Poll for the Armchair Psychologists

[SMK]

Sleuthing IS encouraged :cheer:
Baiting is not :drama: :notgood:

Then why do so many become irate when questions are raised - and when things that are far from clear are declared beyond discussion? If what I say is wrong, then rebuke that: But if what I am saying is in keeping with the facts here, then no rebuke can change that.

 

[shelley921]

Speaking from personal experience, I have NEVER seen a man refuse sex due to emotional goobly-goo.
If one is throwing it their way (so to speak) and there is a history of good chemistry in that department then well, you know........:blushing:

right...but by this time Jodi had slashed tires 3x, stolen, stalked and done a lot of other strange things that amounted to more than "emotional goobly-goo". and don't forget the may 24 phone call or texts in which Travis had called her a sociopath and told her she was the worst thing that had ever happened to him and he never wanted to see her again.....

don't you think we all have our limits ?

i just think that he had HAD IT with jodi. i think he did not know she was coming & that she entered his home without him knowing and surprised him. i'm sure SHE wanted to have sex but he refused. it's ok we do not have to agree - it's my opinion and you have yours. plenty agree with me and plenty agree with you.

 

[christee]

Then why do so many become irate when questions are raised - and when things that are far from clear are declared beyond discussion? If what I say is wrong, then rebuke that: But if what I am saying is in keeping with the facts here, then no rebuke can change that.

Some facts being supposedly sleuthed are facts proven during the trial, such as the time stamps on the photos. There is extensive and numerous discussions within the forum about the camera, photos and the Exif info.
In this case the camera, photos and sex between 2 CONSENTING adults (who NOT forced into having sex with each other) has nothing to do with the topic of this thread...something which causes the mods a certain amount of frustration, and understandably so. anic:

This thread has some good info about the camera's specs:
The camera - is it possible for it to go off on its own? - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

:seeya:

 

[SMK]

Some facts being supposedly sleuthed are facts proven during the trial, such as the time stamps on the photos. There is extensive and numerous discussions within the forum about the camera, photos and the Exif info.
In this case the camera, photos and sex between 2 CONSENTING adults (who NOT forced into having sex with each other) has nothing to do with the topic of this thread...something which causes the mods a certain amount of frustration, and understandably so. anic:

This thread has some good info about the camera's specs:
The camera - is it possible for it to go off on its own? - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

:seeya:

Understood. Thank you for the link.

 

[human]

Speaking from personal experience, I have NEVER seen a man refuse sex due to emotional goobly-goo.
If one is throwing it their way (so to speak) and there is a history of good chemistry in that department then well, you know........:blushing:

I cannot see that two naked people of that age bracket did not have sex. Why be naked?

I am still mystified. He tells her that she is the worst thing, etc. Yet, he has what should be a spiritual type of experience with her according to his beliefs.

Am I to believe that men have no restraints?

That is why women in Saudi Arabia, for instance, are required to wear body coverings. So their beauty does not seduce men.

Are the Saudis right? Men cannot control themselves?

 

[MeeBee]

The idea is that she is an obsessive stalker of Travis.

Surely she could find a place that was much closer than CA .

And Mesa is a big place and Phoenix even bigger. There had to be plenty of opportunities for her.

It's not like living at her grandparents was a dream come true.

There are a lot of things she could have done in Phoenix.

With her gift for lying, getting a job or even staying with some other guy would have been no problem. With her sexiness, she could have gone to a bar and picked up many guys.

Or, why not move back with Darryl? He obviously still cares about her.

The move makes no sense to me

It makes perfect sense to me.

She was not trying to extract herself from the relationship. She moved to CA and continued hacking his emails, facebook, MySpace, sending messages to herself from his accounts and deleting emails. Who went to whom?

The move was a ploy. She expected Travis to hear how broke and desperate she was and beg her to stay. It didn't work. He was happy to see her go because he didn't want her to move there in the first place. A friend was in the car with him when he was arguing about her first move to Mesa and he was saying to her, "Why would you move to Mesa? We broke up, we're not together anymore." So I am not just saying this. This happened.

