Photo Images inside Garrido Home

[my2sisters]

For a good overview of Compulsive Hoarding Disorder, check out this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsive_hoarding

The photos tell the whole story.

You're right, they look like they could have been taken at Garrido's house! Thanks.

 

[JulieNMM]

Looking at those pictures reminds me of that show on A&E called the "Hoarders". If you're interested you can watch the show online at the A&E website. (Hopefully my post isn't too far off topic)
Oh, and personally, I don't think any outside person has ever been in that house before including the Parole office. But, did you notice that the water heater looked fairly new? I wonder if someone installed that, or if PG did that?

I was also thinking about the show Hoarders.

I thought that the mother was living with them until their arrest and then the police moved her to a nursing home since there was no one else to take care of her. Can't remember where I heard that. I could be wrong!

Did anyone else notice the painting above the sofa? It is of a blond woman -- JC?

 

[Missizzy]

I'm going out on a limb here and posting a link to the abatement violation photos of our grandchild's other grandparents. Because these are readily available on the internet, I don't think I am breaking any confidentiality rules. Moderators, if I am, please remove this. Please please understand that I am not attempting to misalign this family. I'm not asking that anyone read through all the letters, or even note the location, etc. but scroll to the very bottom of the PDF and study the photos. Keep in mind that these photos were taken (by city officials) after an attempt had been made by the family to clean up the property. The hoarder argued with the Code Enforcer that the property was now "fine". This, to my mind, shows the true depth of denial.

I hadn't looked at these photos in a while but when I did, I was shaken. Notice the tents? I'd forgotten how many tents this family had erected. It looks exactly like the Garrido yard. This is where our young grandchild used to spend every weekend. Not anymore!!

It seems to me that this disorder is commonly exhibited in the exact same ways. In other words, the tents and junk at the Garridos might not have been intended to hide Jaycee. They might have simply been a result of the resident hoarder's disability. The massive junk hid a terrible secret in Jaycee's case however.

http://www.ci.medford.or.us/Files/1-9-09 Agenda.pdf

 

[flourish]

I am thinking that by the time these pictures of the inside of the house were taken, there had been at least one round of detectives and fbi folks inside carrying out their search warrants, so I am not convinced that the pictures we see of the inside are how they lived in there on a day to day basis. They may not have been super tidy, but these are just a bit too extreme.
If you have ever seen or heard of the results after a police search of a home, they can really mess things up in their zeal to find 'evidence'.

I think the outside is a whole other thing. He obviously never threw anything away. I have neighbors that seem to save all the cars they have ever owned. I don't think they have kidnapped anyone though.

bbm, most respectfully
Totally. In photos we saw previously, the trampoline only had the teddy bear on it. Then in these photos, the trampoline has a ton of wood and debris on it, like they (LE) had put boards on it as they searched through the rubble. Does anyone know, where those photos we saw previously zoomed versions of satellite photos from not so recently, or were those taken right after this all came to light? Even so, it's freaking nasty in a way which LE probably couldn't have made much worse.:waitasec: gross

There is some nice furniture and furnishings under all that mess, which makes me feel bitter and resentful and angry from several different perspectives. Blech! I think Websleuths members have probably invested in more anti-nausea medication in the last week than ever before. uke:

 

[SunnieRN]

I'm going out on a limb here and posting a link to the abatement violation photos of our grandchild's other grandparents. Because these are readily available on the internet, I don't think I am breaking any confidentiality rules. Moderators, if I am, please remove this. Please please understand that I am not attempting to misalign this family. I'm not asking that anyone read through all the letters, or even note the location, etc. but scroll to the very bottom of the PDF and study the photos. Keep in mind that these photos were taken (by city officials) after an attempt had been made by the family to clean up the property. The hoarder argued with the Code Enforcer that the property was now "fine". This, to my mind, shows the true depth of denial.

I hadn't looked at these photos in a while but when I did, I was shaken. Notice the tents? I'd forgotten how many tents this family had erected. It looks exactly like the Garrido yard. This is where our young grandchild used to spend every weekend. Not anymore!!

It seems to me that this disorder is commonly exhibited in the exact same ways. In other words, the tents and junk at the Garridos might not have been intended to hide Jaycee. They might have simply been a result of the resident hoarder's disability. The massive junk hid a terrible secret in Jaycee's case however.

http://www.ci.medford.or.us/Files/1-9-09 Agenda.pdf

My gosh, I am so sorry your family and your grandson have had to go through all of this! I hope that this woman is able to get help for such an overwhelming disorder.

 

[JulieNMM]

Here's one of the photos of the sink/dishes.

