"personal hygeine" of JB

[Ames]

here's another from DOI,this is a stab at the White's,whom JR had previously said may have drugged JB at the party,pprback,p.8:

Priscilla made a small plate especially for JonBenet to make sure there would be some left for her to try.

I have posted the part of John's interview....either here, or on FFJ...where he says that he ASKED Priscilla to save some cracked crab out for JB. HE ASKED HER, she just didn't take it upon herself to do that. AND THEN..they made something out of it. I will certainly repost it, if you want me to. They acted like there was something sinister about it....I guess John had forgotten that he had said that he ASKED PRISCILLA to save it some out for JB, in his 98 interview. He is such an idiot...:slap:


Here ya go..

2 LOU SMIT: Very much so. I would like to

3 just know, perhaps, what you ate or whether the

4 children ate or if it was different or how things

5 were set up.

6 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, all I can specifically

7 remember was the cracked crab. I think they had a

8 turkey dinner. But I think she made, she always

9 makes these little hot dogs with barbecue sauce

10 that the kids love. I remember her specifically,

11 Priscilla coming over this big plate of cracked

12 plate making little plates, and I wanted to save

13 these out for JonBenet and she took them out and

14 put them in the plate.

15 LOU SMIT: What were they?

16 JOHN RAMSEY: I think it was the cracked

17 crab.

18 MIKE KANE: What is cracked crab? I'm from

19 the east. I don't know --

20 JOHN RAMSEY: She doesn't take all of it.

21 It's like pieces of crab that are cut up. They're

22 cold.

23 MIKE KANE: They're real crab?

24 JOHN RAMSEY: Yeah. They're boiled like.

25 They're already broken. They're like just chunks

0102

1 of, like somebody has already broken up the legs

2 and I guess it was like king crab that was

3 partially open.

4 MIKE KANE: Okay.

5 JOHN RAMSEY: But she specifically, I

6 just remember her making little plates going down

7 the line. Which, in retrospect, seems a little

8 strange.


And why did it seem strange JOHN?? You are the one that asked her to save it out for JB. Patsy said almost the EXACT same thing about the cracked crab. She said..."Looking back on it, it seems a little strange". Sounds a bit rehearsed to me....doesn't it you??

 

[DeeDee249]

It's sickening the way they pushed everyone they knew under the bus. With the Whites, who were obviously considered close enough friends to share Christmas dinner with, "invite" over the morning of the "kidnapping" AND send their son off to their home AFTER the supposed kidnapping of their daughter to keep him SAFE. (and quiet), it's especially awful. FW was there, in the basement, that morning. He's not a stupid man. He figured it out. So he had to go down.

 

[Ames]

It's sickening the way they pushed everyone they knew under the bus. With the Whites, who were obviously considered close enough friends to share Christmas dinner with, "invite" over the morning of the "kidnapping" AND send their son off to their home AFTER the supposed kidnapping of their daughter to keep him SAFE. (and quiet), it's especially awful. FW was there, in the basement, that morning. He's not a stupid man. He figured it out. So he had to go down.

EXACTLY!!!

 

[JMO8778]

I have posted the part of John's interview....either here, or on FFJ...where he says that he ASKED Priscilla to save some cracked crab out for JB. HE ASKED HER, she just didn't take it upon herself to do that. AND THEN..they made something out of it. I will certainly repost it, if you want me to. They acted like there was something sinister about it....I guess John had forgotten that he had said that he ASKED PRISCILLA to save it some out for JB, in his 98 interview. He is such an idiot...:slap:


Here ya go..

2 LOU SMIT: Very much so. I would like to

3 just know, perhaps, what you ate or whether the

4 children ate or if it was different or how things

5 were set up.

6 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, all I can specifically

7 remember was the cracked crab. I think they had a

8 turkey dinner. But I think she made, she always

9 makes these little hot dogs with barbecue sauce

10 that the kids love. I remember her specifically,

11 Priscilla coming over this big plate of cracked

12 plate making little plates, and I wanted to save

13 these out for JonBenet and she took them out and

14 put them in the plate.

15 LOU SMIT: What were they?

16 JOHN RAMSEY: I think it was the cracked

17 crab.

18 MIKE KANE: What is cracked crab? I'm from

19 the east. I don't know --

20 JOHN RAMSEY: She doesn't take all of it.

21 It's like pieces of crab that are cut up. They're

22 cold.

23 MIKE KANE: They're real crab?

24 JOHN RAMSEY: Yeah. They're boiled like.

25 They're already broken. They're like just chunks

0102

1 of, like somebody has already broken up the legs

2 and I guess it was like king crab that was

3 partially open.

4 MIKE KANE: Okay.

5 JOHN RAMSEY: But she specifically, I

6 just remember her making little plates going down

7 the line. Which, in retrospect, seems a little

8 strange.


