GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

[Cool Cats]

U of I killer, Bryan Kohberger, reportedly threatening self-harm in bid to force prison transfer - Local News 8

Confessed killer and inmate Bryan Kohberger is reportedly considering desperate measures to force the Idaho Department of Corrections to move him from his current prison block. According to a report by the Daily Mail, the former University of Washington student is threatening self-harm if the...

localnews8.com

Kohberger has submitted several requests to be moved from J-Block, alleging harassment from the other inmates. The 31-year-old made his first request to be moved only one day after arriving in the facility.

According to a report by the Daily Mail, the former University of Washington student is threatening self-harm if the IDOC does not move him out of J-block in the Idaho Maximum Security Institution in Kuna.

 

[LinasK]

U of I killer, Bryan Kohberger, reportedly threatening self-harm in bid to force prison transfer - Local News 8

Confessed killer and inmate Bryan Kohberger is reportedly considering desperate measures to force the Idaho Department of Corrections to move him from his current prison block. According to a report by the Daily Mail, the former University of Washington student is threatening self-harm if the...

localnews8.com

Kohberger has submitted several requests to be moved from J-Block, alleging harassment from the other inmates. The 31-year-old made his first request to be moved only one day after arriving in the facility.

According to a report by the Daily Mail, the former University of Washington student is threatening self-harm if the IDOC does not move him out of J-block in the Idaho Maximum Security Institution in Kuna.

Then they can put him on suicide watch in one of those green TACO suits that Donna Adelson had to wear. No need to move him.

 

[Serononin]

U of I killer, Bryan Kohberger, reportedly threatening self-harm in bid to force prison transfer - Local News 8

Confessed killer and inmate Bryan Kohberger is reportedly considering desperate measures to force the Idaho Department of Corrections to move him from his current prison block. According to a report by the Daily Mail, the former University of Washington student is threatening self-harm if the...

localnews8.com

Kohberger has submitted several requests to be moved from J-Block, alleging harassment from the other inmates. The 31-year-old made his first request to be moved only one day after arriving in the facility.

According to a report by the Daily Mail, the former University of Washington student is threatening self-harm if the IDOC does not move him out of J-block in the Idaho Maximum Security Institution in Kuna.

Bold of him to assume that he'd be harassed any less anywhere else

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

when I was in college and stayed out late partying on a Saturday night, I often did not rise until about that time the next morning. Well afternoon from time to time. I doubt that is a unique experience. They were just kids trying to enjoy the college life. They didn’t know there was something they needed to wake up and deal with.

They actually did know something was going on. They were just too scared to check it out. Not blaming them. Many of us would have done the same. But it's not really accurate to say they were just kids who didn't know they needed to wake up and deal with something. The only reason the roommates were together is because someone was in the house, they heard screaming or crying, and they couldn't reach the other roommates. All of this came out in the documents and police interviews. So they hid out until morning and then called other friends to come over because they were scared to check it out by themselves.

 

[Cool Cats]

Then they can put him on suicide watch in one of those green TACO suits that Donna Adelson had to wear. No need to move him.

Yah. I believe things change when threats of self harm are involved. I would think a suicide "suit" and taking everything out of his cell and watching him every 15 minutes would be what they do for that type of thing, or a suicide watch cell?
Just ideas, they know how to handle him.

 

[Megnut]

U of I killer, Bryan Kohberger, reportedly threatening self-harm in bid to force prison transfer - Local News 8

Confessed killer and inmate Bryan Kohberger is reportedly considering desperate measures to force the Idaho Department of Corrections to move him from his current prison block. According to a report by the Daily Mail, the former University of Washington student is threatening self-harm if the...

localnews8.com

Kohberger has submitted several requests to be moved from J-Block, alleging harassment from the other inmates. The 31-year-old made his first request to be moved only one day after arriving in the facility.

According to a report by the Daily Mail, the former University of Washington student is threatening self-harm if the IDOC does not move him out of J-block in the Idaho Maximum Security Institution in Kuna.

From the world of d'oh

Being suicidal can be a dire mental health crisis.

This isn't that.

It's manipulative.

Bryem wants what he wants and thinks the s-word will magically get him that.

It won't. But we can hope it buys him less freedom, more scrutiny. No soup for you, Bryem. No books. No pens, no pencils, no tablet. Nothing sharp, nothing with glass.

May his every manipulation fail spectacularly.

JMO

 

[LetsSolvIt]

From the world of d'oh

Being suicidal can be a dire mental health crisis.

This isn't that.

It's manipulative.

Bryem wants what he wants and thinks the s-word will magically get him that.

It won't. But we can hope it buys him less freedom, more scrutiny. No soup for you, Bryem. No books. No pens, no pencils, no tablet. Nothing sharp, nothing with glass.

May his every manipulation fail spectacularly.

JMO

We are now referring to him as Karen K., right?

 

[Boxer]

RSBM

I don't agree, in this specific case, the facts are very clear, I'll outline them below.

IMO the roomate who saw/heard the crime was in a literal trauma response (not a pop psychology one). Just as, if you're in a serious accident, your mind will not allow you to think about what happened or what you should do. You will just be focussed on finding safety, like a deer hiding from a lion.

This happens so often, people critize a victim for not acting rationally when they are injured or lost, etc. But their problem is, their rational mind has literally turned off. The organism doesn't want the person to do anything stupid.

In the released policecam footage, the roomate who saw BK said she was utterly terrified that night and had to work up her courage to dash downstairs and hide/lock herself in with the downstairs roommate, who was the only one who answered her repeated texts to all the girls in the house.

The next morning the two survivors kept texting the others and were too afraid to go upstairs, finally contacting a friend, who brought a guy over, who was the only one willing to go upstairs, although first he went and got a sharp knife from the kitchen!

