GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

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This is sort of driving me crazy the sparkler/firework. Where in the world would BK have gotten his hands on some kind of device like this to use it to confuse/misdirect people in the house. I've seen a lot of different references calling it a dazzler (could possibly come in a case like DM saw him carrying).

Early on, there was talk about the theft at WSU. I cannot imagine that they have this for crowd control, but maybe they could?. This is the single most confusing thing (and there has been a lot). JMOO

Follow-up: $99?

Just a suggestion from personal experience. I occasionally wake up to hypnopompic hallucinations - usually a loud boom or knocking, hearing my name called, a bright flash of light. It's very confusing and alarming when I wake up trying to figure out of it was real - and I generally only figure it out because there's no one there to be calling my name, and pets are still asleep, not barking etc.
I also more often fall asleep with hypnagogic hallucinations - kaleidoscope images, feeling like my bed is sinking, dreaming while still partially awake (different than sleep paralysis), etc.

Maybe BF experienced this?
It can happen more often with poor sleep patterns, stress, alcohol intoxication.

 
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As I understand it, PA doesn't require a front license plate on a regular passenger vehicle. Most of the vehicles in Moscow and Pullman would be from WA and ID and would therefore have front and back plates since both are required in those states. (And in twenty-seven other states, too, according to Mr. Google.)

In this case, the absence of something was a plus. With a gazillion white Elantras buzzing around of the approximate year range being sought, the lack of a front plate was a distinguishing (non)-feature. Scoring footage of a car with no front plate was a win and set it apart.

Either the plate was removed, or the car came from someplace distant. (Most one-plate states are far from Idaho, the nearest being Arizona.) It turned out to be the vehicle of an out-of-state student from PA who should have stayed in PA with Mother and Father.
For a detailed explanation, see the superb post from @waitin'4thewrld2chg above.

In short, the footage revealed that the vehicle didn’t have a front plate. Which could narrow the search to Elantras from the few states which don't require them.

It was a key detail and also incriminate BK, one his identity was discovered and his vehicle lined up.

BK looped several times in the neighborhood but was captured only once driving in the opposite direction, likely trying to get a good look at the DD vehicle. Her presence inadvertently provided LE with a critical detail! Another view of the Elantra, one which showed there was no front plate.

Agreeing also with @waitin'4thewrld2chg -- BK should have remained in his parents' basement and never ever moved to Idaho.

JMO

I knew that detail. Just the wording of the posts were confusing for me. Thanks.
 
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I always thought it was possibly xana getting the door dash, dropping her phone. No one has mentioned hearing her open and close the front door. Is it possible she saw the light of either the door opening or xanas phone being used as a flashlight to get her food? We know it was dropped at that front door, yet we don't hear about her retrieving it. At least not that I remember. But it was so close in time to the attack that they could be seen as 1 event.

we know it was dropped at the front door??
 
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yeah and she used the word sparkler too so kind of like sputtering flashes of light
I'm thinking one of those
There is just so much we don't know, lost because BK murdered multiple witnesses.

But there's also a lot we do know.

Like we learned that the DDD didn't not see who retrieved the order she left at the lower level door.

We now know that, at a time, XK and EC were on the couch together. I don't think we know what time EC sent himself to bed or what time XK acquired nightwear (sweatshirt and panties, no footwear).

We now know the DDD arrived much earlier than we knew. She was in the area for 15 minutes, moved her vehicle, was on foot, was going to deliver to the slider but opted not to, all starting at about 3:45 am.

And we know that BK was circling the neighborhood like a shark to bloody water, and that he was looping from about 3:30 onward and overlapped with the DDD, quite intensely really.

She may have gotten the window wrong but she got the hair color right, indicating she'd seen a dark haired girl in the window. Popping up and down out of sight.

Consider: XK was expecting her DD at 3:45, may have been tracking it in real time on her phone. KG could have been waiting with her, happy to have found Murphy. Didn't one of the surviving roommates say someone said she was going up to bed? Maybe she was keeping XP company until her DD arrived and had only recent 'gone to bed' when BB entered.

