POLL ADDED Connect The Dots-Working theories thread #2

What is your theory in Kyron's disappearance?

  • Terri alone is responsible for Kyron's disappearance and it was unplanned, an accident.

    Votes: 3 1.1%
  • Terri alone is responsible for Kyron's disappearance and it was planned.

    Votes: 43 15.8%
  • Terri is responsible for Kyron's disappearance, it was unplanned and DeDe was called for help

    Votes: 38 13.9%
  • Terri is responsible for Kyron's disappearance, it was planned and DeDe helped plan it.

    Votes: 108 39.6%
  • A stranger abducted Kyron. (Stranger being ANYONE except Terri, DeDe or accomplice.)

    Votes: 20 7.3%
  • Kyron is still at the school or somewhere around the school grounds

    Votes: 2 0.7%
  • A stranger abducted Kyron or Kyron is still at the school or somewhere around school grounds.

    Votes: 12 4.4%
  • No idea

    Votes: 47 17.2%

  • Total voters
    273
  • Poll closed .
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If Terri did something to Kyron I believe she was in a horrible marriage where she felt that she had to do everything for the kids and had no real attention. Maybe she thought she was about to be dumped for another woman, left penniless, and have her child taken from her after having taken care of a man's kid for years after giving up working. Maybe sort of karma. If she did something harmful she may have either set up ADD as a reason for Kyron wandering off and going missing, she's psycho and made sure Kaine wouldn't have him after she raised him, or he acted up at the school and she took him out for punishment until 10am and ended up physically harming him. From all I've read, Kyron should have been with his mother and only his mother IMO.
 
Connecting the Dots....

If it is LE setting TM up, then they are trying to find Kyron.
If LE is responsible for the set ups then TH is quite possibly guilty of Kyron's disappearance.


If it is not LE setting TM up, then I have to ask........
It is interesting the results of each set up
1. The Landscaper.........results RO, Custody, and Divorce
2. Mr. C.......................results adds to Divorce
If LE is not responsible for these set ups, then I have to believe TH is not responsible for Kyron's disappearance. And that she was set up.


I might also add that Mr. C. is an interesting choice as he was KH's friend.
The Landscaper is interesting in that she did put in an ad looking for one, but the ad was in April I believe, and the Landscaper apparently goes back to Nov/Dec 2009.
Is the Nov/Dec 2009 a lie ? Or do the problems in this blended family go back to Nov/Dec 2009 or further.

That's where I am at , at this point.
 
I can't connect the dots because I only have half of them. For every action there is a reaction.

In my opinion, something stinks, big time in this case.

Edited to add: I'm taking time off from this case because this one-sided, persecute Terri crap is more than I can deal with. I don't know her guilt or innocence, but from what I'm seeing, it takes two or more to tango.

My opinion only
 
One dot one my mind that stood out to me I remember Kain saying he had no idea she was unhappy with him just that after her daughter was born she was depressed.We already know this but for some reason that point is on my mind. Did she have an agenda from the start? That would bring me back to the first dot...her being the nanny.
 
One dot one my mind that stood out to me I remember Kain saying he had no idea she was unhappy with him just that after her daughter was born she was depressed.We already know this but for some reason that point is on my mind. Did she have an agenda from the start? That would bring me back to the first dot...her being the nanny.

Does'nt it seem like it? I just don't think the original plan in her head was having to "off" either her husband or his son. I think those options entered into her plan until after she gave birth and realized that nothing can make another human love you the way you think you deserve. imo I don't know if Kaine is/was a horrible partner but it's such a short amount of time to go from helping to take care of kid to soliciting murder and disappearing step son.imo
 
hmmm..this is a very disturbing situation and it gets stranger every day..ok this is a theory..TH is also able to read media these past couple years..if and a big if because there is no proof..but if..she is a csi fan maybe she thought she would outsmart police...maybe she took him to the island and then home and something went out of kelter there or she had planned it..She is very strong physically and it wouldn't have taken much to hurt this sweet boy..whether it was accidental or planned ..then it would be easiest and safest to just dispose on property or trash recepticle..everyone would be looking at the school...do perps always do what is quick, familar and easy...have they had teams search the property or nearby home..or landfills where thier home trash would be disposed..my hope and wish is that theory is absolutely wrong!!
TH has certainly heard of the CA murder case and maybe she thought she would be alot smarter about it??? :banghead:
 
I still am not getting to any premeditated murder, even with all of the new "leaks" or whatever they are. I just don't see that, or any motive for it that makes any sense to me. I've seen lots of potential motives here but to murder a child, I'm just not seeing it.

An accident or overly harsh punishment that resulted in death, maybe. If Terri is involved, that is what I think happened, followed by a whole mess of bad to worse judgement. But I am really hoping that Terri is not their only possibility in this case, as it grows colder.
 
Enlightening to read all of your theories. Thanks, everyone, for your input.

