Police say parents are not answering vital questions #2

[Whisperer]

Still stumped why these two are not talking to LE if they are innocent. What makes them feel so entitled that they can dictate how LE is going to interrogate them? They are saying they are not splitting up to be interviewed. They don't care about the missing child. They are in self-protective mode. No parents of a missing child should behave like this...but it was the same thing in Haleigh Cummings. The father shut down, saying, "What do you tell LE after you tell them you don't know anything"...another fine example of a concerned father. :behindbar:

 

[4Jacy]

Still stumped why these two are not talking to LE if they are innocent. What makes them feel so entitled that they can dictate how LE is going to interrogate them? They are saying they are not splitting up to be interviewed. They don't care about the missing child. They are in self-protective mode. No parents of a missing child should behave like this...but it was the same thing in Haleigh Cummings. The father shut down, saying, "What do you tell LE after you tell them you don't know anything"...another fine example of a concerned father. :behindbar:

Yes, and I think this is going to go the way Haleigh's case went...nowhere :maddening:

 

[In da Middle]

And there is no proof that she didn't have the monitor outside with her. Shane not mentioning it doesn't confirm or deny it, especially if it's a person that is young and is not familiar with such a thing.

And if the boys were inside they would be able to come out and tell the adults that the baby is awake. Also we have that the fact is she was only about 20-30 ft away from the baby even being outside on the porch. These houses are small. Trust me, you CAN hear if the baby is crying 20-30 ft away. More like 20 ft in this case.

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

And if the boys were inside they would be able to come out and tell the adults that the baby is awake. Also we have that the fact is she was only about 20-30 ft away from the baby even being outside on the porch. These houses are small. Trust me, you CAN hear if the baby is crying 20-30 ft away. More like 20 ft in this case.

If these houses are so small that one could hear a baby cry on the front porch then why didn't the Mother hear someone breaking into a window, climbing in, walking through the house, turning on lights, searching the rooms for the baby to abduct, opening doors, getting the baby out of the bed, going back through the house, grabbing cell phones all the while keeping the baby quiet and then out the front door and shutting it...how did she not hear anything?

 

[In da Middle]

What in the world were two rifles doing in their bedroom? They were out in plain sight. Who does that with young children in the home?

WE only saw them after the 17 hour search. WE don't know where they were kept on a daily basis. I have a feeling that many things in that house were out in plain sight after that search that normally weren't. My house has several rifles for hunting season. No sinister reason at my house at all, well except for if you are Bambi's family you might think a little differently.

 

[In da Middle]

If these houses are so small that one could hear a baby cry on the front porch then why didn't the Mother hear someone breaking into a window, climbing in, walking through the house, turning on lights, searching the rooms for the baby to abduct, opening doors, getting the baby out of the bed, going back through the house, grabbing cell phones all the while keeping the baby quiet and then out the front door and shutting it...how did she not hear anything?

There's a BIG difference if you are awake or asleep. I, myself, sleep with a fan running to keep all of the little noises I hear during the day, don't keep me awake at night. Sounds like they did the same thing too.

 

[Sparklin]

Not that I'm too proud of it but I've been drunk and managed to walk through a forest without killing myself.

Not to leave anything around? Like what?

I actually think that the phones could be a drunken mistake, instead of a brilliant move that you simply can't do drunk. Like, I'm in trouble. Carp, I gotta hide this. Try to call someone. Carp, the phone doesn't work. OK, I can do it myself... OK, done hidden the baby. Now I'll just lie down and lie that I slept all night and didn't hear a thing when someone came in and took her. I'll just check my voice mail first.... Oh DARN, they'll figure out I wasn't sleeping because I used my phone...Carp carp carp, now what'll I do now???

Sure, me too but not with a 25/30lbs baby in my arms that I had just accidentally or on purpose murdered, with two other children at home possibly searching for mom and running to neighbours or hubby on his way at any minute. Not to mention, even without those issues, it definitely wasn't an easy task and there was some stumbling and scrapes.

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

WE only saw them after the 17 hour search. WE don't know where they were kept on a daily basis. I have a feeling that many things in that house were out in plain sight after that search that normally weren't. My house has several rifles for hunting season. No sinister reason at my house at all, well except for if you are Bambi's family you might think a little differently.

The pictures of the rifles were prior to the 17 hour search.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2052957/Lisa-Irwin-missing-Photos-Baby-Lisas-bedroom-handprints-wall.html

 

[Sparklin]

In almost any murder mystery, it is almost impossible to convict w/o a body. When the parents DNA is over the house, how is anyone going to leave evidence if it were a soft kill.

But "Death" was very probable in that house. Why did the parents mislead LE when they arrived. They led them to the Baby's room and the open window. LE did not have persmission or any reason to search their bedroom..hmm. LE has stated they had conflicting information by the people involved in the case.

