GUILTY (PLED) CT - Jeffrey, 56, & Jeanette Navin, 55, Easton, 4 Aug 2015

  • #281
IMO LE are searching for remains and bullistics/DNA point to KN's gun being used and his parents blood in the truck that was found. I, also, wouldn't doubt that DNA was found in his or his father's work truck.

One of the articles stated that LE are using metal detectors at the ash fill. Hoping to find jewelry or other identifying items. (I'll look for it).

Very very sad. Hope they unseal warrants on friday.

"detectives searched through ashes for pieces of jewelry that could have survived being incinerated, law enforcement sources said that the case that started out as a missing persons case is now a widening criminal investigation. ."


http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-easton-missing-couple-ash-search-20150824-story.html

I am surprised that they think the Navins may have had jewelry that could survive incineration. I wouldn't be surprised if prosthetic parts (e.g., knee replacement) could survive. Gold and silver have melting points below 2,000 degrees F; titanium has a melting point that exceeds 3,000 degrees F. Cobalt chrome melts at just under 3,000.
 
  • #282
I am surprised that they think the Navins may have had jewelry that could survive incineration. I wouldn't be surprised if prosthetic parts (e.g., knee replacement) could survive. Gold and silver have melting points below 2,000 degrees F; titanium has a melting point that exceeds 3,000 degrees F. Cobalt chrome melts at just under 3,000.

Diamonds or other jewels would not melt.
 
  • #283
  • #284
Have you or anyone you've ever known ,ever asked someone before your child or theirs went over before a play date: " do you have a gun in your house?

Thank you in advance.

I ask at each house my kids go to. I didn't used to until my older (6 at the time) was playing at a house. The kids were down in the basement family room when the kid who owned the house brought out his pellet gun and commenced a game of "shooting in the dark" with the guests. My sone ran upstairs before any damage was done. I learned my lesson. I would have never thought a 6 year old would have access to his own gun. NOW, I ask unabashedly.
 
  • #285
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-easton-missing-couple-property-search-20151008-story.html

Cadaver dogs search behind Navins' home

EASTON — State police used at least one cadaver dog Thursday to search the woods behind the home where Jeffrey and Jeanette Navin lived before they disappeared two month ago.

The dog and state police detectives spent several hours in the woods behind 77 Staples Road in Easton, the last known address of the Navins, who have been missing since Aug. 4.

"They are looking for evidence that will lead them to the whereabouts of the Navins," state police spokeswoman Kelly Grant said. At day's end, Grant said the search had turned up nothing.

Kyle Navin, the couple's son, is being held in a federal prison on gun charges that stem from the investigation into his parents' disappearance.
 
  • #286
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-easton-missing-couple-property-search-20151008-story.html

Cadaver dogs search behind Navins' home

EASTON — State police used at least one cadaver dog Thursday to search the woods behind the home where Jeffrey and Jeanette Navin lived before they disappeared two month ago.

The dog and state police detectives spent several hours in the woods behind 77 Staples Road in Easton, the last known address of the Navins, who have been missing since Aug. 4.

"They are looking for evidence that will lead them to the whereabouts of the Navins," state police spokeswoman Kelly Grant said. At day's end, Grant said the search had turned up nothing.

Kyle Navin, the couple's son, is being held in a federal prison on gun charges that stem from the investigation into his parents' disappearance.

I guess the search was unsuccessful: http://connecticut.news12.com/news/police-search-navin-property-for-clues-1.10941639

"State police confirmed they searched the woods behind the home of a missing Easton couple.

Jeffrey and Jeanette Navin were last seen in August.
Investigators say they searched the woods behind the couple's home yesterday using cadaver dogs but came up empty handed."
 
  • #287
I guess the search was unsuccessful: http://connecticut.news12.com/news/police-search-navin-property-for-clues-1.10941639

"State police confirmed they searched the woods behind the home of a missing Easton couple.

Jeffrey and Jeanette Navin were last seen in August.
Investigators say they searched the woods behind the couple's home yesterday using cadaver dogs but came up empty handed."

They've focused so much on Easton so they must have some evidence, but I still say they only lived in Easton for 1 month and kN himself didn't live there. I doubt he would conceal anything at all in Easton. I hope they begin looking elsewhere for other leads.
Do you think the fact that they brought cadaver dogs at all shows the cadaver dogs did hit somewhere.?

