Police find suspect Steven Stephens in Facebook Live homicide dead in Erie PA

[Guinevere]

I think they went like this:

1. The two doors video. That is where he is sitting outside his ex's workplace.
2. The murder
3. Him in the car, talking on his other phone to people.

In the third video, he is reading comments about his murder video or texts asking, "Is this real?", so I think it was actually live.

That's the way I think they go too.

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[Strangeworld]

Not all criminals have psychotic break. Psychotic does not often cause violence.

This one sounds like he planned it.

I agree not all criminals have a psychotic break, but I disagree that psychosis often doesn't cause violence. It often does (self-directed, other-directed and object-directed) - seen it plenty of times in my work with clients. And there is certainly evidence that supports this in this case. I was disagreeing with your suggestion that he is an injustice collector - just don't see the evidence for this.

 

[EIM]

Thank you for correcting me that it took 10 days to find Joseph Jakubowski. I certainly goofed on that one!! I didn't find him to be as frightening as this guy. Interesting how we each see things differently.

Again, thank you for setting me straight.:blushing:

I was pretty freaked out by JJ but I am in Wisconsin and work in the schools so the threat was close to home. He was found an hour away from where we live and about 15 minutes from the hunting land we own in Vernon county.

I agree there is something especially chilling about this guy though. To walk up to an elderly man taking a walk after Easter dinner, speak to him, look him in the eye and then execute him on the street in the middle of the day takes a special kind of evil. It's like there are no limits at all to what he'll do.

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[Caffeine]

This is absolutely nuts. They need to locate this guy.

It's tough to say if he's dead or not. Depending on how connected he is he could have easily dumped the car, holed up with a distant buddy and plotting his next move. Lots of places to hide really, you just need some ingenuity and contacts. I'm sure he's likely no longer with his car and phone...but still, him taking his own life is quite plausible too. It's hard to say and him being unseen isn't indicative of anything, it could easily go either way.

 

[Whiteorchids]

I think they went like this:

1. The two doors video. That is where he is sitting outside his ex's workplace.
2. The murder
3. Him in the car, talking on his other phone to people.

In the third video, he is reading comments about his murder video or texts asking, "Is this real?", so I think it was actually live.

Ok here's the one in fromt of her workplace saying it was her fault he gambled and lost everything

Who is Taylor? Sounds like murderous Taylor?

https://instagram.com/p/BS-QGhph9Sb/

 

[Elise]

CARIIS, I went googling and found this article with a timeline:

http://www.wkyc.com/tech/facebook-statement-and-timeline-of-stephens-shooting/431984096

From the article:

This is Facebook's 'Timeline of Events':

2:09 PM EDT — First video, of intent to murder, uploaded. Not reported to Facebook.
2:11 PM EDT — Second video, of shooting, uploaded.
2:22 PM EDT — Suspect confesses to murder while using Live, is live for 5 minutes.
2:27 PM EDT — Live ends, and Live video is first reported shortly after.
3:59 PM EDT — Video of shooting is first reported.
4:22 PM EDT — Suspect’s account disabled; all videos no longer visible to public.

So, it was doors video, murder video, then talking on the phone video, but he uploaded the first 2, then went live while he was on the phone. People are commenting on his murder video as he's talking on the phone, so I thought the murder was live, but this says it wasn't. It was uploaded 11 minutes before he went live.

 

[Whiteorchids]

This is absolutely nuts. They need to locate this guy.

It's tough to say if he's dead or not. Depending on how connected he is he could have easily dumped the car, holed up with a distant buddy and plotting his next move. Lots of places to hide really, you just need some ingenuity and contacts. I'm sure he's likely no longer with his car and phone...but still, him taking his own life is quite plausible too. It's hard to say and him being unseen isn't indicative of anything, it could easily go either way.

I really don't think anyone is going to help this guy. Are there places in Cleveland you can drive off a cliff or drive into a deep lake?

 

[Skatexloni]

I watched it a few times to catch the words hard to hear. Apparently he was talking to a fraternity omega bro. He said he shamed omega but mostly himself. I caught a few things that made me believe his life was over.

I agree with the other poster that said he will probably be found dead in a place they shared together.

He mentioned a purple and gold church where he killed some people. Anyone know of a purple and gold church? LE said he was close with some church elders. He mentions killing Greeks I wonder what that's all about. Perhaps the owners of Jacks casino were Greek?

Purple and gold church sounds insane... however, omega psi phis colors are purple and gold.... coincidence .. or not???



ETA... sorry someone else mentioned this.. responded as I caught up on the feed...
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[Elise]

Ok here's the one in fromt of her workplace saying it was her fault he gambled and lost everything

Who is Taylor? Sounds like murderous Taylor?

https://instagram.com/p/BS-QGhph9Sb/

I went googling that, too. It's apparently Murtis Taylor Human Services System, her workplace.

