Plane Crash....

  • #21
Weather not a factor say CNN meteorologists--Storms in area were too far south
 
  • #22
another news conf--plane is in a field,a mile from runway--extensive fire damage--official says deaths were from fire? not smoke inhalation--a horrible fact,if true
 
  • #23
49 of the 50 are dead. Praise the Lord for the one, and prayers that they pull through. (And not feel too guilty for being the only survivor.)
 
  • #24
Just out .... the pilot went down the wrong unlit runway ... what the heck?!
 
  • #25
capps said:
Just out .... the pilot went down the wrong unlit runway ... what the heck?!
But wasn't the plane taking off? How would using the wrong runway cause it to crash? And weren't they already attaining altitude? :confused:
 
  • #26
sandraladeda said:
But wasn't the plane taking off? How would using the wrong runway cause it to crash? And weren't they already attaining altitude? :confused:

Something about the runway wasn't long enough for this aircraft.
 
  • #27
adnoid said:
The correct runway is 7,000 feet long, the one they used is 3,500 feet long. At max weight that aircraft needs about 5,000 feet to reach safe takeoff speed.

Probably the pilot saw he was running out of runway and had to either lift off quicker than he was prepared to or abort takeoff in a split-second decision and he probably lifted off in a panic and lost control. That would be my take on it.
 
  • #28
That's a possibility englishleigh. But the bigger question is ... it was dark outside when the pilot took off,the runway he was suppose to use was ready and lit ... why did he take the unlit "daytime" runway in the first place?
 
  • #29
I heard one commentator say two of the people who died had just been married last night and were on their way to a honeymoon destination. Lots of sad stories will come out of this.
 
  • #30
Annie said:
I heard one commentator say two of the people who died had just been married last night and were on their way to a honeymoon destination. Lots of sad stories will come out of this.
Yes, Annie. I have had Fox News on all morning. I just heard that. So sad. I have a friend who is visiting Lexington now. I haven't heard if she was due to fly back here yet. I don't know what flights she would have to take to get to Denver or Colorado Springs.
 
  • #31
This is so sad! Those poor people and their families.
 
  • #32
James Polehinke, 44, of Margate, the sole survivor of the Comair Flight 5191 crash in Lexington, Ky., is a friendly man who mostly keeps to himself.

No one answered the door at his tan home Sunday afternoon.
At least half a dozen neighbors said they did not know much about the 6-foot-two pilot who worked for Delta Airlines. Records show he received an airline transport pilot certificate in November 2005.

David Norris, who lives next door, said Polehinke had three or four small dogs. Norris also believes he was divorced from his wife, Ida. Florida records do not show the couple had divorced.

Ida Askew, 51, was arrested and charged with attempted murder in July 1999 after she shot Polehinke in the stomach with a handgun while the couple was arguing, police records show.

Askew did not return calls Sunday.
more at the link http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/local_news/epaper/2006/08/27/0827planefeed.html
 
  • #33
Annie said:
I heard one commentator say two of the people who died had just been married last night and were on their way to a honeymoon destination. Lots of sad stories will come out of this.

I heard that, too, and almost bawled. How horrible. At least they were together, but they never got to LIVE. Their poor, poor families. Can you imagine, they were still cleaning up a wedding and now they have to have a double funeral. :( :( :(
 
  • #34
I don't understand how this could have occurred. Aren't there people in the control tower watching where these planes are landing and taking off from? This could have, and should have been prevented.
 
  • #35
This happened an hour from us. It's all very sad. The man what was married the night before was an ex-pitcher for the UK baseball team. It is all so hard to take in....

My husband said he heard last night on a report that the crew had just landed at the airport after midnight and was due to fly again on the 6:00 AM flight. So that means they only got 5 hours of sleep before heading out. Got to wonder IF that is true then just how that plays into account.

I pray that the first officer makes it and goes on to live a happy life.
 
  • #36
Adnoid, would the pilots be able to see that they had a short runway? Don't the ATCs watch to be certain the plane was taking the correct runway? I mean there were only two runways, correct? Also I think the lack of runway light would be a huge clue. I would think the pilots would have experience with this airport, correct? Thanks.
 
  • #37
Adnoid, are you a pilot? I have read so many of your posts going back to the Laci Forum and I never knew that. If so reading about this must be awful, like if only you were the one flying that plane...


Good Grief, my hubby and I are supposed to travel this winter (without the kids for only the second time and they're already 9yrs and 13yrs - don't feel sorry for them they've been as far as Japan and Australia) but now I'm so ready to cancel because of this...



What a tragedy for so many families :(

There have been alot of plane crashes in the last year but I've convinced myself that Canadian and US planes don't crash :doh:


the lone survivor is in critical condition, hopefully he or she will make a full recovery :(


Jubie
 
  • #38
adnoid said:
I too hope he makes it, but honestly I don't know how happy his life will be knowing that he was in charge when so many died.


OMG, I didn't realize the survivor was the co-pilot!! Oh how sad is that, my heart still goes out to him and his family. For all we know he may have tried to say or do something to avoid this from happening. He'll have this with him for the rest of his life no matter how good of a recovery he makes.
 
  • #39
Adnoid,

Thanks for your reply and I appreciate your input on flying regardless of this latest tragedy.

We flew with Japan Airlines for our travels through Japan and then to Australia, my understanding was at the time (departing January 2005), that Japan was in the top 10 airlines to travel with... maybe not so much? We racked up some great points with them but I'd happily dump them if you woud say so.

We were going to go to Belize but that didn't work out so we're going to Hawaii (Big Island) so that friends can join us... have you heard very much about Air Canada.

Thanks so much if you can shed some light.



Jubie


Very cool about you flying for pleasure, as soon as I read the part about it being relaxing for you I recalled you have mentioned that before.
 
  • #40
I am wondering if either the pilot or copilot ever flew in/out of this airport before?

I'm also wondering why the ATC couldn't visually and with radar see that the plane was on the wrong runway. It's not like he had alot of other things going on, as this was the only aircraft in his control at the time, I believe. I mean why do they put them up in those tall towers anyway? Isn't it so they have a good visual of all the runways?
 

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