GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #112

[pittsburghgirl]

Goncalves had already voiced his disgust with Thompson for agreeing to a plea deal with Kohberger, and during his appearance said that it seemed as though the prosecutor cared more about protecting the image of his daughter's killer than getting justice for his daughter.

https://people.com/bryan-kohberger-motive-kaylee-goncalves-weird-🤬🤬🤬🤬-fetishes-gagging-11775218

Jul 18

He said this? That the prosecutor was protecting the image of the killer? By asking him over and over if he was guilty, if he killed each of the victims. why he was confessing?

That's all I have to say.

 

[Boxer]

and I don't understand why GH would use AI images when their real images are available

I think GH thinks its obvious AI for his thumbnail. He uses a lot new technology. He interviewed ChatGPT on case details, did a 360 camera walk through BKs route around King and Queen Roads, and made a house model recreation.

 

[TristanP]

I think BKs mother told him she would never stop fighting for his life if he got he death penalty. He weighed being on death row with his mother out there unstoppably advocating, with just being a prisoner. It was a lifestyle choice.

I'm curious where all this opinion comes from about his parents' thoughts, feelings, and actions. Have his parents spoken out at any point other than the brief statements issued by attorneys?

It seems like people are spinning a narrative about some loving relationship BK had with his parents and how his parents have been in denial, then how they convinced him to take a plea deal, now how his mother would "never stop fighting for his life" if he got the death penalty.

For all we know, his parents might have been willing to accept him getting the death penalty once he'd been proven guilty, or may have made a decision at this point that they'll never communicate with him again because he has admitted his guilt, right?

 

[Boxer]

I'm curious where all this opinion comes from about his parents' thoughts, feelings, and actions. Have his parents spoken out at any point other than the brief statements issued by attorneys?

It seems like people are spinning a narrative about some loving relationship BK had with his parents and how his parents have been in denial, then how they convinced him to take a plea deal, now how his mother would "never stop fighting for his life" if he got the death penalty.

For all we know, his parents might have been willing to accept him getting the death penalty once he'd been proven guilty, or may have made a decision at this point that they'll never communicate with him again because he has admitted his guilt, right?

I don't think its love. I think he thinks like a teen and doesn't want his mother out pleading for him as he is stuck in a DP cell. Just
MOO

 

[TristanP]

Asa Heuermann and family made out with a million.

Asa Heuermann is not who I was discussing. Her circumstances and decisions are entirely different than the Kohbergers, who have not even spoken publicly except for brief, appropriate statements through their lawyers.

 

[TristanP]

I don't think its love. I think he thinks like a teen and doesn't want his mother out pleading for him as he is stuck in a DP cell. Just
MOO

But where is the info coming from that his mother would be doing such a thing? I'm asking for source material.

 

[Boxer]

But where is the info coming from that his mother would be doing such a thing? I'm asking for source material.

Just from her previous opinions.

Idaho murder suspect's mom slammed school shooters and death penalty

The mother of the suspect arrested in connection with the Idaho murders has written letters to to a local newspaper in which she speaks out against the death penalty, school shootings and abortion.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

But where is the info coming from that his mother would be doing such a thing? I'm asking for source material.

You're right. We don't know these things. As if the family would disclose them to press, never.
One thing for sure, they'll be reeling from shock and in trauma because they are normal regular kind caring people and anyone would.

Everything we attribute here to BK's motives and emotions is just speculation and even projection. He actually looked terrified to me but nobody wants to hear that, they want to say he looked cold and controlling. We know nothing. He could have been following instruction to the rule - no emotion no speaking etc. We rarely hear killers say please forgive me I was out of my mind and I did a terrible thing - there's a reason for that, they get told not to. So we can never be sure.

JMO MOO

 

[LadyL]

I think GH thinks its obvious AI for his thumbnail. He uses a lot new technology. He interviewed ChatGPT on case details, did a 360 camera walk through BKs route around King and Queen Roads, and made a house model recreation.

yeah I'm aware of his use of technology - I guess I don't understand why he wants to use AI images at all

 

[Dotta]

yeah I'm aware of his use of technology - I guess I don't understand why he wants to use AI images at all

For the shock value, I guess.

Because,
it certainly made my face go like seeing it.
Yep!!!

Thank you folks for your answers.

AI for certain IMO.

And the base/original photo
seems to be from earlier times (prison orange)
when AT was probably showing him some documents, hence eyes looking downward.

But, Phew!
Mission accomplished hehehe

JMO

 

[cottonweaver]

But where is the info coming from that his mother would be doing such a thing? I'm asking for source material.

I haven't found anything in the Ward & Patterson book which implies they are speaking.

I haven't done the Howard Blum book but in his most recent interviews, everything he says about BK's family's thoughts seems to be third hand so I don't think they're talking to any reporters/authors on background, which is understandable considering hideousness of the crime & coming to terms with reality that your own child is the perp.