And why did it seem strange JOHN?? You are the one that asked her to save it out for JB. Patsy said almost the EXACT same thing about the cracked crab. She said..."Looking back on it, it seems a little strange". Sounds a bit rehearsed to me....doesn't it you??

indeed it does ! it's 'strange' they even used the same word. why would it be strange to go down the line? what was she supposed to do,toss it at everyone? I mean really.I bet schumky Smit even bought that line,hook line and sinker.seems to me he goes fishing for stuff from the R's.(no pun intended,really).
thx for posting that.

 

[JMO8778]

2 LOU SMIT: Very much so. I would like to

3 just know, perhaps, what you ate or whether the

4 children ate or if it was different or how things

5 were set up.

yes,he goes fishing alright.he even leads JR right to the line.

 

[DeeDee249]

LS had it in his head the Rs were innocent because they were good Christians. (Hitler was a Christian, too).
He did more than go "fishing". He went deep sea diving!

 

[JMO8778]

LS had it in his head the Rs were innocent because they were good Christians. (Hitler was a Christian, too).
He did more than go "fishing". He went deep sea diving!

my mom is the same way about the Blanche Taylor Moore case here.she is so naive.they had to dig up every man Moore ever had in her life b/c she arsenic poisoned all of them.(except the last one,her minister husb., he lived).look that one up if you aren't familiar with it.there was a movie made about it..I think it was called The Black Widow Murders.

 

[Ames]

indeed it does ! it's 'strange' they even used the same word. why would it be strange to go down the line? what was she supposed to do,toss it at everyone? I mean really.I bet schumky Smit even bought that line,hook line and sinker.seems to me he goes fishing for stuff from the R's.(no pun intended,really).
thx for posting that.

You are welcome! I thought it was quite "odd" that Patsy said the same thing, almost word for word. She didn't say that she thought it was weird or odd, or unusual....she used the same word that John used..."strange". EVEN THOUGH JOHN asked Priscilla to save some cracked crab out for JB, he thought that it was strange that she did so. That is what is strange...not the fact that she made JB a place AFTER JOHN asked her to do it. They try to insinuate that Priscilla may have fixed JB a "SPECIAL" plate, one laced with drug or something, and they found it ODD that they had save some out for JB. WELL....Priscilla was making little plates for all the kids...with the little hot dog weenies and barbeque sauce, and John ASKED Priscilla if she would put some crack crab on JB's plate, and so she did. What is so strange about that, JOHN???

 

[Ames]

LS had it in his head the Rs were innocent because they were good Christians. (Hitler was a Christian, too).
He did more than go "fishing". He went deep sea diving!

Christians make mistakes too, they are far from perfect. Just because they might be Christian...(I might add, that when John was asked by an interviewer, who happened to be an ordained Minister, what his favorite passage of the bible was, John had no clue. Also, when he was being interviewed, the minister was telling a story of two people in the Bible...I had heard of them before, and read the story, but, I can't remember who it was...and John had NO CLUE who he was talking about, it doesn't mean that they are prone to anger or "snapping"...or "gong of the deep end". SOME CHRISTIAN...John can't even quote his favorite verse in the bible, and had no clue who the minister was talking about, when he was talking about 2 people in the bible.

 

[JMO8778]

church seemed to be all in the package of appearances for him,it seems...trophy wife,go to the right church,pick the right friends,etc.
I think I recall something about a reason why they picked that church..the ppl that go there or something.

 

[BOESP]

Christians make mistakes too, they are far from perfect. Just because they might be Christian...(I might add, that when John was asked by an interviewer, who happened to be an ordained Minister, what his favorite passage of the bible was, John had no clue. Also, when he was being interviewed, the minister was telling a story of two people in the Bible...I had heard of them before, and read the story, but, I can't remember who it was...and John had NO CLUE who he was talking about, it doesn't mean that they are prone to anger or "snapping"...or "gong of the deep end". SOME CHRISTIAN...John can't even quote his favorite verse in the bible, and had no clue who the minister was talking about, when he was talking about 2 people in the bible.

The LKL show with Steve Thomas and the Ramseys touched on John's lack of knowledge as well. It concerned asking for forgiveness versus being forgiven without asking for it. The video is on Youtube. Det. Thomas seemed truly flabbergasted at John's lack of knowledge yet John having the nerve to try and pass off an obvious error in Christian teaching (i.e. one doesn't have to repent to be forgiven, or words to that effect).

 

[Ames]

The LKL show with Steve Thomas and the Ramseys touched on John's lack of knowledge as well. It concerned asking for forgiveness versus being forgiven without asking for it. The video is on Youtube. Det. Thomas seemed truly flabbergasted at John's lack of knowledge yet John having the nerve to try and pass off an obvious error in Christian teaching (i.e. one doesn't have to repent to be forgiven, or words to that effect).