If XK was on the couch, popping up periodically to check for her delivery, the DDD could have interpreted that as popping quickly out of sight when it really was popping quickly in to sight -- a quick scan for headlights. But also, if she was watching for her DD, XK could have seen the Elantra, even thinking it might be her DD.

It is just so unfathomable that, just two hours before BK breached their slider, the five roommates, the one guest and the one dog were all very much alive but also AWAKE.

BK was still at his apartment, no doubt gathering his kill kit and taking active steps to mitigate transfer...

Chumming on KG's bed
Housemates letting Murphy out
Everybody hungry
Food truck meal, chips, call to the sober driver, DD order....
Calls to KG's ex-boyfriend
TikTok

While he probably showered, shaved, dressed -- all with ghastly intent. Sharpened his kbar. Checked the scanner, to monitor the police presence in his apartment complex. All systems go.

The convergence chills me.

1122 King Road embodied the college experience, that microcosm of real life that should have become, over the span of decades, a delightful kaleidoscope of memories, the same mental montage so many of us have, when we reflect on that plump epoch of our pasts. Instead he murdered that. Murdered four college kids, living the college dream.

Evil.

JMO

I missed the chip detail. Who was eating chips?
 
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Just a suggestion from personal experience. I occasionally wake up to hypnopompic hallucinations - usually a loud boom or knocking, hearing my name called, a bright flash of light. It's very confusing and alarming when I wake up trying to figure out of it was real - and I generally only figure it out because there's no one there to be calling my name, and pets are still asleep, not barking etc.
I also more often fall asleep with hypnagogic hallucinations - kaleidoscope images, feeling like my bed is sinking, dreaming while still partially awake (different than sleep paralysis), etc.

Maybe BF experienced this?
It can happen more often with poor sleep patterns, stress, alcohol intoxication.


oooh that is fascinating
I bet you're right
 
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we know it was dropped at the front door??
We know THE FOOD was dropped at the front door. I'm sorry if I confused people with the word "it" instead of saying the actual noun.
 
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He seemed to lead a "double life".
IMO
he is insane.

Ooops,
I said it AGAIN 😟

But really...
Considering all facts,
I can't say anything else.

And honestly,
I shake my head while thinking about potential authors who cannot wait to interview him & write about him.

I will never read any books about this persona.
WS is sufficient for me.

JMO!!!

Insane. I hear you. Opposite sane. Crazy. But like a fox.

But technically he's not insane. No psychotic break, no delusional construct, like where he thinks he's a messiah and...

No, he's frighteningly sane. Lucid, coherent.

He's just so incredibly disordered. His logic is flawed. He's flawed. Cluster F of personality disorders.

Did he do anything normally?

JMO
 
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yeah and she used the word sparkler too so kind of like sputtering flashes of light
I'm thinking one of those


I missed the chip detail. Who was eating chips?

Iirc it was BF -- in her interview -- she said she went outside with MM and Murphy but only stayed ought there for a few seconds (too cold), went back inside and grabbed a bag of chips from the cupboard before going to her bedroom.

Such ordinary events.

Why, why, why did it have to end this way?

JMO
 
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Iirc it was BF -- in her interview -- she said she went outside with MM and Murphy but only stayed ought there for a few seconds (too cold), went back inside and grabbed a bag of chips from the cupboard before going to her bedroom.

Such ordinary events.

Why, why, why did it have to end this way?

JMO

the more we learn, the more I hate the murderer
 
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These selfies are not dulling my incel vibes
 
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Some lovely new photos from Banfield. I could do without the dramatics though.


WHAT? the actual <modsnip- clever circumvention of the cursing filter>.

Congratulate me I did not go blind. I am, however going to need a Bryan-free day.

It has been nearly 3 years since the events of 11/13, and this is the first time I almost fell on the floor rolling with laughter reading about this case.

Please excuse me I think I'm cracking up and somebody needs to call the looney bin for me. The absurdity!
 
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