Now we have a cadaver dog hit in the parents' bedroom. BL most likely did not die in her bedroom and the parents were well aware of that. It is my opinion, they steered the investigation from the beginning AWAY from their bdrm. And now there is a cadaver hit. Another coincidence? How many do we have and how many people are gong to continue to find excuses for these two?

LE had full run of the entire house on the first go 'round.

 

[natsound]

LE had full run of the entire house on the first go 'round.

That is up for debate. We've seen the word "limited" used regarding their initial search of the home. Also, since we know that special equipment wasn't brought in until the latter search, we must understand that the initial search was not thorough.

 

[In da Middle]

The pictures of the rifles were prior to the 17 hour search.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hotos-Baby-Lisas-bedroom-handprints-wall.html

That article is dated the 24th which was after the search.

This states AFTER the search

NBC’s Peter Alexander shows viewers around Baby Lisa’s room, where her clothes are still hanging up in a wardrobe, and her parents’ room - where FBI dogs allegedly smelt the scent of a dead body.

This info only came out AFTER the search.

And even if it was before the search it was AFTER LE had processed the house on numerous occasions. LE does not put stuff back where they found it.

 

[In da Middle]

That is up for debate. We've seen the word "limited" used regarding their initial search of the home. Also, since we know that special equipment wasn't brought in until the latter search, we must understand that the initial search was not thorough.

Yes, and when stated as 'limited' it said the baby's room and points of egress. Well there were obviously far more in depth searches than that if the dogs picked up the scent in the bedroom.

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

The caption under one of the picture reads: "Crib: The world has had its first look inside the family home of Lisa Irwin, as the desperate search for the 11-month-old girl whose parents say was abducted in Kansas City, Missouri, enters its third week



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...as-bedroom-handprints-wall.html#ixzz1ek2gyNfZ

 

[natsound]

Yes, and when stated as 'limited' it said the baby's room and points of egress. Well there were obviously far more in depth searches than that if the dogs picked up the scent in the bedroom.

I'm not convinced that the searches were thorough before the 17-hour search. Special equipment was brought in during the 17-hour search. If anything were hidden beneath a floorboard or in another inconspicuous place, those things may not have been found in the first search.

 

[voxrock2000]

I do not understand for a minute why JI and DB insist on being interviewed together. What could possibly be gained? They were apart most of the night and only together for a short time before the 911 call. They can't get a half hour story straight between them? It makes no sense to me at all. Unless he wants to hear her answers to the tough questions first hand. I have gut feeling that he is not buying her accounts of the evening. Perhaps it is a power play between them and he wants to see her squirm and tell the truth.

 

[HMSHood]

This case is going nowhere. I tried to give Deborah Bradley the benefit of the doubt, but now I think she had something to do with Lisa Irwin.

 

[In da Middle]

The caption under one of the picture reads: "Crib: The world has had its first look inside the family home of Lisa Irwin, as the desperate search for the 11-month-old girl whose parents say was abducted in Kansas City, Missouri, enters its third week



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...as-bedroom-handprints-wall.html#ixzz1ek2gyNfZ

But we have NO images of the bedroom before the baby is missing. We do not know, and cannot assume that is the way they kept the guns on a daily basis because ALL of the pictures are AFTER the house was processed many times by LE and they do not put things where they originally found them.

 

[Detective Klimpt]

If these houses are so small that one could hear a baby cry on the front porch then why didn't the Mother hear someone breaking into a window, climbing in, walking through the house, turning on lights, searching the rooms for the baby to abduct, opening doors, getting the baby out of the bed, going back through the house, grabbing cell phones all the while keeping the baby quiet and then out the front door and shutting it...how did she not hear anything?

Same way the two boys didn't hear anything.

 

[yllek]

Right now, whether the guns were kept out in the bedroom or stored somewhere more secure, I'm not considering them relevant to finding Lisa.

If we find out that the guns were kept out because the family was involved in any risky activities or had been threatened, then I think that opens up a whole new set of possibilities as to what went down that night and what might have happened to Lisa. Nothing like that has come out in public from the parents, other witnesses, or LE. But, imo, there's a lot we still don't know.

The guns are on the back burner for me right now. Something that may or may not come into play as more facts become known.

JMO...

 

[cityslick]

In almost any murder mystery, it is almost impossible to convict w/o a body. When the parents DNA is over the house, how is anyone going to leave evidence if it were a soft kill.

But "Death" was very probable in that house. Why did the parents mislead LE when they arrived. They led them to the Baby's room and the open window. LE did not have persmission or any reason to search their bedroom..hmm. LE has stated they had conflicting information by the people involved in the case.

Now we have a cadaver dog hit in the parents' bedroom. BL most likely did not die in her bedroom and the parents were well aware of that. It is my opinion, they steered the investigation from the beginning AWAY from their bdrm. And now there is a cadaver hit. Another coincidence? How many do we have and how many people are gong to continue to find excuses for these two?

BBM

Do you actually have a link for this (not giving LE permission to search certain rooms) or is this opinion?