Is that what he said?? One doesn't HAVE to repent to be forgiven?? Well, that is wrong, wrong, wrong....yes you DO have to repent, and ask forgiveness. You are not automatically forgiven....or else Jesus, when dying on the cross, and speaking of the ones that put him there, wouldn't have had to say.."Father, forgive them...for they know not what they do". OR...when you pray, it wouldn't be necessary to say.."I am sorry, please forgive me of my sins"...if you don't repent, then you are not sorry, and you just turn around and do the same thing over and over again. Repenting means you are sorry for what you did, and that you will TRY to not do it anymore, and its not automatic. Some religions believe different things...but, being a Christian, and being the denomination that John and Patsy was, he should have known better.

 

[Solace]

Is that what he said?? One doesn't HAVE to repent to be forgiven?? Well, that is wrong, wrong, wrong....yes you DO have to repent, and ask forgiveness. You are not automatically forgiven....or else Jesus, when dying on the cross, and speaking of the ones that put him there, wouldn't have had to say.."Father, forgive them...for they know not what they do". OR...when you pray, it wouldn't be necessary to say.."I am sorry, please forgive me of my sins"...if you don't repent, then you are not sorry, and you just turn around and do the same thing over and over again. Repenting means you are sorry for what you did, and that you will TRY to not do it anymore, and its not automatic. Some religions believe different things...but, being a Christian, and being the denomination that John and Patsy was, he should have known better.

Yes, Steve Thomas says at one point well the Bible says that in order to be forgiven, one has to say they are sorry. And John lashes out and says "It doesn't say that". Steve replies "It doesn't"?

 

[BOESP]

Is that what he said?? One doesn't HAVE to repent to be forgiven?? Well, that is wrong, wrong, wrong....yes you DO have to repent, and ask forgiveness. You are not automatically forgiven....or else Jesus, when dying on the cross, and speaking of the ones that put him there, wouldn't have had to say.."Father, forgive them...for they know not what they do". OR...when you pray, it wouldn't be necessary to say.."I am sorry, please forgive me of my sins"...if you don't repent, then you are not sorry, and you just turn around and do the same thing over and over again. Repenting means you are sorry for what you did, and that you will TRY to not do it anymore, and its not automatic. Some religions believe different things...but, being a Christian, and being the denomination that John and Patsy was, he should have known better.

John Ramsey said pretty much that - watch the video if you haven't already. When Ramsey finishes his spiel, Thomas seems truly surprised to be hearing John Ramsey make his statement about Ramsey's perception of Christian forgiveness.

As you said, it may not be right for other religions but for a professing Christian not to believe the sinner must ask for forgiveness is either very bold or else blatantly ignorant of the tenets of Christianity.

 

[BOESP]

yes,he goes fishing alright.he even leads JR right to the line.

And drops the bait in his mouth.

 

[BOESP]

Yes, Steve Thomas says at one point well the Bible says that in order to be forgiven, one has to say they are sorry. And John lashes out and says "It doesn't say that". Steve replies "It doesn't"?

Thanks, Sol. You done good. :clap:

 

[Ames]

John Ramsey said pretty much that - watch the video if you haven't already. When Ramsey finishes his spiel, Thomas seems truly surprised to be hearing John Ramsey make his statement about Ramsey's perception of Christian forgiveness.

As you said, it may not be right for other religions but for a professing Christian not to believe the sinner must ask for forgiveness is either very bold or else blatantly ignorant of the tenets of Christianity.

I actually saw the show, but, it was a long time ago, and I can't remember what was said. John is not the Christian man that he claims to be. I think he is a fake...or rather...a FLAKE...and he is also a :liar:

 

[Ames]

Yes, Steve Thomas says at one point well the Bible says that in order to be forgiven, one has to say they are sorry. And John lashes out and says "It doesn't say that". Steve replies "It doesn't"?

It seems like I do remember that part, now. I watched the show, but can't remember what was said. That part is standing out in my mind, now that you have refreshed my memory. John is an idiot....he just tries to be all Christian sounding, so that people will not suspect him of his daughter's death. "WELL....he is a CHRISTIAN, he couldn't have possibly had a part in his daughter's death, because....WELL....he goes to church and everyting, and WELL....he is a good guy." BULL HOCKEY!!!!!

 

[JMO8778]

It seems like I do remember that part, now. I watched the show, but can't remember what was said. That part is standing out in my mind, now that you have refreshed my memory. John is an idiot....he just tries to be all Christian sounding, so that people will not suspect him of his daughter's death. "WELL....he is a CHRISTIAN, he couldn't have possibly had a part in his daughter's death, because....WELL....he goes to church and everyting, and WELL....he is a good guy." BULL HOCKEY!!!!!

..and the bible says 'you shall know them by the fruit of their spirit'.his rotted.

 

[JMO8778]

does he really think he can betray JB publicly,never repent and (possibly?) privately confess and all will be well in the Land of Oz?? if that is the case, then he's making up his own rules,and God won't follow those.