What do you think?
 
  • #288
They've focused so much on Easton so they must have some evidence, but I still say they only lived in Easton for 1 month and kN himself didn't live there. I doubt he would conceal anything at all in Easton. I hope they begin looking elsewhere for other leads.
Do you think the fact that they brought cadaver dogs at all shows the cadaver dogs did hit somewhere.?

What do you think?

Maybe the suspect that the bodies were in the truck when he returned it to his parents' rental house and they know he spent a long time there. Also, the text from his father does sort of indicate that something happened at the house...maybe they've found blood there?
 
  • #289
  • #290
I may be in the minority, but the texts between Jeffrey and Kyle don't seem fake/staged to me. Slightly different writing styles, and the "U R" doesn't bother me since I know a few people between ages 50 and 70 who use "U R" instead of "you are".

The texts give the impression that Kyle is trying to track his dad down, trying to meet up with him. (IMO this is because Kyle has already killed mom and wants to take care of part 2 -- dad -- ASAP.) He asks Jeffrey where he is several times before Jeffrey says "I'm not going home till I know mom is okay." Then they have the "I'm going to the police/you're setting me up" convo, and then the final text from Kyle is "I'm home, I left a spot on the road for your truck to fit."

That last text from Kyle to Jeffrey was sent at 1:14 pm. Jeffrey's phone became inactive less than 20 minutes later at 1:32 pm, and was never used again. Gives me goosebumps. I really think that Jeffrey either thought that (a) his son wouldn't try to hurt him, or (b) if Kyle did try anything that he could handle it.

What a sad, sad case. Heroin is a monster of a drug.
 
  • #291
Perhaps the son went to Gilbertie's Nursery in Westport to buy lime which he used to mask the smell of decomposition. At the end of his street is the Rooster River which dries up quite a bit in the summer. He is certainly sticking to the nursery story so there's a good chance he did go to a nursery in Westport. They open at 8:30 am so it's doubtful he met his parents there at 6:30 am. The other end of his street is Brooklawn/59 which takes you right up to Easton. His neighborhood is walking distance to one of the worst parts of Bridgeport in terms of crime, drugs and murders and that type of exposure added to his drug use may have turned him into a different person capable of anything.
 
  • #292
Maybe the suspect that the bodies were in the truck when he returned it to his parents' rental house and they know he spent a long time there. Also, the text from his father does sort of indicate that something happened at the house...maybe they've found blood there?

Exactly, I agree that makes sense.
Back and forth many times.
And it's also a big part of his story.
Maybe he was trying to get the dad to go there to be set up exactly as he JN worried - but then when he kn couldn't get him to go there- had to remove that evidence and come up with a different plan.
 
  • #293
Perhaps the son went to Gilbertie's Nursery in Westport to buy lime which he used to mask the smell of decomposition. At the end of his street is the Rooster River which dries up quite a bit in the summer. He is certainly sticking to the nursery story so there's a good chance he did go to a nursery in Westport. They open at 8:30 am so it's doubtful he met his parents there at 6:30 am. The other end of his street is Brooklawn/59 which takes you right up to Easton. His neighborhood is walking distance to one of the worst parts of Bridgeport in terms of crime, drugs and murders and that type of exposure added to his drug use may have turned him into a different person capable of anything.

I thought about gilberties. ( that is The best nursery btw) But I really doubt it.
If they were meeting to " carpool" why there? there are huge parking lots far closer to 95 at the train station - (if he couldn't take the Merritt because of the no commercial trucks rule. )Did they say anything about exit 17?

To buy Lime!!! wow .... Maybe. That's pretty scary and interesting theory.

Absolutely right about that area of BPort. I've heard it's been a drug deal and cut up houses- area for a long time too.

Pretty disheartening.
 
  • #294
Perhaps the son went to Gilbertie's Nursery in Westport to buy lime which he used to mask the smell of decomposition. At the end of his street is the Rooster River which dries up quite a bit in the summer. He is certainly sticking to the nursery story so there's a good chance he did go to a nursery in Westport. They open at 8:30 am so it's doubtful he met his parents there at 6:30 am. The other end of his street is Brooklawn/59 which takes you right up to Easton. His neighborhood is walking distance to one of the worst parts of Bridgeport in terms of crime, drugs and murders and that type of exposure added to his drug use may have turned him into a different person capable of anything.


