a bit of wishful thinking.

People's hats are deceiving though, but only for a time, it doesn't take long to work out who's who if you have been around the forum's long enough.
 
  • #38
RiverRat said:
Question for all others - Is it just because Steve spoke out that he is thought of as the only person at the BPD that saw where the evidence led? If so, maybe it's time for a re-read of his book as he does give name after name of those that were also frustrated with the Ramseys Little Victory.


-->>>Well since the R's appeared on LKL with Steve, the entire viewing world watched as they stuck pins in him.

IF Ramseys early on had but brought along the major local network cameras and marched on City Hall, where the entire group of folk, who were perhaps better said, 'intimidated by the Ramsey money' rather than 'outwitted', they just might have scooted out from under their umbrella.

Dr. Lee said, even with 'probabal' cauze it would have been a battle of the 'expertz'. Waz nota DNA caze.

Although looking backwards, I do think they stood a good shot at a conviction.

We all cannot be right, but we all can have an opinion.

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  • #39
Jayelles said:
You thought I was Patsy? Wrong continent.
OK, now I'm waiting for Pam to die.
 
  • #40
RiverRat said:
Now we're cooking with gas so someones gotta get burnt! LOL - Patsy as Jay?! Not happening.......Although - you better believe that Patsy has pretended On-Line just as much as she pretended in Real Life.......she just couldn't pull off that fence-sitter act like Jay can!

Other than that.......I like your style, Paradox, I really like your style.

Question for all others - Is it just because Steve spoke out that he is thought of as the only person at the BPD that saw where the evidence led? If so, maybe it's time for a re-read of his book as he does give name after name of those that were also frustrated with the Ramseys Little Victory.
Now I'm worried.

The BPD handed the football to Hunter. He spiked it. Now too many people think the BPD never had the ball or knew how to play.
 

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