GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #111

[LetsSolvIt]

Okay if you are not remembering DM is Dylan 1 of 2 surviving roommates, so there you go. I thought this was a huge deal that she attended the plea deal hearing, myself!

Or if you are saying that the link does not work, I tried it and it worked and played and there is text too to read instead (Apple podcast which I am not an apple person but it worked for me just now).

Bryan Kohberger pleads guilty

Podcast Episode · The King Road Killings: An Idaho Murder Mystery · 07/03/2025 · 15m

podcasts.apple.com

No, just wasn’t remembering who DM was — my brain wasn’t clicking!
I also didn’t watch that podcast — so didn’t have context.
Thank you for reminding me who DM is.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

MSN​

Bryan Kohberger admitted to 4 Idaho murders. Why did prosecutors offer a plea deal?​

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Legal experts told the Idaho Statesman the prosecution had myriad motivations for agreeing to extend a deal, from sparing surviving victims and families the strain of a trial, to mitigating the cost of an already expensive case. For the defense, the benefits were more obvious: Their client avoids the possibility of being put to death if convicted by a jury. A death sentence would have opened a new realm of potential concerns over appeals and court costs.

Read article for more possible reasons and family input.

Bill looks so sad. My heart is heavy for him. I think this case took a lot out of him — and probably his last sentence before retirement. We could say, another victim. OMO.

 

[Luna20]

That is why I think he will never talk.
This is his secret.
The secret of a twisted mind.
Trying to cajole him into "bosom to bosom" talk about motive is laughable IMO.

He confessed to avoid DP, (IMO)
but only saying YES x 5.
Nothing more.

It is just MY Opinion!!!

PS
It also might be that as long as his parents live, he will be silent.

That is his control, he has something that others don’t. It’s the only thing he has left to feel dominant over others.

As far as secrets, he should realize that the secret about him is out. He is a loser, he isn’t smart like he wants to portray. He was sloppy in leaving evidence behind. He didn’t complete the perfect crime. He didn’t have any friends or girlfriends to come to his defense. His own sister thinks he is weird.

He is a coward. He will never go to a restaurant, a game, a movie, a museum, a concert, a taco-truck, etc again. So he didn’t win, he scripted his own demise. He was a loser before and he is the worst kind of loser now.

 

[LadyL]

Question of the hour: will Judge Hippler make an address at sentencing?

hope so

 

[Warwick7]

Interesting to me and maybe of interest to a few others on WS, Gray Hughes ran a quick Chat GPT - comparison between Eliot Rodger and BK.

At 3hrs (!) 40 mins at this link. ( The AI analysis was preceded by a few of the old Rodger vlogs/whines and sparked by a new article in the Mail from a psychologist writing about a shared theme)

Wowzers.....

 

[Warwick7]

Bryan Kohberger may have been inspired by killer Elliot Rodger https://share.google/Mct88IVkgFL5iNElA

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Bryan Kohberger may have been inspired by killer Elliot Rodger https://share.google/Mct88IVkgFL5iNElA

I've been quite convinced of this ever since reading ER's manifesto / diary.

Especially if it was BK who posted as Papa Rodger and also joined in some FB discussion groups about the murders.
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Also his questionnaire that went out to violent criminals. What do we know of all these things? Would these matters have been raised in court, did LE ever gain any proof that it was BK in the discussion forums, I imagine they would have.

JMO MOO

 

[cottonweaver]

I've been quite convinced of this ever since reading ER's manifesto / diary.

Especially if it was BK who posted as Papa Rodger and also joined in some FB discussion groups about the murders.

Previously we weren't permitted to discuss these matters but since BK is now convicted, are we allowed to discuss the reddit thread and the FB groups that BK was allegedly in?

Also his questionnaire that went out to violent criminals. What do we know of all these things? Would these matters have been raised in court, did LE ever gain any proof that it was BK in the discussion forums, I imagine they would have.

JMO MOO

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(Personally, I wasn't convinced by the Papa Rodger stuff in 2023 - because we were watching live as people made fake BK accounts etc - BUT I'm always open to new info and that feels like a lifetime ago now. OTOH I was immediately convinced that the tapatalk and criminology questionnaire was his )

Back then I was also hoping that FBI might be able to access deleted searches at, for example, his university office. It's not like he was smashing laptop/computer CPUs is it?

Is everybody still expecting nothing extra on the digital forensics front, after the gag order is lifted?

 

[Fleur-de-lis]

Looking at the second signature that has the piece that looks like a little F makes me think...
F
C (middle initial)
K (beginning of his last name)

So only the vowel missing to make the word we see & I wonder if it's a small middle finger to "the system" & yet there's plausible deniability? MOO.

(And I wonder if he's ever done that previously other times when his signature was needed & he wanted to make a silent protest of sorts. It's a petty, juvenile thing to do & I could see him choosing to do so. Jmo.)

Very interesting, and plausible, too. And IMO, he will do quite a few of these "breadcrumbs" in order to sow confusion and show derision, during sentencing and from behind bars.

 

[Missyrocks5]

I've been quite convinced of this ever since reading ER's manifesto / diary.

Especially if it was BK who posted as Papa Rodger and also joined in some FB discussion groups about the murders.

