Police say parents are not answering vital questions

[kai]

But don't you put aside those fears and do everything possible to FIND YOUR CHILD?

Not if you already know where they are. :twocents:

 

[ketel0ne]

Arrest them!

For?
Child neglect
Endangerment

 

[MyBelle]

Not if you already know where they are. :twocents:

I agree with you and add: ....And want to stretch it out as long as possible to make forensic evaluation more difficult.

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

For?
Child neglect
Endangerment

I think the Grand Jury will go all out and hand down an indictment for murder.

JMO

 

[Tipstaff]

Watched the parents interview with Dan Abrams on GMA yesterday. Abrams said he believed the parents however as I kept watching the dad look down and to the left I could not help thinking he was not being truthful.

 

[wfgodot]

Watched the parents interview with Dan Abrams on GMA yesterday. Abrams said he believed the parents however as I kept watching the dad look down and to the left I could not help thinking he was not being truthful.

Why is that? Is looking down and to the left code for "I'm lying"?

 

[Tipstaff]

Why is that? Is looking down and to the left code for "I'm lying"?

Actually it is! Read up on signals of deception.

 

[sorrell skye]

Well, I think we've seen quite a few good 'excuses' in this thread already, I'm not going to repeat them. I will just say again... 'cooperation' means different things to different people.

I agree.

But what does "cooperation" mean to KCPD & the FBI as they have been investigating the disappearance of Baby Lisa?

Based on what I've heard & read from LE these past 2 weeks, "cooperation" means meeting with LE & answering questions & assisting LE in developing leads.

According to DB, it seems that she believes that only a confession equates with cooperation - all the while her timeline & her & JI's account of events of the night in question changes almost on a daily basis.

IMO, cooperation also means providing an accurate, consistent timeline and/or an account of events that doesn't change from day to day so that LE has a solid foundation from which to work.

 

[JeannaT]

I haven't seen any good excuse for the parents failure to cooperate with LE.
The parents told Megyn Kelly in the interview that they were refusing to allow LE to re-interview the other children. I know the definition of "refuse" and "cooperation."


JMO

I don't think it's been made really clear how long LE has already spent with the children, or whether the children are traumatized right now. They're traumatized to some degree, I'm sure with their sister being missing, but I don't know how much.

The only reason, IMHO, they want to interview the kids right now is to get the kids to change what they already said. I think we can all project what the kids said - Lisa was in her crib, they didn't hear anything, didn't see anything. I think we all pretty much can agree that's what the boys apparently said.

So the goal now would be to get the kids to move OFF that statement, and say they were covering up, and they saw or heard or know something. LE doesn't have fresh questions that they just forgot to ask, and would like the chance to ask something completely different, i.e., your friend's teenage brother has a couple times been rumored to have acted inappropriately with the baby, can you give us information about that?

If they were my kids, I wouldn't want to put them through that. If there WAS something completely different to ask the kids, my guess is, they'd be open to those kind of questions.

At the VERY LEAST, if these were my kids I'd insist on a CASA volunteer being in the room, and IMMEDIATELY stopping any kind of shenanigans meant to fool the kids and trick them into agreeing their mother killed Lisa, or there is evidence of that. A half hour, no-shenanigans interview with each I might approve.

The thing is, they've lost their precious baby girl. They're trying to hold together what family they have left, and LE is quite good at coming in with big wrecking balls and destroying families in order to try to get them to turn on each other.

 

[Lera213]

WATER BOARD TIME...OK only kidding, I need a nap

 

[Lera213]

children often repeat what they hear!

 

[JeannaT]

I agree.

But what does "cooperation" mean to KCPD & the FBI as they have been investigating the disappearance of Baby Lisa?

Based on what I've heard & read from LE these past 2 weeks, "cooperation" means meeting with LE & answering questions & assisting LE in developing leads.

According to DB, it seems that she believes that only a confession equates with cooperation.

IMO, cooperation also means providing an accurate, consistent timeline and/or an account of events that doesn't change from day to day so that LE has a solid foundation from which to work.

She's the one who's been in the room with that LE, Sorrell Sky. She's the one who would know best what it is they want her to say, to "cooperate". We weren't there.

 

[LietKynes]

"All the people you list still cooperated with law enforcement. There is absolutely no excuse for Lisa's parents to stop cooperating when the child is still missing. No excuse for their refusal to allow police to re-interview the brothers. These are not acts of innocence. "
-- respectfully snipped from MyBelle
@MyBelle, your post reminded me of Amber Duboise' stepfather and how Ambers' mom had said the police told her he(stepdad) couldn't be ruled out ; yet it turned out the perp was someone else entirely. For anyone not familiar with that case I can provide a link to the video discussing this case. As far as I know, Ambers' stepdad did cooperate with LE.

My questions about the innocence of Lisas' mom are this: How did she not remember the trip to the store earlier in the day until the store receipt was found ? How did she not remember the time she put Lisa down to sleep ? Etc.

Years ago my best friends' sister and the sisters' husband were killed during a home invasion. When I received news about this over the phone I can still recall exactly what I was doing at that moment, much less what the day was like.( And this crime didn't even happen to myself or my family!) That horrible call from another of my friends' relatives is one I remember to this day -- the person who called was a normally friendly and upbeat person, and I barely recognized her voice.