I've been reading these posts and notice that there are no doors on some of the cabinets. The dishes are in the sink, but it does not look like they were put there by LE. I mean, if someone came into my kitchen and was looking through the cupboards, they would have a neat stack of dishes to take out and they would put them as a stack on the counter. This is not a case of LE coming in and making a mess out of this house. It was already a mess (I'm sure). And what's with the bricks on the walls?

 

[LinasK]

I vaguely recall that she was at a doctor's office, or in the hospital, or something at the time of the arrest. I think PG's brother stated that she's living with him now. Again, I'm vague on this.

She was taken to Contra Costa Regional Medical Center at the time of arrest. Where she went from there I don't know.

 

[joga]

I'm going out on a limb here and posting a link to the abatement violation photos of our grandchild's other grandparents. Because these are readily available on the internet, I don't think I am breaking any confidentiality rules. Moderators, if I am, please remove this. Please please understand that I am not attempting to misalign this family. I'm not asking that anyone read through all the letters, or even note the location, etc. but scroll to the very bottom of the PDF and study the photos. Keep in mind that these photos were taken (by city officials) after an attempt had been made by the family to clean up the property. The hoarder argued with the Code Enforcer that the property was now "fine". This, to my mind, shows the true depth of denial.

I hadn't looked at these photos in a while but when I did, I was shaken. Notice the tents? I'd forgotten how many tents this family had erected. It looks exactly like the Garrido yard. This is where our young grandchild used to spend every weekend. Not anymore!!

It seems to me that this disorder is commonly exhibited in the exact same ways. In other words, the tents and junk at the Garridos might not have been intended to hide Jaycee. They might have simply been a result of the resident hoarder's disability. The massive junk hid a terrible secret in Jaycee's case however.

http://www.ci.medford.or.us/Files/1-9-09 Agenda.pdf

WOW! that was an absolutely dangerous place for your grandson and i applaud you for looking out for and getting him/her out of that situation. that is scary if that's what consider "fine".....

 

[LinasK]

Having been a home health nurse in CA in the past, I can truthfully say that some people keep their homes cluttered and dirty. There were several times I wouldn't sit on furniture and would NEVER accept a drink or the offer to use their bathroom.

These people did not have children in their homes, or elderly people they were caring for. I would often call adult protective services, as the condition of their home was unsafe. I find it hard to believe that it was always this bad at this home. Customers remarked that when they went to the home they saw Jaycee come out of one of the bedrooms with their printed materials. People who know PG's mother stated Nancy took good care of her. I would think they would have seen such a filthy mess. I also would think that her other son would have reported the condition of the home.

I am sure the place has always been cluttered and messy, but I also have a feeling that it has declined significantly in the past year or two as PG got more ill. As far as the kitchen, it looks as if "clean" dishes have been tossed onto dirty dishes. Makes my skin crawl.

Sunnie, I've also been a home health therapist. I don't think a home health agency was ever in this house! I think Nancy- with CNA experience- was just taking care of her mother-in-law, paid or not as she knew to do! I totally agree that anybody who had come out from a home health agency would have called APS under these conditions! I really don't believe LE messed the house up this bad- I have seen residences this bad-I think this is how the Garrido's lived undetected!

 

[MBK]

I've been reading these posts and notice that there are no doors on some of the cabinets. The dishes are in the sink, but it does not look like they were put there by LE. I mean, if someone came into my kitchen and was looking through the cupboards, they would have a neat stack of dishes to take out and they would put them as a stack on the counter. This is not a case of LE coming in and making a mess out of this house. It was already a mess (I'm sure). And what's with the bricks on the walls?

I'd say the house is of its period. Those could be bricks, could be tile that looks like it, but as the kitchen has not been renovated, it's pretty much that retro style. LOL. (Same goes for the turned white wooden posts, sort of room dividers that you see in other photos.)

 

[Missizzy]

I wondered about the tile also. Those are called subway tiles and have been very popular in the last ten years (we're home builders), mostly in upscale kitchens or remodels. They are really expensive, though, and these look to be professionally installed. It's possible that this is some sort of back splash made to look like subway tiles but I don't think so. I'm not certain but it looks like there is an accent of "quarter-round" (long, skinny tiles) under the window. If it is, then it's definitely real tile. Maybe Home Depot sells that.

If it's true subway tile, it would not have been original to this house IMO. Houses built in the 30's-50's used square tiles almost exclusively. Subway tiles were popular for home use from about 1910-1930 and often used in conjunction with hex tile. They were an off-shoot of the "sanitary" look. As their name implies, they were original to subway walls. Martha Stewart is somewhat responsible for their popularity right now (history lesson over...I do the research for period appropriate remodels, sorry). The cabinets, though, look original. Just another mystery. Did PG actually spend all the time and money to lay this tile or did an installer come in and do it? Could there have been a barter? Let's hope we don't go there.

