Pictures of the Karr Family Christmas of 1996 Have Been Found

[Chrishope]

I'm from Michigan but I've never run accross the Ramseys at their vacation home.

 

[MistyM]

this is too surreal. the suspects says he's guilty and the family are trying to prove him innocent. unreal. he's completely delusional in my mind.

he needs psychiatric help BAD. i wonder if they put him on medication, he wouldn't change his mind.

 

[Love_Mama]

One point of view is that the BPD botched things up so bad they day of the 26th that the Ramseys had to get lawyers immediately and couldn't cooperate except on their lawyers terms.

It's always best not to talk to the police until you have a lawyer.

Crishope..........I couldn't agree more as I stated. IF you had the money then the first think you'd do is get Attorneys. Listen........I had the same kind of husband as Pasty did. Made lots of money, knew all the right people EXCEPT.........he wasn't molesting my daughers! BUT, the Ramseys.........hid from everyone. They lied, they said all the wrong things.........they never cooporated with the police. They left town very quickly. THere is NO WAY on earth that anyone broke into their house.
NO WAY! SO.............if and I say if, they can find anything important with this NEW suspect......it will definitely be connected with the Ramseys..........However. I think that this John Karr.......is nothing more than a nut case just trying to get a Sex change in Thailand .........also know as the SEX Capital of the world!
xxxxxxxxxxxxxoooooooooooo
Mama

 

[BillyGoatGruff]

(I’m going to post this again from post 115)


I read somewhere that JMK was an original suspect until the wife claimed he was with her that Christmas morning.

Has anyone confirmed the first time she provided this alibi?

Also, her giving pics to the police without him there is leaving the door open for her own defense, not providing an alibi.

NO he WASN'T an "original suspect".
No one even knew who this noodle knob was until last week, including LE.

 

[sassy_texasbelle2]

NO he WASN'T an "original suspect".
No one even knew who this noodle knob was until last week, including LE.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: on noodle knob

 

[BillyGoatGruff]

And maybe they have one. We don't know what CO has on this guy.

Yep, we don't know because they don't know, because they didn't bother investigating Karr before arresting him.

http://www.crimerant.com/?p=129

 

[cricket]

NO he WASN'T an "original suspect".
No one even knew who this noodle knob was until last week, including LE.

I don't have a link, but I read an article in a California newspaper article that quoted his defense attorney (on the changes) and she said that someone in LE had told her that Karr was being looked at for the JBR murder.

 

[tybee204]

""Lara would run up into Rocky Grove cemetery at night and hide from him," she said. "Other times she'd come over to my house crying. She'd bring some cookies or fudge, but would be afraid to eat them. She thought he was trying to poison her."
http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/from_cradle_to_the_grave_nationalnews_philip_recchia.htm

It was also reported into another news article.

Philip Recchia is a Gossip Columnist. The first line in his article gives that way....August 20, 2006 -- The pervy predator charged last week with the killing of 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey cruised middle schools as a young man,


I am going to pass on that as being News or accurate.

 

[Chrishope]

Yep, we don't know because they don't know, because they didn't bother investigating Karr before arresting him.

http://www.crimerant.com/?p=129

To be fair, they probably couldn't run the risk of him fleeing Thailand for... who knows where?

 

[BillyGoatGruff]

As a matter of fact, I live about 80 minutes from Atlanta...so yes, I have been there, many, many times.

Know the Ramseys then ? The Karrs?
Hell, I live within 3 miles of the Ramseys house, but have never knowingly met them, socially, antisocially or otherwise.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

Hmm.
Ever fly on the holidays? I mean ON the holidays? He'd also need a rental car when he got there. The paper trail would be fairly sizable.

Exactly, lol. It's not like you hop a plane and you're in Colorado in 10 minutes!!
Granted, you do gain an hour or two flying westward, but how are you going to get to an airport, fly to your destination, get from an airport to a stranger's house and just so happen to get in their house when they can't see or hear you??
That takes a lot of intricate planning.
Then he has to kill JonBenet, get out of the house without being discovered, get to his destination and back home. We're talking at least 24 hours here, and even if he was able to pull all of this off, he would've had to have some good inside knowledge of the home and neighborhood to escape without being seen.
We're not talking about a bad neighborhood, either. One that is bustling with people who have alarms on their homes and watchful eyes.

