GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - ID - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

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I believe that BK used his sister to get a message across (about what he currently is researching bicameral mentality). Also, the united front is somewhat unlikely, since we all have different ideas about things. It is possible that she is acting on behalf of the family to "create" the united front.

Personally I don't buy it, and I think she was quite careful and possibly appropriate to not discuss the crime. However, it becomes a defensive act to give an interview and not address the main issue. They may not believe he is guilty, but I would think all four of them do not have the same opinion. JMOO

The timing of this article is interesting (he was flown back to Idaho 3 years ago today). Something seems quite intentional in the messaging.
I think it was intentional and purposeful. There is still a groundswell of support for BK on social media. Many believe he is about to be proven Not Guilty by the Innocence Project. I think the family wants to build upon that by acting as though they support his innocence as well. The family probably wants to go back to the Good Ol' Days ---before they were under such negative scrutiny?
 
  • #3,762
That's what I've heard. However, I went to go check something and found a pic of that black heart and what's odd to me is IF a copy was made of it with a B&W copier... then why does it radiate color from the sides of the heart out to the edges? Now I'm wondering if what I heard (a B&W copy of it was made) is correct or not.

(Bolding and underling done by me)

The drawing appeared to be a black heart with a multi-colored square background. She [sister Melissa] had drawn it to show that his family still loved him, even if she couldn't attending the sentencing

I see some yellow and pink/lavender. A B&W copier can't produce colors.

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It was probably a cheap or old color copier. Many courthouses and offices have them. They show colours as kind of muted and blurry.
 
  • #3,763
The heart was photocopied, according to the posted article, above, seemingly in black and white.

Also, I read that she offered to resign from her job when the numerous inquiries were hurting her employer.
Yeah, I saw that it was photocopied, but the pic I posted upthread shows colors around the heart. I find that puzzling.
 
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It was probably a cheap or old color copier. Many courthouses and offices have them. They show colours as kind of muted and blurry.
But I'm clearly seeing yellow and pink/lavender. A B&W copier can't do that, no matter how cheap or old it is.

Edited to correct "color" to B&W thanks to an angel on my shoulder. 👼
 
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The heart was photocopied, according to the posted article, above, seemingly in black and white.

Also, I read that she offered to resign from her job when the numerous inquiries were hurting her employer.
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Source is my post #3758.
 
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But I'm clearly seeing yellow and pink/lavender. A color copier can't do that, no matter how cheap or old it is.
So maybe it was a black heart, and the black heart indicated sadness for BK's sister. That might be what she was trying to express. I recall that it has been reported that MK is a creative/artistic, so that might be her own way of expressing her sadness to her brother, but also her love.
 
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But I'm clearly seeing yellow and pink/lavender. A color copier can't do that, no matter how cheap or old it is.
A color copier can't show yellow or lavender? 🤔
 
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So maybe it was a black heart, and the black heart indicated sadness for BK's sister. That might be what she was trying to express. I recall that it has been reported that MK is a creative/artistic, so that might be her own way of expressing her sadness to her brother, but also her love.
That I can make sense of.

Per Merrian-Websters:

Notable uses of the Black Heart emoji 🖤 include support of the Black Lives Matter movement alongside the Brown Heart emoji 🤎. It is also applied to various symbolism associated with the color black, including sorrow, grief, horror, evil, and dark humor. It is used in countless, idiosyncratic other manners to add emphasis in messages about people and things connected in some way to the color black, from sports teams to social causes to fashion.

 
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I use the 🖤 emoji constantly. I'm goth though. From the photos of the sister in the article she does seem/look alternative so I wouldn't read much into the whole black heart thing.

I despise that ghoul of a skin bag and wish nothing for him but misery until his last hopefully painful breath... However, it's easy for me to say that. I cannot judge her for trying to somewhat humanise her brother, as he's exactly that. He's HER BROTHER. I don't know how I would cope if one of my brothers was responsible for such evil and devastation. I would hope that I would shun him and never have anything to do with him again, but deep down I know that the love I have for my brother's isn't something that can just vanish and I would be lying if I said I could just turn my back on them y'know? I feel for her.
The Kohbergers are victims of his crime too in their own right and my little 🖤 goes out to them.

MOO
 
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I use the 🖤 emoji constantly. I'm goth though. From the photos of the sister in the article she does seem/look alternative so I wouldn't read much into the whole black heart thing.

I despise that ghoul of a skin bag and wish nothing for him but misery until his last hopefully painful breath... However, it's easy for me to say that. I cannot judge her for trying to somewhat humanise her brother, as he's exactly that. He's HER BROTHER. I don't know how I would cope if one of my brothers was responsible for such evil and devastation. I would hope that I would shun him and never have anything to do with him again, but deep down I know that the love I have for my brother's isn't something that can just vanish and I would be lying if I said I could just turn my back on them y'know? I feel for her.
The Kohbergers are victims of his crime too in their own right and my little 🖤 goes out to them.

MOO
agreed as a millennial i’m confused bc literally all of my friends use a different color heart emoji. I opt for the pink sparkly heart emoji, 💖 myself.
In contrast to my cheerleader-like energy with sparkly pink hearts, my more brooding type friends will react to things with the black heart emoji. Nothing to see here as they say.

JMO
 
  • #3,773
His sister said the family speaks to BK regularly but we 'don't discuss the details of the case with him.'