 

[flourish]

There is a great book called "Ghosty Men" about two famous hoarding brothers and the filth that led to their demise. Even they had paths!

 

[songline]

HOW CAN ANYONE LIVE THIS WAY?
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/32910844#32910844

Wherever Jaycee and her kids are now, must seem like a castle. How they lived is just horrific. :crazy:

 

[my2sisters]

Posted in [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4174941&postcount=329"]Media Link[/ame]s by Angel Who Cares: Authorities have also released the first photos from inside the Garrido home. Blackstone says they "gave another glimpse into life there -- "a mess" that "could show a household in disarray -- or the way a place looks after a police search. CBS News spoke with a private detective who was in the house before the Garridos were arrested who says it wasn't in disarray.

This answered one of the questions we all had. And (IMO) it shows the disrespect local LE has had for this case! I'm so glad other jurisdictions are now involved and it wasn't all left up to Contra Costa County LE.

 

[Billylee]

Those bricks look like a product called Z-brick, which is a thin brick like product you put up like tile and made to look like brick. Then painted white. They were popular in the
70's. That's my guess.

 

[Pink Panther]

Posted in Media Links by Angel Who Cares: Authorities have also released the first photos from inside the Garrido home. Blackstone says they "gave another glimpse into life there -- "a mess" that "could show a household in disarray -- or the way a place looks after a police search. CBS News spoke with a private detective who was in the house before the Garridos were arrested who says it wasn't in disarray.

This answered one of the questions we all had. And (IMO) it shows the disrespect local LE has had for this case! I'm so glad other jurisdictions are now involved and it wasn't all left up to Contra Costa County LE.

I hope that that LE gets their act together and pulls in some PR assistance. If not, they really are risking to be seen as the amateurs that so far, they appear to be! Was the place in such disarray or were these pics released after the first warrant/inspection? Not such a complicated issue to address and certainly doesn't touch on issues that affect JC's family privacy.

ticktock...ticktock...

As usual, rest assured, we will get NO INFORMATION because everyone is scrambling to cover their butts!

MOO

 

[Billylee]

After looking at the picutres of the condition of this place (and I do believe it's probably been somewhat messed up by the searches, i.e. chairs overturned etc.,), but especially the back yard, where in the heck was Child Protective Services?.... not for just a season or two.......but, all these years? The neighbors reported problems and hearing children, good grief, where was CPS? Even if he hadn't been a convicted rapist on parole, didn't anyone care why these children weren't going to school? Or were playing in that dump of a backyard? Geeze! It's just unbelievable, the lack of concern from everyone who SHOULD have cared and bothered to show some concern!

 

[Pink Panther]

I've been reading these posts and notice that there are no doors on some of the cabinets. The dishes are in the sink, but it does not look like they were put there by LE. I mean, if someone came into my kitchen and was looking through the cupboards, they would have a neat stack of dishes to take out and they would put them as a stack on the counter. This is not a case of LE coming in and making a mess out of this house. It was already a mess (I'm sure). And what's with the bricks on the walls?

Based on the pictures that have been released so far, I don't understand how they managed to cook, go to the bathroom/shower, or sleep. Was it THAT BAD??? Were the pics taken after the initial search? If they were taken after the initial search, what kind of a friggin' search was that? How could they even see the forrest through the trees? If they were taken after the initial search, I am so thankful that other agencies have been stepping in because that is really appalling! If they were taken before the search, the PO should be made to go and explain what the fric he was doing for however many years he was being paid to do it!

MOO

 

[my2sisters]

After looking at the picutres of the condition of this place (and I do believe it's probably been somewhat messed up by the searches, i.e. chairs overturned etc.,), but especially the back yard, where in the heck was Child Protective Services?.... not for just a season or two.......but, all these years? The neighbors reported problems and hearing children, good grief, where was CPS? Even if he hadn't been a convicted rapist on parole, didn't anyone care why these children weren't going to school? Or were playing in that dump of a backyard? Geeze! It's just unbelievable, the lack of concern from everyone who SHOULD have cared and bothered to show some concern!

You made me think about how bad it would have been during the rainy, cold winter months. The soil is mostly sand, but it still gets muddy.

The other thing is that most of those trees would have lost their leaves and made the yard much more visible.

 

[smgtheophilus]

typical of the hippie culture? hardly...more like the homeless culture, or junkie culture...I knew lots of hippies...nothing even close to this filth.

There were frequent crossings of all of these cultures - at least, in southern CA, and for the poorer hippies. I'm not counting the affluent hippies that settled in Topanga Canyon of course.