:welcome:
 
  • #295
I thought it was sort of strange that the son owned a house in Bridgeport. I imagine his parents were paying him pretty well, and I just don't think of people who grew up in Easton or Weston with the ability to live elsewhere moving to Bridgeport unless Bridgeport has changed a lot since I lived in CT. The area near Westport is super-expensive, but he could have bought in Milford or West Haven or Orange or New Haven or a any number of towns in New Haven county and could still have been easily commutable to Westport. Could easy access to drugs have been a motive? Or am I guilty of being super-ignorant about Bridgeport?
 
  • #296
  • #297
I thought it was sort of strange that the son owned a house in Bridgeport. I imagine his parents were paying him pretty well, and I just don't think of people who grew up in Easton or Weston with the ability to live elsewhere moving to Bridgeport unless Bridgeport has changed a lot since I lived in CT. The area near Westport is super-expensive, but he could have bought in Milford or West Haven or Orange or New Haven or a any number of towns in New Haven county and could still have been easily commutable to Westport. Could easy access to drugs have been a motive? Or am I guilty of being super-ignorant about Bridgeport?

You re right. You are not ignorant about b'port.Those could be motives and he probably got a super good deal on the house with little down and probably an upside to being a Bport resident for the business? Park ave b port is directly below Easton, ( so parents probably were for it) not many people his age were buying housing until recently at best if at all. I don't think) most just now careers picking up. Also park ave 44 is only one exit away from exit 42. There's no 43. So close to their trash hauling route job and family.

I'm stuck on "the sopranos."
If not in terms of connections one could make a theory possibly etc...

I'm stuck on the nature of the business in general and anyone in it knowing what which trash goes where and when. Even at his age in the hauling business he would How to make things just disappear. And clean up too.

I'm stepping out of shock into denial. I know.
:-(
 
  • #298
That's interesting to hear that the son owned that house rather than rent. The taxes in Bridgeport are really high. I used to commute to New York so we rented in Black Rock which is right on Long Island Sound. We looked to buy there, but the taxes and schools were the deciding factors. Black Rock Real Estate Agents call the high taxes a "resort fee." Needless to say, we bought elsewhere. During the summer I drive through Bridgeport a few times a week to get to Jennings Beach. I take Park to Brooklawn and drive right by the son's neighborhood. The text to his father about saving a spot on his street is weird because that street is a ghost town. It's a dead end at the river so it's not even like it's a through street. Anyway, so the father drove his garbage truck to his house and was never heard from again. That's sad.
 
  • #299
This is the end of Kyle's street where it drops down to the Rooster River. Both parents' phones were shut off near his house. The police have searched the Easton property and came up empty. I would think it couldn't hurt to search this river bed. In August it would have been muddy in places and dry in others, very easy to dig. The son had dogs so he probably walked them down there and would have known the area well. I used to walk my dogs along Ash Creek in the summer (Rooster River feeds into Ash Creek) and it was a a big ol' mud pit. Maybe when the owners of the parents' Easton house regain possession, they'll realize the garage is missing a shovel.
 

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  • #300
That's interesting to hear that the son owned that house rather than rent. The taxes in Bridgeport are really high. I used to commute to New York so we rented in Black Rock which is right on Long Island Sound. We looked to buy there, but the taxes and schools were the deciding factors. Black Rock Real Estate Agents call the high taxes a "resort fee." Needless to say, we bought elsewhere. During the summer I drive through Bridgeport a few times a week to get to Jennings Beach. I take Park to Brooklawn and drive right by the son's neighborhood. The text to his father about saving a spot on his street is weird because that street is a ghost town. It's a dead end at the river so it's not even like it's a through street. Anyway, so the father drove his garbage truck to his house and was never heard from again. That's sad.

That is an interesting point really because there are some neighborhoods in Bport where they are very serious about parking spaces. Some family houses are shockingly strict and imo strange about it.
So why did he type that if that street is a ghost town?

And also since kn and girlfriend left that house in Bport,as the news said, for a time reporting they were missing ( not even going in direction of more time to clean things up?) ( or wherever they were staying) why did he leave all those drugs and bags of H all over like that? He had time.

Confusing. I could make a case for - someone else did it- taking advantage of a terrible family situation. I don't know.

Bummed out in Weston
 

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