Photo Images inside Garrido Home

  • #61
I see your point. In the first set of pictures, it looks like the first was taken after much of what was inside was removed. However, I would hardly say LE was trashing the place. That place was already trashed. Surely LE didn't put a monstrous stack of dirty dishes in the sink and on the counters, or fill the house and yard with all that crap. All that stuff came from their home and the property simply doesn't look like it could reasonably contain it all. Again, they did not conduct a raid. Nevertheless, in viewing your comparison photos, it does seem that the later taken set do not relfect reality as much as the first. Good catch.

Well, if you look at the dishes and pots in the sink, there don't seem to be many (or any) that were dirty. I think LE just went through the cupboards looking for evidence and piled everything in them on the nearest convienent surface, which in this case was the sink.
 
  • #62
Looking at those pictures reminds me of that show on A&E called the "Hoarders". If you're interested you can watch the show online at the A&E website. (Hopefully my post isn't too far off topic)
Oh, and personally, I don't think any outside person has ever been in that house before including the Parole office. But, did you notice that the water heater looked fairly new? I wonder if someone installed that, or if PG did that?
 
  • #63
I think that he looks like he's holding a child as well. Back to my original question, did these animals get a chance to "clean up" before parole visits. How many visits (on the premises) were ever conducted? Does anyone really believe that we will be told?


OHHHH...I know. I know!


Nah. I doubt we'll ever know.

Everyone is now covering everyone else's butt. BIG TIME.

MOO

Ahem....maybe that was cleaned up....?
 
  • #64
also the photos of the bricks/patchs on the ground that looked out of place...and they looked to have straw underneath them as well.....

right before that there was a pic with a pipe sticking out of the ground next to the bricks and a shed....like it was venting from under the ground??

The nature and purpose of the photos is to document unsafe conditions so the county can make an assessment for condemning the building - thus, the many close-up pictures of exposed wiring, pips sticking out from underground and out of buildings, broken boards in the shacks and decks, the cesspool cover, The outdoor commode, etc.

The before pictures from that british photographer who snuck onto the property that first day show the living conditions of a group of feral hoarders, but with some open spaces neatly arranged (and, how much of the stuff strewn about even that first day was from LE's initial search). The after pictures show a landfill as every storage facility was cleared out into the open.
 
  • #65
In the photo of the kitchen sink, you will note that there is a hand sanitizer dispenser on the cupboard that is hanging on the left hand side of the sink.

These people lived like pigs, yet they had hand sanitizer in that dump?

God bless Jaycee and her two daughters. I pray most fervently that they are able to overcome the atrocities to which they have been subjected, and of which I just cannot begin to fathom.

Haha if i lived there id want to be covered in hand sanitizer
 
  • #66
Well, if you look at the dishes and pots in the sink, there don't seem to be many (or any) that were dirty. I think LE just went through the cupboards looking for evidence and piled everything in them on the nearest convienent surface, which in this case was the sink.

Or they didnt cook, The way the backyard looked its not a stretch to think the house looked this bad. I dont think the house was all tidy and the police did the messes for a sec.
 
  • #67
Look at this . . . a child's (?) drawing on the wall which says Angell - although I can't see the n and it appears that it's the name Angel but misspelled with two L's. It might not be a drawing, it might be embroidery with yarn?? or something that's raised from the surface of the paper


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From HERE: http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//090918/480/8b828fe077d14f0f8b1cd5cad0b174e7/
 
  • #68
I personally noticed the "commercial hand washing liquid dispenser" mounted on the cabinet next to the sink FILLED with nasty dirty dishes.

they were obviously hoarders as well as just plain pigs. From the looks of the house - I'm willing to say they ALL slept out back in the tents - there was NO ROOM for even one body to lay down in that house.

Do you have a photo of the dirty dishes? Maybe I'm blind but I dont see any dirty dishes in the sink. Also, no silverware in the sink leads me to believe the dishes were just tossed there during the search.

I think the entire house was turned upside down by detectives before these photos were taken.
 
  • #69
no way...that is not the way a search would happen. not in that house. And there is no way the police could create such a convoluted disgusting mess.

this house was completely un civilised, looks like Garrido was just a parasite and all of those furnishings probably belonged to his mother.

they were living like wild animals and that molino chick is a liar.
 