She sends her mother back home so the mom cannot help her leave and Jodi tells Travis she's stuck and has no place to go and is going to sleep in her truck. Manipulation. Of course he's going to ask her to stay the night because he's nice that way. Jodi knows how to play on people's sympathy. But she ends up staying four days instead of just the night. Finally he tells her you have to go.

It's a manipulation. All of it. He didn't do what she wanted and this compounded her growing anger toward him. Nothing was working. He wanted out.

I also am of the belief that the move was part of her premeditation. It was part of her alibi. When the murder she was considering went down, she could say, "But I wasn't even living in Mesa anymore and was on a road trip to see friends at the time and didn't even go through Arizona. See I have the receipts to prove it!"

 

[MeeBee]

I cannot see that two naked people of that age bracket did not have sex. Why be naked?

I am still mystified. He tells her that she is the worst thing, etc. Yet, he has what should be a spiritual type of experience with her according to his beliefs.

Am I to believe that men have no restraints?

That is why women in Saudi Arabia, for instance, are required to wear body coverings. So their beauty does not seduce men.

Are the Saudis right? Men cannot control themselves?

How many times did Jodi talk about Travis abusing her and then she says, "but I went back anyway. I liked him and I liked the sex." She says she found him with child and she still went back. Jodi gets a pass on this because she's a woman. Travis doesn't because he was a man.

I hear this all the time. Sociopaths are so good at manipulation and making YOU feel like the crazy one. She cries and says she's sorry, she's messed up, she's suicidal and he goes back. He had feelings for her and he was having trouble separating from them and from her.

We don't know what happened on June 4th and how she ended up in his bed. She could have told him, I'm moving on but how about one last time, for old times sake? To remember each other by? We could do that sex tape thing for posterity. Maybe he did it to placate her, given he had grown afraid of her by then. Maybe he just couldn't help himself.

It does sound like she was sneaking around the house or something that morning from the story she tells. Either peeking in the windows or something else. I don't know if he knew she was coming or not, but I don't think she was invited. She looks to have used that 200 dollar check as a way to get in as well.

 

[lil_buddy]

It makes perfect sense to me.

She was not trying to extract herself from the relationship. She moved to CA and continued hacking his emails, facebook, MySpace, sending messages to herself from his accounts and deleting emails. Who went to whom?

The move was a ploy. She expected Travis to hear how broke and desperate she was and beg her to stay. It didn't work. He was happy to see her go because he didn't want her to move there in the first place. A friend was in the car with him when he was arguing about her first move to Mesa and he was saying to her, "Why would you move to Mesa? We broke up, we're not together anymore." So I am not just saying this. This happened.

She sends her mother back home so the mom cannot help her leave and Jodi tells Travis she's stuck and has no place to go and is going to sleep in her truck. Manipulation. Of course he's going to ask her to stay the night because he's nice that way. Jodi knows how to play on people's sympathy. But she ends up staying four days instead of just the night. Finally he tells her you have to go.

It's a manipulation. All of it. He didn't do what she wanted and this compounded her growing anger toward him. Nothing was working. He wanted out.

I also am of the belief that the move was part of her premeditation. It was part of her alibi. When the murder she was considering went down, she could say, "But I wasn't even living in Mesa anymore and was on a road trip to see friends at the time and didn't even go through Arizona. See I have the receipts to prove it!"

:goodpost:
Wow! A plausible theory!!!
I can't even remember the last time I saw one of those.
Thank You!!!!!
:rockon:

:bowdown:

 

[Emmi]

How many times did Jodi talk about Travis abusing her and then she says, "but I went back anyway. I liked him and I liked the sex." She says she found him with child and she still went back. Jodi gets a pass on this because she's a woman. Travis doesn't because he was a man.