I think that's very telling that they don't discuss the case.

I keep hearing people claiming that he is innocent, only pled Guilty because he was afraid of DP and his mom wanted him to save himself, even though he was making a false confession.

So if he is innocent, and did not do this horrible thing, why can't his family talk about it ? Wouldn't they commiserate with him? 'Sorry Sweetie, it really sucks that you are locked away forever and you didn't do anything wrong.'

But Sis is saying they 'avoid discussing the 'details' of the case. Makes it sound like they know he brutally stabbed them all and are walking on eggshells, not wanting to bring up the ugly elephant in the room.

It does not make me think she believes in his innocence. If my brother was falsely accused of a horrid crime and was doing life in prison, I'd be talking to him about HOW we could get him out of there. Let's talk about the details of this crime you were accused of and figure out how to get the Innocence Project onboard?
 
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Thats a strange symbol of support…a black heart? I guess I need to see what the black heart emoji means.
The original NYT article has a picture of the heart. It's multicolored, not black.

Edit--

I just re-read the article and the photo depicted is not the actual drawing, but "similar" to the one she sent him. Apologies for not getting that 100%.
 
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I think it's a simple matter of the origin of the heart photo from the sentencing hearing. The photo that people are analyzing appears to be from a screenshot/still frame from the livestream of the sentencing hearing, as rebroadcast through other media. False color artifacts from screen captures of streamed media are common, and when such an image is enlarged--even more so.

So far, I've not seen an image from the official AP photographer who was allowed at the hearing.
 
  • #3,776
His sister said the family speaks to BK regularly but we 'don't discuss the details of the case with him.'

I think that's very telling that they don't discuss the case.

I keep hearing people claiming that he is innocent, only pled Guilty because he was afraid of DP and his mom wanted him to save himself, even though he was making a false confession.

So if he is innocent, and did not do this horrible thing, why can't his family talk about it ? Wouldn't they commiserate with him? 'Sorry Sweetie, it really sucks that you are locked away forever and you didn't do anything wrong.'

But Sis is saying they 'avoid discussing the 'details' of the case. Makes it sound like they know he brutally stabbed them all and are walking on eggshells, not wanting to bring up the ugly elephant in the room.

It does not make me think she believes in his innocence. If my brother was falsely accused of a horrid crime and was doing life in prison, I'd be talking to him about HOW we could get him out of there. Let's talk about the details of this crime you were accused of and figure out how to get the Innocence Project onboard?
JMO, at most, their response seems to signal ambivalence about his guilt. They probably feel there’s still a possibility that he’s guilty. The fact vidence against him was fairly overwhelming.

Also, who could forget the way he looked and responded when some of the surviving friends and witnesses gave victim impact statements. Their expressions of fear and trauma during testimony made him “perk up”. You could see him sit-up, his eyes widened and he smiled slightly as he watched them cry while describing their fear. It seemed obvious he was enjoying hearing them describe his attacks.

His family had to have seen that, too, though some may still be in denial.
 
  • #3,777
I may be the only one, but I’m not really stressing over the sister’s black heart photo or drawing.

As far as we know, she hasn’t murdered anyone. Who knows if this is her way of expressing grief for her brother, or solidarity with him in prison, or eternal love for him despite his gruesome crimes, or whatever she may be indicating to him.

I suppose it’s relevant in some kind of way that expresses something of their relationship, but as she apparently has not committed any crime, it doesn’t bother me.

JMO
 
  • #3,778
I may be the only one, but I’m not really stressing over the sister’s black heart photo or drawing.

As far as we know, she hasn’t murdered anyone. Who knows if this is her way of expressing grief for her brother, or solidarity with him in prison, or eternal love for him despite his gruesome crimes, or whatever she may be indicating to him.

I suppose it’s relevant in some kind of way that expresses something of their relationship, but as she apparently has not committed any crime, it doesn’t bother me.

JMO
Agree, his family are also victims of this murderer and he continues to manipulate them. Their lives are forever changed as are Maddie, Kaylee, Xana, Ethan's and their families and loved ones. The difference being that the murderer is still alive and able to be communicated with. :(

Does anyone know if he is allowed in person contact with his family? I know that would be hard to do because of the vast distance between PA and ID.

JMO
 
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Agree, his family are also victims of this murderer and he continues to manipulate them. Their lives are forever changed as are Maddie, Kaylee, Xana, Ethan's and their families and loved ones. The difference being that the murderer is still alive and able to be communicated with. :(

Does anyone know if he is allowed in person contact with his family? I know that would be hard to do because of the vast distance between PA and ID.

JMO
So much carnage.
 
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The black heart emoji (🖤) symbolizes various emotions, often contrasting traditional love; it can mean dark humor, deep sorrow/mourning, gothic style, or even just a cool, edgy affectionwithout romance, showing support for things like Black Lives Matter, or just liking something with a twist. Its meaning depends heavily on context, ranging from expressing loss to adding dramatic flair to a joke or showing solidarity.

Jmo moo omo
I saw a photo of the original heart in the NYT article — it was multi-colored — I recall cheerful with a lot of red and orange. My guess is the Xerox was on a black and white copier so the heart came out black. OMO.

Added: For those seeing some color, it could be the transpositions from camera to computer screen, or perhaps the person who Xeroxed it for him tried to doctor it up with colored pencils. I’d let this go. Don’t think sister sent him a black heart, but only my opinion.
 
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