  • #70
I wonder who this is...


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Haven't read the full thread, so don't know if this has been answered, but that photo is of Phillip and Nancy. It's showed up here elsewhere in one of the threads but I am unsure which one.

hth
 
  • #71
Growing up in the hippie culture in southern california, I frequently saw scenes similar to these, with papers strewn around, dishes piled in the sink, random stuff piled onto dining room tables, etc.

Some comments about specific rooms (From this link, where most of the interior shots were taken):

http://www.kcra.com/slideshow/news/20972906/detail.html

Photo 14 - typical of an unkempt house
Photo 15 - also typical. It appears that a computer projector is set up to display on the upraised screen.
Photo 17 - piles of stuff stacked on a table are typical. I wonder about the piles of stuff on the floor, though. Again, not inconsistent with what I've seen before.
Photo 18 & 19 - piles of dishes. I've seen this many times, but another contributor did note that most of the dishes don't appear to be used. I've actually seen situations where uneaten food and even mold was present. Odd that that doesn't be the case here.
Photo 20 - cat food supplies and overall mess I've seen before. A chair on TOP of the mess, with stuff on TOP of the chair, I haven't. This suggests that someone moved the chair here because they were searching elsewhere. All the cupboards opened is a tell for LE searches.
Photo 21 - not inconsistent with an unkempt house.
Photo 24 - I've even seen things this messy, but the chair thrown on top of the mess is out of place.
Photo 25 - unkempt, but livable.
Photo 26 & 27 - mattresses thrown about and piles of stuff are out of place for a living space. This doesn't even fit the profile of a storage room - with upended matresses. The mattress appears to be new. A mess that evolves over time has to have SOME form to it, as things are piled into a room over time - a mess created in a short amount of time doesn't have any recognizable form. This screams 'police search' to me.
Photo 28 & 29 - there the bathroom is made unusable by debris and boxes on the floor. This was not done by anyone that uses this bathroom. Again, no form to the mess.
Photo 30 - mess on the floor looks 'lived in'. Piles of clothes and chair on top of the bed look like the results of a search.
Photo 31 & 32 - bags and boxes making another bathroom unusable. This also appears to be the results of a search.
Photo 34 - unkempt houses typically have some organization - Messes that evolve show purpose... papers and books stacked and organized, pathways for getting around the mess, etc. Here everything is thrown around and piled on otherwise usable furniture.
Photo 35 - another chair upended on a loveseat. Tell for a search.
 
  • #72
Do you have a photo of the dirty dishes? Maybe I'm blind but I dont see any dirty dishes in the sink. Also, no silverware in the sink leads me to believe the dishes were just tossed there during the search.

I think the entire house was turned upside down by detectives before these photos were taken.

Here's one of the photos of the sink/dishes.

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  • #73
Here's one of the photos of the sink/dishes.

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Just jumping off your post with the sink picture. Ok, so.. it is possible the dishes were just placed in the sink during LE search. From everything I've seen of their home it looks to me like they lived in squalor. Notice the panel with the stove top controls? I know LE didn't cover that in grease and grime.

Jaycee and her children lived with this everyday of their lives. These people could have cared less about the appearance of their backyard, they sure as heck aren't going to keep it spic and span indoors, either. JMO.
 
  • #74
typical of the hippie culture? hardly...more like the homeless culture, or junkie culture...I knew lots of hippies...nothing even close to this filth.
 
  • #75
Either the parole officers have not visited the actual home in several years or they did and failed to follow procedure, since it's absurdly clear that those are illegal "living" conditions. Either way, they failed horribly in simply following basic procedure. That's what's so upsetting about this case: if they had simply done a basic job (not even "great," just basic), this case would have been resolved ages ago.

I'm guessing that since the DA has already praised the PO, there will be no legitimate investigation into the massive, systemic failures, let alone holding the several 🤬🤬🤬 and those in charge accountable for their obvious refusal to do their job. It'd be like refusing to do anything about a lifeguard who simply let people drown right in front of him.