 

[Caffeine]

I really don't think anyone is going to help this guy. Are there places in Cleveland you can drive off a cliff or drive into a deep lake?

I doubt he's still in Ohio and unfortunately people like this typically know at least a few other equally unhinged people. I wouldn't say it's an impossible scenario...but at this point it's hard to say. I'm curious how this will unfold.

 

[Skatexloni]

I wonder what his financial circumstance is like... did he withdrawal a lot of money before these acts? I know he claims to have lost everything with gambling... but if we had any idea about his financial circumstance we can really see how planned or unplanned this was. Was his weapon legally purchased?


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[dotr]

I think personally it's pretty clear that he is dead somewhere, he hasn't been spotted, he would need to eat and I highly doubt he had food in that car. This is such a highly publicized case that someone would have recognized him had he stopped for food or gas, and therefore I can't for the life of me see him still being alive. I think he took a victim, one who couldn't fight back, did it in a way he felt would get him the notoriety he desired and then offed himself somewhere. Most likely The ex knows where this somewhere is, she may not yet realize it, but he probably choose somewhere they frequented or somewhere that meant something to them since he was determined to get back at her.

Actually would not be surprised if he lingers near a petting zoo or other places where animals are kept.
SS seems to get his kicks out of horrifying and shocking spectators, perhaps more than the actual act of harming a victim.
imo, speculation.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/cleveland-facebook-shooting-live-updates-10239941

Henderson said one story particularly disturbed him.

“He asked me to come in and see his pet bird, so I went in their house. He had a parakeet and he had that bird crawl from the cage and on to his finger. “Then he slapped the bird as hard as he could with his other hand, and the bird was lying on the floor.

“The bird looked dead to me.

“I looked at him and his was smiling and laughing as he looked at me and that bird.”

 

[osu]

I really don't think anyone is going to help this guy. Are there places in Cleveland you can drive off a cliff or drive into a deep lake?

There's Lake Erie (just North of downtown), with plenty of boat docks leading into it. There's also the Cuyahoga River that runs right through the city.

 

[Whiteorchids]

There's Lake Erie (just North of downtown), with plenty of boat docks leading into it. There's also the Cuyahoga River that runs through the city.

Thanks for the info. I don't think he ever left Cleveland.

There was so much chatter and sightings last night on the scanner threads. Hasn't been anything in almost 8 hours. That's very telling.

 

[Whiteorchids]

Purple and gold church sounds insane... however, omega psi phis colors are purple and gold.... coincidence .. or not???



ETA... sorry someone else mentioned this.. responded as I caught up on the feed...
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Good catch. I looked up gold and purple church in Cleveland only thing came up was an Armenian church. Are Armenian and Greek similar?

 

[CARIIS]

ok here is some video from the actual scene

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/17/us/cleveland-facebook-homicide-video/

I like seeing all the cop cars all over the place . Just now is the first time I have ever seen that - that is what I was referring to

 

[CARIIS]

Hi Dotr!

Nice to "see" you !

 

[CARIIS]

I went googling that, too. It's apparently Murtis Taylor Human Services System, her workplace.

Just speculating could we be doing an affair? Why would he harbor so much resentment ?

Thus far no-one has heard anything DV related is that correct?

 

[CARIIS]

CARIIS, I went googling and found this article with a timeline:

http://www.wkyc.com/tech/facebook-statement-and-timeline-of-stephens-shooting/431984096

From the article:

This is Facebook's 'Timeline of Events':

2:09 PM EDT — First video, of intent to murder, uploaded. Not reported to Facebook.
2:11 PM EDT — Second video, of shooting, uploaded.
2:22 PM EDT — Suspect confesses to murder while using Live, is live for 5 minutes.
2:27 PM EDT — Live ends, and Live video is first reported shortly after.
3:59 PM EDT — Video of shooting is first reported.
4:22 PM EDT — Suspect’s account disabled; all videos no longer visible to public.

So, it was doors video, murder video, then talking on the phone video, but he uploaded the first 2, then went live while he was on the phone. People are commenting on his murder video as he's talking on the phone, so I thought the murder was live, but this says it wasn't. It was uploaded 11 minutes before he went live.

Ty so much very helpful.

This reminds me of word problems (Failed- without fail!)

If Sally left at 10:00AM and drove for two hours at 55 mph, and Henry left at 10:15 going 47 mph how far would Sally have driven if she passed Henry at 11:10?

Who cares!!

 

[Tricia]

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He was a much-loved father and grandfather. Robert Godwin Sr spent the day surrounded by his family and enjoying an Easter feast.

As Mr. Goodwin walked home he encountered a mad man, Steven Stephens.
Stephens was mad at his girlfriend and said that was the reason he was shooting Mr. Goodwin in the head.

It is beyond senseless.

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