<modsnip - discussing moderation on the thread>

Also his questionnaire that went out to violent criminals. What do we know of all these things? Would these matters have been raised in court, did LE ever gain any proof that it was BK in the discussion forums, I imagine they would have.

JMO MOO

That is really a big question I hope we get answered once the prosecution releases the evidence. Can we finally find out if he was Pappa Rodgers. I do see where the argument can be made that it was someone in law-enforcement that knew details that were not released; however, at least one of the posts made really makes it seem as though it was BK. I cannot see anyone in law-enforcement posting that they feel that the white car was irrelevant. That then takes you back to, it really looks like it was him running interference.

Given his profile, and the fact that he went back there the next morning, whether to try to retrieve the sheath or assess why it wasn't covered in police vehicles, he is a nasty piece of work given how he treated a lot of people per the interviews we have seen. Also, his own words in those posts about how he felt like a pile of meat and was nasty to his own family feeling no connection with them. That type would absolutely relish participating in group discussions with everyone talking about this case, not knowing who it was, the police seemingly not knowing who it is. It would make him feel powerful. We know that his searches showed he was watching YouTube videos analyzing the case.

 

[Gemmie]

Looking at the second signature that has the piece that looks like a little F makes me think...
F
C (middle initial)
K (beginning of his last name)

So only the vowel missing to make the word we see & I wonder if it's a small middle finger to "the system" & yet there's plausible deniability? MOO.

(And I wonder if he's ever done that previously other times when his signature was needed & he wanted to make a silent protest of sorts. It's a petty, juvenile thing to do & I could see him choosing to do so. Jmo.)

IF he did that to hide a bad word in his sig as an inside joke or hidden message.. I'd fully expect there to be a U somewhere after the F C K (not necessarily one between the F and C, but one after that is the most important placement IMO. If that was a hidden message.). JMO

 

[Chloegirl]

<modsnip - discussing moderation on the thread>
(Personally, I wasn't convinced by the Papa Rodger stuff in 2023 - because we were watching live as people made fake BK accounts etc - BUT I'm always open to new info and that feels like a lifetime ago now. OTOH I was immediately convinced that the tapatalk and criminology questionnaire was his )

Back then I was also hoping that FBI might be able to access deleted searches at, for example, his university office. It's not like he was smashing laptop/computer CPUs is it?

Is everybody still expecting nothing extra on the digital forensics front, after the gag order is lifted?

I do wonder. Right now it feels like not much is going to come out but I will stay vigilant. I think BK wanted compared to TB because he may have idolized him, or thought of himself in an elevated status. It turns out he is getting a lot more ER (Elliot Rodger since he is not very well known by all) comparisons, which is dragging in the incel theory. I do not think he will like that. Maybe it will make him talk. JMOO

 

[pittsburghgirl]

Bill looks so sad. My heart is heavy for him. I think this case took a lot out of him — and probably his last sentence before retirement. We could say, another victim. OMO.

He did the right thing and he's being attacked for that. He got a deal that doesn't offer vengeance but the chance of peace and healing for most of the families. And many people commenting (not here, but online generally) don't understand what the death penalty means in terms of how long it can drag out. It makes me very sad for him and for LE who did their jobs very well.

 

[Boxer]

IF he did that to hide a bad word in his sig as an inside joke or hidden message.. I'd fully expect there to be a U somewhere after the F C K (not necessarily one between the F and C, but one after that is the most important placement IMO. If that was a hidden message.). JMO

Just a note: Among younger teens the joke is, you the reader supply the u.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1943340595457724633

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article310220860.html

 

[Gemmie]

Just a note: Among younger teens the joke is, you the reader supply the u.

They add the U at the end? Or are you saying between the F and the C? Cuz I was talking about adding it to the end (as it's own word).

 

[Sachi]

at

K


The crime of killing innocent citizens is a crime against the state. He is a good prosecutor - he got BK not to take a chance on successful appeal in coming decades, which would be so terrible.
AT built her reputation on conducting a successful appeal for a guilty murderer, and at this trial she was vigilant to lay in as much appealable material as possible.

Some info on Ann Taylor.
Leads Successful Appeal.

Funny the more complete (2nd) article never mentioned her by name. This appeal is very hard to come up with now, almost like scrubbing is happening.

Ellington sentenced in road-rage case Idaho Supreme Court overturns Ellington murder conviction

Interesting

 

[NyxNY]

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I have guessed that he is trying not to piss off the family, not that he was trying to leave EC out. JMOO

Maybe they have asked him to leave their son out of it?

Early on, I perceived his comment of they did not have to go upstairs as "blame". I was not sure, but I can imagine that there could be some animosity from various camps about how they were targeted. This seems a little natural when trying to make sense of scene. JMOO

To me "they did not have to go upstairs" meant in SG's mind one of the girls on the third floor was the target. If BK's motive was just to kill, he could have just stayed on the second floor where he entered. MOO

 

[Cedars]

Just a note: Among younger teens the joke is, you the reader supply the u.

It's really up to the receiver how 'shocking' the word is.

In many circles it's pretty banal. Didn't Trump use it recently? It's also been used to jazz up the title of books, including bestsellers like The Subtle Art of Not Giving A...

 

[vls12345]

They add the U at the end? Or are you saying between the F and the C? Cuz I was talking about adding it to the end (as it's own word).

For me, I meant putting the U in between the F and the C.