Honestly, when that Contra Costa sheriff said he, in response to the Dugard case, learned the valuable lesson to not assume a parolee is telling the truth, I nearly spit out my drink. How stupid does he think we are? Who the hell assumes a convicted sex offender is going to be open and honest with someone, let alone his PO, when it comes to possible criminality?!
 
  • #76
These are the two links to pictures obtained from the county inspector's office from KCRA-3:

http://www.kcra.com/slideshow/news/20972701/detail.html

http://www.kcra.com/slideshow/news/20972906/detail.html

Now, compare image 26 from the first link to this picture:

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And image 1 from the second link to this picture:

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It's clear that LE is trashing the place looking for evidence.

looks like they're just redistributing the trash around...i will give that it was a little more organized in it's disgusting-ness before LE came in. thanks for the comparisons!
 
  • #77
Either the parole officers have not visited the actual home in several years or they did and failed to follow procedure, since it's absurdly clear that those are illegal "living" conditions. Either way, they failed horribly in simply following basic procedure. That's what's so upsetting about this case: if they had simply done a basic job (not even "great," just basic), this case would have been resolved ages ago.

There was a task force search in 2008, and probably individual PO visits inbetween. Allthough i'm sure it was "poor", I doubt the house looked like these pictures then.
 
  • #78
Having been a home health nurse in CA in the past, I can truthfully say that some people keep their homes cluttered and dirty. There were several times I wouldn't sit on furniture and would NEVER accept a drink or the offer to use their bathroom.

These people did not have children in their homes, or elderly people they were caring for. I would often call adult protective services, as the condition of their home was unsafe. I find it hard to believe that it was always this bad at this home. Customers remarked that when they went to the home they saw Jaycee come out of one of the bedrooms with their printed materials. People who know PG's mother stated Nancy took good care of her. I would think they would have seen such a filthy mess. I also would think that her other son would have reported the condition of the home.

I am sure the place has always been cluttered and messy, but I also have a feeling that it has declined significantly in the past year or two as PG got more ill. As far as the kitchen, it looks as if "clean" dishes have been tossed onto dirty dishes. Makes my skin crawl.
 
  • #79
I posted yesterday about our family's experience with a "hoarder"--our grandchild's other grandmother. I think the jury is still out on whether LE trashed the kitchen counter and the stove or it looked that way when they went in. I just want to add that this is EXACTLY the way the kitchen looks at our grandchild's other house all the time.

Not long ago, a CD player placed on one of the electric stove burners caught on fire and filled the house with acrid smoke. The stove top was literally covered with junk!! Photos of this mess were presented to the court at our grandchild's custody hearing (our daughter got full custody BTW) and the judge was appalled.

There were literally five foot high walls of junk with a narrow pathway through them. the kitchen was so trashed, the grandparents had to bring in prepared food or take our grandchild out to fast food every time she visited. Oddly enough, this house is in a very nice neighborhood with well-kept homes and the couple themselves just seem a little "off". The husband has a normal job and just seems to ignore the mess his wife has created. Their three children were always ashamed of it so they never had friends over. Every time they've attempted to clean it up, the mother wastes no time in trashing it again. The family drives nice vehicles and dress neatly. They actually run a wedding planning business out of this mess. I would never have believed this sort of situation could exist if I hadn't seen it myself.

The straw that broke the camel's back, though, was the nasty swimming pool which brought in Vector Control. Then, the city got involved and held a hearing. Numerous neighbors showed up to testify that the mess was affecting their property values. The family ended up with the city contracting to have the exterior cleaned up and a lien of $4000 was placed on the property to cover the cost. My grandchild confirms that the interior still looks just like the Garridos'. It breaks my heart that Jaycee probably tried valiantly to bring some order to this chaos. It would have been an uphill battle, however.

My point is that, sadly, I can imagine the house interior looking just like this albeit with a few added messes due to the search. Someone at this house is undoubtedly a hoarder. If you research this mental illness, you will find that it is often co-morbid with other disorders. I find this very disturbing. It's very true that often the hoarding reflects a disorganized mind.
 
  • #80
For a good overview of Compulsive Hoarding Disorder, check out this link:

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsive_hoarding[/ame]

The photos tell the whole story.
 

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