I hear this all the time. Sociopaths are so good at manipulation and making YOU feel like the crazy one. She cries and says she's sorry, she's messed up, she's suicidal and he goes back. He had feelings for her and he was having trouble separating from them and from her.

We don't know what happened on June 4th and how she ended up in his bed. She could have told him, I'm moving on but how about one last time, for old times sake? To remember each other by? We could do that sex tape thing for posterity. Maybe he did it to placate her, given he had grown afraid of her by then. Maybe he just couldn't help himself.

It does sound like she was sneaking around the house or something that morning from the story she tells. Either peeking in the windows or something else. I don't know if he knew she was coming or not, but I don't think she was invited. She looks to have used that 200 dollar check as a way to get in as well.

"Jodi gets a pass"? I missed that part, when Jodi got the pass.

 

[MeeBee]

"Jodi gets a pass"? I missed that part, when Jodi got the pass.

I have chosen not to respond to sarcasm and condescension. Make an actual argument and I'll respond.

 

[MeeBee]

:goodpost:
Wow! A plausible theory!!!
I can't even remember the last time I saw one of those.
Thank You!!!!!
:rockon:

:bowdown:

And the frustrating part is the ones who act like this is a random act of villainization of a pretty, battered woman led by the charge of Nancy Grace and HLN. It's maddening. This is not about a witch hunt. It's the evidence presented.

On the day the pedophilia incident, the texts show it could not have happened. She forged the letters in her cell. The next day she said Travis asked to borrow money and when she didn't have it he knocked her down and kicked her and broke her finger. The texts from that day show he was the one who loaned her money. She thanked him and said she'd repay him, so we know that's what it was.

Her stories of abuse and other events are constantly changing. For instance, the rope that was brought up. First Jodi said that Travis cut the rope after sex after she decided she didn't want to be tied up anymore. Realizing the knife needed to be in the bathroom, she changed her story and said he used it to cut the rope in the bathroom and tied her hands with "nooses" that she could easily slip out of, thus he didn't need to bring the knife back and cut her out of it.

Jodi has proven herself over and over and over again to be a liar, a manipulator, and finally, a murderer. People aren't just saying this. The evidence is there. It confounds me when people are chastised for not choosing to believe a liar and a manipulator. It's misplaced outrage, imho. People tend not to believe those kinds of people. Especially when two years later is when she changes her story to abuse when she realizes this would be more beneficial to her. There's secondary gain there. When someone suggests two years later that the victim of the murder they clearly premeditated abused them, it must be taken with a grain of salt. Until I see some actual, legitimate proof, other than Jodi's word that this was an abusive relationship, I am going to have no choice but to believe that it is more lies and manipulation.

And isn't it a remarkable that the one person Travis said he was afraid of, the one person he told others may kill him actually is the person who ends up taking his life?

Also, when people suggest that Jodi didn't live with Travis and didn't have any kids or other ties to him, it isn't to say that she couldn't have been abused or a person in that situation could not be abused. I have had friends who were abused by their BFs. But it does negate the killing to get out of a situation she could not get out of. She was already out and Travis had no control over her life in any way, other than that she just could not get over him. So even if you do believe she was abused, that does not negate the premeditation aspect of the crime. This was not a case of a woman who had no choice to kill. She chose to kill. So don't mix the two arguments.

 

[Emmi]

I have chosen not to respond to sarcasm and condescension. Make an actual argument and I'll respond.

I'm certainly not taking a superior attitude. But I'm gobsmacked when I hear the claim that Jodi, as a woman (and here representative of social attitudes toward women), has somehow gotten away with sexual behaviours that men would never get away with. She hasn't gotten a pass on that, or anything for that matter; but forgive me for failing to apply the brakes on my sarcasm at the very idea that she has. She's been completely vilified, not even primarily for being a murderer, but for being a lying, s-word murderess, and all that feminization of the word implies. And everywhere one looks--it can't be missed--the hatred for her has been graphically sexualized.

