GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

[Megnut]

If it was Murphy barking all through until 5am - calling for help - he did his best - for a puppy - gave up and then hid.

Even though BF, DM and Murphy didn't know what was happening, their roommates died, giving them a chance to survive.

All three are survivors. Not faulting the four victims -- the felon took full control -- even KG and XK who had split seconds to react were defenseless against a mad man with a Kbar. It was their fight that alerted the survivors and staying put saved their lives.

Survivor's guilt is real but I hope both young ladies realize that, by being alive, their recall/interviews helped solidify the timeline, fill in critical details and identify the felon -- instrumental in building the case and ultimately achieving four life sentences for the felon. They stood as witness for their fallen friends.

Noble.

JMO

 

[cottonweaver]

Even though BF, DM and Murphy didn't know what was happening, their roommates died, giving them a chance to survive.

All three are survivors. Not faulting the four victims -- the felon took full control -- even KG and XK who had split seconds to react were defenseless against a mad man with a Kbar. It was their fight that alerted the survivors and staying put saved their lives.

Survivor's guilt is real but I hope both young ladies realize that, by being alive, their recall/interviews helped solidify the timeline, fill in critical details and identify the felon -- instrumental in building the case and ultimately achieving four life sentences for the felon. They stood as witness for their fallen friends.

Noble.

JMO

Agreed

and Murphy barking as he did, making such a commotion, ensured that LoserMonster wasn't going to stick around. As far as he knew, the whole neigborhood could've been alerted.

 

[DizzyB]

It's right. Your Gunderson document fits with Snyder's

Have just read it while looking for dog barking refs

Snyder arrives at noon and he writes that he's 'cleared the scene' around 6pm. ( So he must have taken his photos 12-6pm.)
Snyder's own statement is Supp 4 in the batch if anyone wants to double check

ETA
Anyway, forgot to add - what's people's thoughts on Murphy ( if you believe it's him) barking for 45 - 50 mins stretch?

Sounded like a bigger dog to me. Dog owners-do you know your dog’s bark? I get that in legalese, without concrete proof, it would have to be written as “a dog barking”. But I imagine that in all of the candid interviews released since, someone would have said it was Murphy, if they knew him.

 

[acutename]

Sounded like a bigger dog to me. Dog owners-do you know your dog’s bark? I get that in legalese, without concrete proof, it would have to be written as “a dog barking”. But I imagine that in all of the candid interviews released since, someone would have said it was Murphy, if they knew him.

some dogs have very distinctive barks-others not so much.
if there was a recording, imagine you could match up a sound spectrogram.

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1953876117040844965

 

[gremlin444]

maybe this has already been covered here but
one thing I noticed is that they said in the video that the DDD did not see the murderer
didn't she say in her police interview that she did see him because he was parked right beside her?

That video is from when she got pulled over for an incident in 2024--that was NOT her interview with Moscow police regarding the murders at 1122.

That video is from when she got pulled over for an incident in 2024.

We have what the DD drive said to Moscow police about the night of the murders in the document drop, I just don't have the number of that specific doc at hand right now.

 

[PunishThenForgive]

That video is from when she got pulled over for an incident in 2024--that was NOT her interview with Moscow police regarding the murders at 1122.

That video is from when she got pulled over for an incident in 2024.

We have what the DD drive said to Moscow police about the night of the murders in the document drop, I just don't have the number of that specific doc at hand right now.

@gremlin444, it’s Supp 104:

Bryan Kohberger Investigation Docs - Google Drive

 

[Odeto BJ]

In the photo blog of James Keivom (Gremlin's pic link above) the 12th photo shows a black lab wearing a red collar standing to the east of 1122 King Rd. Could have been this pupper. Or any, really.

Just using Meadow to lead into....

Newly released crime scene photos show inside Idaho house where Bryan Kohberger killed four college students

Chilling newly released crime scene photos show the inside of the home where convicted murderer Bryan Kohberger savagely stabbed four University of Idaho students to death.

nypost.com

Gallery photo 1 of above: looking out through the kitchen level slider. I magnified and cropped where the residual snow on the patio showed footprints....that produced partial per attached, did not modify contrast or intensity.
To me, that shows footprints both approaching and leaving....and overall they turn to the left about 30 feet from the house. Presuming they were not made by the first responders or otherwise well prior to Nov 13: they support the conclusion that the inmate approached from the top of the hill/wooded area....
One other thing I noticed from the supplements describing incidents where Murphy acted strangely, and sounds were heard from that same area: at least 2 of those events occurred in midday, or at least in daylight hours. The inmate's phone indicated all of his prior visits to the near-neighbourhood were during late evening or very early morning periods. If LE had accurate dates for all those incidents they could easily establish where the inmate's phone was at those times or alternatively if his phone was down powered during those same intervals. No link for that train of thought so just MOO.

 

[iamshadow21]

Sounded like a bigger dog to me. Dog owners-do you know your dog’s bark? I get that in legalese, without concrete proof, it would have to be written as “a dog barking”. But I imagine that in all of the candid interviews released since, someone would have said it was Murphy, if they knew him.

I knew my dog's barks. I know my cat's voices. I can tell which one they are.

When my last standard poodle was in the vet for the last time, I could tell it was him barking out back from reception, despite it being a busy practice. It was. They're a vocal, loud breed when they want to be.