 

[BillyGoatGruff]

To be fair, they probably couldn't run the risk of him fleeing Thailand for... who knows where?

Flee? He just started teaching a bunch of kids in his preferred age range. Pedos aren't going to give up their prey group that easy.

And just because they arrest him doesn't mean they need to splash it all over the news, even if he does "confess". They could have simply arrested him on the fugitive warrant from California and investigated him on the QT to make sure it wasn't yet another wild goose chase. But nooooo.

I have yet to meet anyone involved in LE and the justic system who honestly thinks this guy is guilty of anything besides kiddy and probably molestation of children in his charge. Since they deal with these freaks on a regular basis, I tend to take their word over that of those with vested interests in him being a killer.

 

[tybee204]

That and he was traveling on a passport under his real name.

 

[cricket]

I found the link to the article I mentioned above. It says that LE were looking at him in 2001 in relation to JonBenet.

Marie Case, who represented Karr on the 2001 misdemeanor charges, said Friday that members of the Sonoma County Sheriff's Department mentioned to her at the time that "there was possibly some involvement" in the Ramsey slaying 1,200 miles away in Boulder, Colo. -- "just saying, 'Hey, we're looking at this guy.' "


rest of the article:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/08/19/RAMSEY.TMP

 

[BillyGoatGruff]

Exactly, lol. It's not like you hop a plane and you're in Colorado in 10 minutes!!
Granted, you do gain an hour or two flying westward, but how are you going to get to an airport, fly to your destination, get from an airport to a stranger's house and just so happen to get in their house when they can't see or hear you??
That takes a lot of intricate planning.
Then he has to kill JonBenet, get out of the house without being discovered, get to his destination and back home. We're talking at least 24 hours here, and even if he was able to pull all of this off, he would've had to have some good inside knowledge of the home and neighborhood to escape without being seen.
We're not talking about a bad neighborhood, either. One that is bustling with people who have alarms on their homes and watchful eyes.

He'd have to have it timed like Ocean's 11--right down to Sammy Davis Jr. driving the garbage truck!

And Boulder is a to drive around in even when you know where you're going.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

He'd have to have it timed like Ocean's 11--right down to Sammy Davis Jr. driving the garbage truck!

And Boulder is a to drive around in even when you know where you're going.

ESPECIALLY when it snows!!

 

[BillyGoatGruff]

I found the link to the article I mentioned above. It says that LE were looking at him in 2001 in relation to JonBenet.

Marie Case, who represented Karr on the 2001 misdemeanor charges, said Friday that members of the Sonoma County Sheriff's Department mentioned to her at the time that "there was possibly some involvement" in the Ramsey slaying 1,200 miles away in Boulder, Colo. -- "just saying, 'Hey, we're looking at this guy.' "


rest of the article:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/08/19/RAMSEY.TMPhttp://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/08/19/RAMSEY.TMP

So SONOMA but not Boulder was looking at him re JBR at the time of the kiddy charges. No doubt because of his obsession with the case. I'm sure they found all kinds of weird crap about on his PC. But nothing obvivoulsy came of it. I doubt they even contacted Boulder.

 

[sntemp]

"So SONOMA but not Boulder was looking at him re JBR at the time of the kiddy charges. No doubt because of his obsession with the case. I'm sure they found all kinds of weird crap about on his PC. But nothing obvivoulsy came of it. I doubt they even contacted Boulder."


This would have to do with the wiretapping they were doing with Wendy Hutchins.

 

[BillyGoatGruff]

That and he was traveling on a passport under his real name.

They could have grabbed him whenever he tried to leave. This guy does not impress me as being swift enough to know where and how to get a phoney passport, especially in the post 9-11 world.

 

[tybee204]

They were looking at him because the Ms Hutchins reported him. In her interview she said LE recorded her converstations with Karr regarding the JBR murder.