IMO, I just don't see how TH can't be involved at this point. There has been turmoil within that household over the last six months. Her teenage son moves out (why? perhaps just to escape the madness). Affairs are happening left and right. She tries to hire the yard guy to murder her husband (Kyron's father). She is unstable, detached from reality, capable of causing violence (or attempting to) upon family members. And then...Kyron disappears. These are the dots for me, and they all point back to TH. It just seems incredulous that Kyron's disappearance would be unrelated to all that had been going on with that family over the past months.

Sadly, I do not think Kyron is alive. Whether TH harmed him in a fit of rage or it was more premeditated I have not yet decided. I can see both scenarios as being plausible. What I don't see as plausible is a 3rd party being involved, i.e., TH selling Kyron (to whom? how would she find such an interested party? over the internet? just like that? did she just walk up to someone on the street, figuratively speaking, like she did the lawn guy, and ask them if they wanted to buy her stepson?), TH handing Kyron over to a third person for safekeeping or to be killed (again, who? what would be the benefit to that person? who in the world would agree to such a crime? and why?), or a 3rd party such as the lawn guy taking Kyron for ransom (I don't think bungling criminals with that level of stupidity really exist outside of Hollywood B movies).

Following the principle that the simplest explanation is often the correct one, IMO I see TH killing Kyron either in a fit of rage or in a premeditated plot cooked up in the fog of mental illness/detached reality to hurt her husband or out of hate/resentment toward Kyron. Whenever anyone goes missing, adult or child, someone close to the person is usually the culprit, more than nine times out of ten. Although this case has some crazy components, I don't see it as being extraordinary in that regard. And a mentally unstable stepmother who tried to hire someone to murder her husband several months prior snapping and harming her stepson is much more likely, IMO, than a desperate, crazed, and bolder than bold pedophile entering an elementary school and snatching a 7-year old child without anyone noticing anything out of the ordinary.

All JMO, and how this will end remains to be seen, but I will say one thing I'm sure about - this case has only reinforced my extreme dislike of Facebook!! I'm proud to say I've never had a page on that site and never will. (What is this I read about Kyron having had a page on there? A 7-year old needs social networking? Aaaggghhh!!!!)
 
I agree about the FB sites on this case...I have made the mistake of looking at some of them and they make me so angry. I am always relieved that WS does not allow all of that BS.

I too do not see a scenario where Kyron is being "held" someplace by someone known to Terri. I think this is something that Kyron's parents have to cling to, and Desiree stating that she believes Kyron is alive has led many to think she knows a lot more. I take it from LE's statement that they consider Kyron to be alive only because they have not been able to prove otherwise as a gentle way of putting it; I don't think they believe that.

Terri is becoming clearer to us and it becomes less likely to me that she would know anyone who would help her do this and stand by her this long, by not giving up Kyron. She has no money apparently so I don't see how she paid someone to take him, and as far as "selling" him...well that is pretty far-fetched.

Just because we are learning lots of weird stuff in this case does not make me think that whatever happened to Kyron is anything but a tragedy we have seen many times before. Look at all the weird stuff in the Haleigh case, and yet I think that one too, comes down to someone in the family harming (killing) the child. Tragically simple.
 
I, too see this in many ways like the Haleigh Cummings case. And the circus going on around the missing child is quickly becoming to resemble that of Satsuma. The statement from LE also is much like PCSO's statement for many months following Haleigh disappearing, its the exact same, "We believe she/he is alive because nothing in this investigation has proven to us otherwise"...

Yet we all know Haleigh is now considered a victim of an open homicide investigation, but still after all the shananigans there still is no proof that she is dead! (Though we all know that she is)...

I just fear that little Kyron seems to headed toward the same long, drawn out injustice while the dysfunction that surrounded him only seems to grow.
 
I, too see this in many ways like the Haleigh Cummings case. And the circus going on around the missing child is quickly becoming to resemble that of Satsuma. The statement from LE also is much like PCSO's statement for many months following Haleigh disappearing, its the exact same, "We believe she/he is alive because nothing in this investigation has proven to us otherwise"...

Yet we all know Haleigh is now considered a victim of an open homicide investigation, but still after all the shananigans there still is no proof that she is dead! (Though we all know that she is)...

I just fear that little Kyron seems to headed toward the same long, drawn out injustice while the dysfunction that surrounded him only seems to grow.

This case has far too many things in common with Haleigh's case, including a female who may hold the "key", and in neither case does this female seem to be one who gives up as easily as LE hoped or expected. The adults in both cases are overshadowing the fact of the missing child, even if in Kyron's case, some of them do not mean to. And LE is so mysterious in both cases that people either believe they know all and are ready to pounce, or know nothing...not much in between. And both cases had LE in tears at press conferences...
 
There are so many possible theories. With all the speculation and twist and turns in this case, I still don't know what to think of it. It's becoming a soap opera more than it is a criminal investigation (at least in the media). Kyron is so much like my own son and I think that's why I'm a little more connected to this case than most other cases involving missing children. Based on what DY said, his personality is a LOT like my sons'. I cry and pray every night for this sweet boy. Really, the only theory I WANT to come up with, is one where he is still alive and unharmed.