Sorry this is such a long post, but my point is ; everything that DB did, saw, said to anyone on that day should be imprinted in her mind. It seems like we remember clearly the negative things in life, more than positive events. There shouldn't have been a memory lapse about the store trip or anything else, imo. The events of that day should be clear until the time she may have blacked out from the wine.
LE can mess up , but they wouldn't have focused on DB if she had told them everything she did the day Lisa went missing. I'd think LE would have asked her to 'walk them' through the entire day right from the start of it. Anything you don't tell LE is going to get their attention.

jmo

 

[Lera213]

Worked in a school, 1st, 2nd graders really repeat a lot of what they hear and see. I had one little girl describe how her mother was sleeping with a man on the couch, not the father and described in great detail what they were doing.

I also had a child standing next to her mother and said out loud "Look mommy her nails are real and pretty, yours are fake and ugly"

 

[MamaK]

I think the Grand Jury will go all out and hand down an indictment for murder.

JMO

Based on what? I'm not trying to be snarky or anything. I'm just curious what kind of evidence you think they have.

 

[Curious Me]

Why is that? Is looking down and to the left code for "I'm lying"?

How to spot a liar video
http://www.ted.com/talks/pamela_meyer_how_to_spot_a_liar.html

 

[JeannaT]

Worked in a school, 1st, 2nd graders really repeat a lot of what they hear and see. I had one little girl describe how her mother was sleeping with a man on the couch, not the father and described in great detail what they were doing.

I also had a child standing next to her mother and said out loud "Look mommy her nails are real and pretty, yours are fake and ugly"

My 7 year old son had his entire class convinced he had twin sisters in college, including the teacher. Regaled his teacher with all kinds of funny stuff the older girls did. When I was single and working my Mom came to visit and the little 6 year old girl next door in the apartment came over and told my mom I sleep all day and don't ever get up til late afternoon. ??? I was working 8-5. Kids say the darndest things. They have been proven, over and over, to be EXTREMELY suggestable - it's very easy to get them to say and believe whatever you want them to.

 

[liz b.]

I don't think it's been made really clear how long LE has already spent with the children, or whether the children are traumatized right now. They're traumatized to some degree, I'm sure with their sister being missing, but I don't know how much.

The only reason, IMHO, they want to interview the kids right now is to get the kids to change what they already said. I think we can all project what the kids said - Lisa was in her crib, they didn't hear anything, didn't see anything. I think we all pretty much can agree that's what the boys apparently said.

So the goal now would be to get the kids to move OFF that statement, and say they were covering up, and they saw or heard or know something. LE doesn't have fresh questions that they just forgot to ask, and would like the chance to ask something completely different, i.e., your friend's teenage brother has a couple times been rumored to have acted inappropriately with the baby, can you give us information about that?

If they were my kids, I wouldn't want to put them through that. If there WAS something completely different to ask the kids, my guess is, they'd be open to those kind of questions.

At the VERY LEAST, if these were my kids I'd insist on a CASA volunteer being in the room, and IMMEDIATELY stopping any kind of shenanigans meant to fool the kids and trick them into agreeing their mother killed Lisa, or there is evidence of that. A half hour, no-shenanigans interview with each I might approve.

The thing is, they've lost their precious baby girl. They're trying to hold together what family they have left, and LE is quite good at coming in with big wrecking balls and destroying families in order to try to get them to turn on each other.

I read that Deb herself said that the boys said that they did hear something going on that night... and presumably this is what they told LE when they were interviewed. MOO

 

[wfgodot]

How to spot a liar video
http://www.ted.com/talks/pamela_meyer_how_to_spot_a_liar.html

Thank you. I'm familiar with the overall concept but really don't accept its value. Will watch though.

 

[MyBelle]

I don't think it's been made really clear how long LE has already spent with the children, or whether the children are traumatized right now. They're traumatized to some degree, I'm sure with their sister being missing, but I don't know how much.

The only reason, IMHO, they want to interview the kids right now is to get the kids to change what they already said. I think we can all project what the kids said - Lisa was in her crib, they didn't hear anything, didn't see anything. I think we all pretty much can agree that's what the boys apparently said.

So the goal now would be to get the kids to move OFF that statement, and say they were covering up, and they saw or heard or know something. LE doesn't have fresh questions that they just forgot to ask, and would like the chance to ask something completely different, i.e., your friend's teenage brother has a couple times been rumored to have acted inappropriately with the baby, can you give us information about that?

If they were my kids, I wouldn't want to put them through that. If there WAS something completely different to ask the kids, my guess is, they'd be open to those kind of questions.

At the VERY LEAST, if these were my kids I'd insist on a CASA volunteer being in the room, and IMMEDIATELY stopping any kind of shenanigans meant to fool the kids and trick them into agreeing their mother killed Lisa, or there is evidence of that. A half hour, no-shenanigans interview with each I might approve.

The thing is, they've lost their precious baby girl. They're trying to hold together what family they have left, and LE is quite good at coming in with big wrecking balls and destroying families in order to try to get them to turn on each other.

If the parents are responsible for Lisa's "missing" status, then they alone are the ones who have brought the big wrecking ball to their lives. Blaming it on LE won't change anything. Just makes themselves look worse in the eyes of the public.

JMO