So, basically, I'm saying a person who knew Murphy well and had heard him bark often would know his voice. But I'm also saying don't rule him out because you think it sounds like a 'bigger' dog. My standards all stood higher at the shoulder than a labrador when full grown, and they had the lungs to match. I've had four of them over the years. Don't think yappy lapdog, think hunting dog. Standard poodles were originally bred as water retrieval dogs, and like most hunting dogs, they aren't quiet once they decide to be in full voice.

MOO

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1953906075012300859

 

[cottonweaver]

I knew my dog's barks. I know my cat's voices. I can tell which one they are.

When my last standard poodle was in the vet for the last time, I could tell it was him barking out back from reception, despite it being a busy practice. It was. They're a vocal, loud breed when they want to be.

So, basically, I'm saying a person who knew Murphy well and had heard him bark often would know his voice. But I'm also saying don't rule him out because you think it sounds like a 'bigger' dog. My standards all stood higher at the shoulder than a labrador when full grown, and they had the lungs to match. I've had four of them over the years. Don't think yappy lapdog, think hunting dog. Standard poodles were originally bred as water retrieval dogs, and like most hunting dogs, they aren't quiet once they decide to be in full voice.

MOO

I love those Standard Poodles! Never had one but I bet you know the qualitative difference between a very agitated poodle who's spotted a serious threat vs a knock on the door daytime type bark or a play bark

 

[Megnut]

22 minutes long

 

[Bahshudc]

What are people’s opinions on whether the victims’ bodies are in these images, blurred? I’m losing my mind trying to explain that two small white smears on X&E’s mattress is NOT Ethan’s body This rampant speculation really irks me and is why I will always prefer WS. It seems like people are actively HOPING there are bodies in these images. It’s quite sickening. MOO.

 

[JennyJukes]

It does not look like Kaylee had “moved out”. She may have been in the process, but not done.

that's what i noticed. if she was a target (i do still think it was MM), then it's possible inmate #163214 still thought she lived there.

plus, did i read that the most recent stalking incident with KG was only a few weeks before the murders? or an incident where murphy was going "missing" up in the woods?

can we be sure she wasn't a target?

 

[cottonweaver]

that's what i noticed. if she was a target (i do still think it was MM), then it's possible inmate #163214 still thought she lived there.

plus, did i read that the most recent stalking incident with KG was only a few weeks before the murders? or an incident where murphy was going "missing" up in the woods?

can we be sure she wasn't a target?

For the Ward Patterson book, they said she'd only left 1.5 weeks earlier and had not moved out her stuff
Hopefully somebody here who has the digital version can double check that with a quick word search. Might have been Emily Alaunt who relayed it to authors

 

[iamshadow21]

I love those Standard Poodles! Never had one but I bet you know the qualitative difference between a very agitated poodle who's spotted a serious threat vs a knock on the door daytime type bark or a play bark

Agitated poodles are all voice and all teeth. They have a very long snout, and it's startling coming at you when you're not expecting that from something that looks like it's just had an '80s perm.

In build, they're very like greyhounds. Long and lean with a deep, narrow chest and a slightly heavier bone structure.

In terms of personality, they are not a dog you can shove in a backyard and they'll be content. They're highly intelligent, can be highly strung, they get bored and they get lonely without a deep human interaction. They are very connected to the humans in their lives, and often bond to one member of a family very closely.

One of mine was essentially a rescue. A three year old, free to good home. A family member of mine that is an otherwise waste of space person answered the ad, and they told him if he didn't take her, they were putting her down next week. He took her. They'd shoved her in a yard and ignored her. Debarked her when the neighbours complained. Then listed her when they couldn't be bothered with her any more.

Family member had her until she was eight and a half. I and my partner had her from then until the end of her life when she was fourteen. She was full of beans virtually to the end but had regular life threatening chest infections because of the debarking surgery.

You can tell the difference between a stressed bark, a fearful bark, a playful bark. There are nuances to dog voices, and they do all have their own tone of voice. Even when two dogs have similar barks, you can generally tell which one of them is barking if you know them well, as you would with humans you know.

MOO

 

[Vaderman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1953906075012300859

Well, a sizable chunk of the internet did a good job setting BK up with this option by dragging her poor ex through the mud in the early days of the investigation.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

I love those Standard Poodles! Never had one but I bet you know the qualitative difference between a very agitated poodle who's spotted a serious threat vs a knock on the door daytime type bark or a play bark

Or a boredom bark.

 

[whirrledpeas]

With regard to the crime scene photos. They are not ours to see should Judge Hippler rule so. However, there are a lot of people who want to see them, including myself. I studied forensic biology in college with a speciality in blood spatter analysis and am now a Private Investigator.

There is a lot of possible evidence that could be useful for law enforcement and others to study. Had you asked me at the beginning of this if there was any chance BK left blood DNA at such a brutal scene I would have said absolutely, without a doubt. Now that we know he didn’t, it does make me ponder how he did all of this with not one drop of his blood or saliva anywhere.

If it were my kid, I wouldn’t want the photos released and perhaps they won’t be. If that’s the case, that’s fine. But there is nothing wrong with wanting to see the pictures. It’s human nature to be curious.

MOO

 

[whirrledpeas]

Here is the enhanced photo I saw:

View attachment 607008
I guess I could be wrong

I was surmising that was Bethany’s room since Kaylee had all but moved out and have very few things in the apartment. MOO