:heart:
 
I, too see this in many ways like the Haleigh Cummings case. And the circus going on around the missing child is quickly becoming to resemble that of Satsuma. The statement from LE also is much like PCSO's statement for many months following Haleigh disappearing, its the exact same, "We believe she/he is alive because nothing in this investigation has proven to us otherwise"...

Yet we all know Haleigh is now considered a victim of an open homicide investigation, but still after all the shananigans there still is no proof that she is dead! (Though we all know that she is)...

I just fear that little Kyron seems to headed toward the same long, drawn out injustice while the dysfunction that surrounded him only seems to grow.

Satsuma: Misty Croslin/Cummings is not Haleigh's mother
All Misty wants is Ron & his/her child
Misty resents/jealous of natural mother, Crystal. (her freedom)
Does not want to be 'babysitter'

Orlando: Casey Anthony
Unknown/not sure of father of child?
Anger towards true father for being absent? Rejection...
Caylee reminds Casey of true father.
Sexy photos on phone, internet
(IMO) Casey viewed herself as the 'babysitter' of Cindy's child...

Terri, IMO viewed herself as 'babysitter' of Kyron? For Kaine...
Possible affairs with men? Her need to go to gym to 'work out'? 'He's' there?
Terri wants only her Baby K and true father.

Susan Smith: Wanted boyfriend & no children (his choice)

Is a MAN worth it all?

None of these women got their man!
 
Unfortunately if it wasn't premeditated I would assume they would have found the body by now. I too could see a situation where a mother accidentally snapped or ran him over with the car backing up in the parking lot. Even letting him slip on some rocks and hit his head and then being worried about being blamed for it.

But to me if that was the case she would have been completely unprepared with regard to dealing with his body. Therefor in my opinion it must have been premeditated.

MOO
 
Usually "connect the dots" means:

Follow the money or follow the romance or both.
 
One dot one my mind that stood out to me I remember Kain saying he had no idea she was unhappy with him just that after her daughter was born she was depressed.We already know this but for some reason that point is on my mind. Did she have an agenda from the start? That would bring me back to the first dot...her being the nanny.

If I had a nickel for every guy who said ""I was happy'''' when his wife announces she wasn't -- I'd be sooooo rich. I think he was on guy planet and was happy that things were ''managed'' at home for the most part.
 
Satsuma: Misty Croslin/Cummings is not Haleigh's mother
All Misty wants is Ron & his/her child
Misty resents/jealous of natural mother, Crystal. (her freedom)
Does not want to be 'babysitter'

Orlando: Casey Anthony
Unknown/not sure of father of child?
Anger towards true father for being absent? Rejection...
Caylee reminds Casey of true father.
Sexy photos on phone, internet
(IMO) Casey viewed herself as the 'babysitter' of Cindy's child...

Terri, IMO viewed herself as 'babysitter' of Kyron? For Kaine...
Possible affairs with men? Her need to go to gym to 'work out'? 'He's' there?
Terri wants only her Baby K and true father.

Susan Smith: Wanted boyfriend & no children (his choice)

Is a MAN worth it all?

None of these women got their man!

Um, Casey didn't give a crap who the father of her child was. Her entire motivation was hatred for her mother who was practically raising Caylee while Casey did nothing but starve for attention. Now she did jump from bed to bed quite a bit, but never really tied herself down to a man because they would end up loving Caylee more than her. Casey's case was too much attention on her own child, and Casey couldn't stand it. The father of the child has never had anything to do with it. I do agree that she felt like more a nanny to her own child than the child's mother though. That is spot on.

Now the other two I totally agree on. You nailed them on the head.
 
Springfield, Oregon: Diane Downs
Wanted BF and no kids (his choice)


[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diane_Downs[/ame]
 
Um, Casey didn't give a crap who the father of her child was. Her entire motivation was hatred for her mother who was practically raising Caylee while Casey did nothing but starve for attention. Now she did jump from bed to bed quite a bit, but never really tied herself down to a man because they would end up loving Caylee more than her. Casey's case was too much attention on her own child, and Casey couldn't stand it. The father of the child has never had anything to do with it. I do agree that she felt like more a nanny to her own child than the child's mother though. That is spot on.

Now the other two I totally agree on. You nailed them on the head.

I totally disagree with your first point....
Any woman would need to know who her child's father is....
Casey only cried over one man-B. Snow.
 
I am so baffled by this, but I posted this earlier and wonder if anyone has said this before, here goes, does anyone think that maybe the substitute or teacher that said Kyron went to the the restroom or went to get a drink was correct? Maybe he went into a restroom and someone held him there until everyone was back in class after the bell rang and then left with him? Something is so strange about this. It seems to me that if TH took him someone would have surely seen it.
 
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