Blum ( Dateline) speculated BK's father might have suspected on the car trip back to PA. ( Speculation which is of no greater weight than what we do here. I'm minded to think it was maybe the sisters who suspected most, as we heard originally. )

Blum also claimed that the family, particularly the mother, prompted BK to admit his guilt after seeing Dateline but this was also third-hand info.
OTOH I do think it's plausible that the family were shocked at the Dateline contents ( especially the new revelations such as internet searches wrt rape, trying to find a new knife & sheath etc.) It wouldn't surprise me that prior to Dateline, he'd been adamant about his innocence to them. ( There are a lot of examples in the Ward-Patterson book where BK is furiously denying the undeniable to a range of people, through his teen years. )

Anyway, maybe Dateline streams, then the scales fell away for the parents. ( In their position I'd probably threaten my son that I'd abandon him if he didn't admit his guilt. That would also mean no funds & no prison comms until he did which might focus his mind)

Nonetheless, if Blum is right, it would be ironic if breaking a gag order - to produce media sensation pre-trial - was the straw that broke the camel's back & prevented the trial taking place.

 

[Warwick7]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1947242577725415539

 

[Inthedetails]

The thumbs up selfie in front of his shower certainly reveals a bit of his internal landscape.

I personally don't think BK is unemotional. I think he might present a flat affect but that doesn't mean he is unemotional. Plenty of emotion in that selfie, plenty of emotion in his reported interactions with a least one professor, plenty of emotion in his almost panicked escape from 1122 King Rd in which he nearly hit a parked car as he sped off.

I've been wondering if that thumbs-up selfie was for his mom and dad. He spoke at length to them soon after the murders. That would've been in the middle of the night for them in Eastern time zone. That indicates it was "emergency" call, not a chit-chat call unless they are people who stay up all night, I suppose.

I think mom and dad were concerned and perhaps asked him for the photo to assure themselves and/or encourage him. He gave them the "thumbs up" signal that he was okay.

jmopinion

 

[Inthedetails]

I wish that no one would show up for his last hurrah, no statements to him.

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Same.

jmo

 

[DizzyB]

Do we know what to expect during sentencing? I saw it starts at 9am MT, will we hear victim impact statements without cameras focused on the victims? It’s one feed live-streamed so I imagine there will be no accompanying commentary on other sites with the stream. I’ll be in my office that day and I want preset everything.

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1947262452619485692

 

[girlhasnoname]

I will be glad when Wednesday comes and goes. I wish strength and courage to all who want to read an impact statement to the murderer.

The Chapins won't be attending they said, as did Steve G recently. Everyone grieves differently, no judgement by me on any of them for whatever they decide. I cannot begin to imagine their pain.

I am already disengaging from the case. Seeing the Prime special helped put it into perspective for me. I'm sick of hearing about this murderer, we'll never know the truth as to why he did what he did, and even so, what does it truly matter? Maddie, Kaylee, Xana and Ethan are gone from this world by his hand. Nothing is going to change it or make it make sense.

He's a broken, evil psychopath IMO. I don't believe he'll say one word at the sentencing (he will have the opportunity to speak unless they've negotiated that he won't), the victim's families and loved ones will be able to speak out, and the murderer's family (if they attend) will have to endure heart wrenching words about the son/brother they love regardless of what he's done.

The murderer left a massive path of destruction in his wake, he devastated many innocent people. He deserves nothing more from anyone. Sentence him, lock him up and throw away the key. He won't exist to me anymore, and eventually he'll lose the massive media attention as well.

Here's to true healing for those affected. Victims, Survivors, Victim's Families, Friends, LE, CSI, FBI, the Moscow Community, his own family and too many more to name. May they rise up and overcome the darkness and pain that has consumed them for almost 3 years.

I hope that one day they can remember Maddison, Kaylee, Xana and Ethan for how joyously they lived life, begin to heal, and find some measure of peace from this painful and unbelievably senseless crime.

#Justice4KayleeMaddieXana&Ethan

 

[Diddian]

I've been wondering if that thumbs-up selfie was for his mom and dad. He spoke at length to them soon after the murders. That would've been in the middle of the night for them in Eastern time zone. That indicates it was "emergency" call, not a chit-chat call unless they are people who stay up all night, I suppose.

I think mom and dad were concerned and perhaps asked him for the photo to assure themselves and/or encourage him. He gave them the "thumbs up" signal that he was okay.

jmopinion

It is not correct that it would be the middle of the night for them in the Eastern time zone. It is several hours LATER on the east coast (Eastern time) than it is on the west coast (Pacific time). I can't remember the time of the call, but say if it was 6:30 am when BK made the call from eastern Washington, it would be 9:30 am in Pennsylvania.

 

[sassyblue]

DBM

 

[Justice101]

I've been wondering if that thumbs-up selfie was for his mom and dad. He spoke at length to them soon after the murders. That would've been in the middle of the night for them in Eastern time zone. That indicates it was "emergency" call, not a chit-chat call unless they are people who stay up all night, I suppose.

I think mom and dad were concerned and perhaps asked him for the photo to assure themselves and/or encourage him. He gave them the "thumbs up" signal that he was okay.

jmopinion

"Yeh, Dad and Mom.. I was at the house... but didn't even get one scratch on me."