IMO, that's because although the witness couldn't say what she saw, she emotionally conveyed her genuine terror.

So it was not the situation that they didn't know something terrible must have happened. Otherwise, why didn't they all go up to Xana, who the guy had glimpsed lying on the floor, and check how she was. Instead, they left the house and huddled, dressed in their pjs, out in their parking lot in near freezing weather. And told 911 their friend appeared to have passed out... But if she'd only passed out or had an OD, why were they out by the garbage bin?

Terror, that's why.

JMO

MOO to me it seems like the morning after partying to me. Halloween was the week before, lots of incentive not to be a "baby" about noises etc., also they lived in "Pranks R Us" Frat Row, and calling police... that would be the end of your Greek social world. The probability that something like this was actually happening? Extremely low.

 

[Aquabot13]

MOO to me it seems like the morning after partying to me. Halloween was the week before, lots of incentive not to be a "baby" about noises etc., also they lived in "Pranks R Us" Frat Row, and calling police... that would be the end of your Greek social world. The probability that something like this was actually happening? Extremely low.

Totally agree, as someone who lived in a house with 3 other girls at a state school.

I once slept through my roommate cutting her foot open at a bar, coming back, and my other roommates driving her to the hospital to get stitches. They were all 21 and I wasn't, so I was confused but not alarmed by any commotion I heard. Just assumed it was post-bar shenanigans.

Another time, all four of us were screaming our heads off trying to get a bat out of our basement. Our neighbors on the other side of the twin did hear it, but they texted our landlord about it vs calling the police or coming over. Our landlord texted us the next day asking if we were okay, but again, no alarm.

I think some folks are missing the baseline assumption that even if something was wrong there would be plenty of time to sort it out in the morning. JMO.

 

[Cedars]

Totally agree, as someone who lived in a house with 3 other girls at a state school.

I once slept through my roommate cutting her foot open at a bar, coming back, and my other roommates driving her to the hospital to get stitches. They were all 21 and I wasn't, so I was confused but not alarmed by any commotion I heard. Just assumed it was post-bar shenanigans.

Another time, all four of us were screaming our heads off trying to get a bat out of our basement. Our neighbors on the other side of the twin did hear it, but they texted our landlord about it vs calling the police or coming over. Our landlord texted us the next day asking if we were okay, but again, no alarm.

I think some folks are missing the baseline assumption that even if something was wrong there would be plenty of time to sort it out in the morning. JMO.

But DM texted that she was "freaking out" and BF told her "Come to my room. Run."

Does that align with your experiences?

Were you ever too afraid to go upstairs into the house the next morning to 'sort it out', but waited in the cold parking lot for your friends to come?

 

[Aquabot13]

But DM texted that she was "freaking out" and BF told her "Come to my room. Run."

Does that align with your experiences?

Were you ever too afraid to go upstairs into the house the next morning to 'sort it out', but waited in the cold parking lot for your friends to come?

No, because luckily I wasn't in a situation like these poor girls were. Although I did think there was an intruder in my parents house when I was in high school and I was wide awake petrified all night until I got the courage to run to their room in the morning.

I think it's a combination of terror and naivety in this situation. They saw or heard *something* that scared them, but in what world would that "something" be a crazed murderer who had just finished killing their friends?

I guess my point is just that, whether or not they had some sort of indication that something was wrong, they acted reasonably for college kids at 4am. Drunk, self-preserving, and naive to the possibility that it could be something unimaginably awful.

I'm just tired of the narrative that they had something to do with it. Not saying that's how you feel - more of an overall frustration.

MOO

 

[Diddian]

U of I killer, Bryan Kohberger, reportedly threatening self-harm in bid to force prison transfer - Local News 8

Confessed killer and inmate Bryan Kohberger is reportedly considering desperate measures to force the Idaho Department of Corrections to move him from his current prison block. According to a report by the Daily Mail, the former University of Washington student is threatening self-harm if the...

localnews8.com

Kohberger has submitted several requests to be moved from J-Block, alleging harassment from the other inmates. The 31-year-old made his first request to be moved only one day after arriving in the facility.

According to a report by the Daily Mail, the former University of Washington student is threatening self-harm if the IDOC does not move him out of J-block in the Idaho Maximum Security Institution in Kuna.

Washington State University student, NOT University of Washington (which is in Seattle, not Pullman).

 

[PrairieWind]

No, because luckily I wasn't in a situation like these poor girls were. Although I did think there was an intruder in my parents house when I was in high school and I was wide awake petrified all night until I got the courage to run to their room in the morning.

I think it's a combination of terror and naivety in this situation. They saw or heard *something* that scared them, but in what world would that "something" be a crazed murderer who had just finished killing their friends?

I guess my point is just that, whether or not they had some sort of indication that something was wrong, they acted reasonably for college kids at 4am. Drunk, self-preserving, and naive to the possibility that it could be something unimaginably awful.

I'm just tired of the narrative that they had something to do with it. Not saying that's how you feel - more of an overall frustration.

MOO

I suspect these young ladies were very intoxicated. And that was what the Defense was aiming at when they were lining DM up to testify at the Preliminary Hearing. The prosecution then elected to jump to a grand jury indictment to avoid the PH.

 

[Boxer]

I suspect these young ladies were very intoxicated. And that was what the Defense was aiming at when they were lining DM up to testify at the Preliminary Hearing. The prosecution then elected to jump to a grand jury indictment to avoid the PH.

Yes. She said so, but drunk, tripping or not the eyebrows, height, white man, black clothes were all observed by her long before his arrest.
DM admittedly had some troubles growing up, and the defense intended to use that to attack her and make her fear them, and maybe in a win for them they could traumatize her enough during the PH that she wouldn't take the stand during trial.