I keep hearing, on the one hand, that men just cannot resist when sex is dangled in front of their noses and that we can't hold that against them. Then I'm hearing that only men are held accountable for their questionable sexual behaviour, while women get a free pass because they're women, and they, the women, are enjoying this special privilege, this double standard, at the expense of oppressed men--who, by the way, can't help themselves.

When did this happen that, all else being equal, women are escaping judgement while men are being condemned? I see no evidence of this great inequality with men as the underdogs. So I asked: when was Jodi, just because she's a woman, given a free pass?

 

[MeeBee]

I'm certainly not taking a superior attitude. But I'm gobsmacked when I hear the claim that Jodi, as a woman (and here representative of social attitudes toward women), has somehow gotten away with sexual behaviours that men would never get away with. She hasn't gotten a pass on that, or anything for that matter; but forgive me for failing to apply the brakes on my sarcasm at the very idea that she has. She's been completely vilified, not even primarily for being a murderer, but for being a lying, s-word murderess, and all that feminization of the word implies. And everywhere one looks--it can't be missed--the hatred for her has been graphically sexualized.

I keep hearing, on the one hand, that men just cannot resist when sex is dangled in front of their noses and that we can't hold that against them. Then I'm hearing that only men are held accountable for their questionable sexual behaviour, while women get a free pass because they're women, and they, the women, are enjoying this special privilege, this double standard, at the expense of oppressed men--who, by the way, can't help themselves.

When did this happen that, all else being equal, women are escaping judgement while men are being condemned? I see no evidence of this great inequality with men as the underdogs. So I asked: when was Jodi, just because she's a woman, given a free pass?

Well, you're changing my argument, for one. My comment about the free pass was about going back to her abuser. People say Travis could not have been stalked or abused by Jodi because he still called her and had sex with her and remains friends with her. It had nothing to do with Travis having sex with Jodi because it was there and Jodi being a . When Jodi goes back to her abuser it's because she's scared and fragile and crazy in love. When Travis does it, it's because he was lying and must not actually have been as tormented as he actually was.

You'll also never hear me call anyone a . Grown ups are free to do what they want with their sex lives. I really don't care what Jodi did or didn't do with her body and who she bedded.

But again, that's not the argument people are making here. This is not about Jodi being a and shaming her. This is about Jodi using sex as a tool and then flipping it around on Travis, making him a deviant who demanded sex from her. From the texts I have seen, Travis never propositions her for sex. And that's just from what I've seen. He's shared fantasies with her and sent her naughty texts so yes, this implies that he's sexually attracted to her and enjoys the sex. But Jodi more than once offered herself to him. We never see him ask her to dress like a school girl or ejaculate on her face. She offers it and asks for it with gusto.

Giving Jodi a pass for her willing and eager participation in the sex with Travis is setting women back. She chose to have sex with him and she admits it was always consentual. Now she says that it was all Travis and she was manipulated and coerced to participate with him. That is a dangerous thing. And Travis is not here to defend himself. It does seem very much like she used sex as a weapon and a tool with men. Her texts to him are overtly sexual. In their phone conversation, she constantly steers the conversation toward sex. Other men and people that knew her have said similar things about her. She used her body to get what she wanted.

Also, the reason people are saying that Travis couldn't resist sex with Jodi is because of a culmination of things. He never drove out of his way to her. He told people that while he liked Jodi, he needed to separate from her and was trying geto out because he didn't like what he was doing with her. In their sexual encounters, she goes to him. There is a story about Travis going to Jodi's apartment, but he took a friend there to meet her. There was no sex that day. It's always at his house, except for the car sex and baptism sex. It would just seem that Jodi knew what his vice was and instead of respecting his wishes to stop having sex with her and stay so they both are not tempted anymore, she would come around with sex and he could not resist. That's not really that much of a stretch. He was very attracted to her. When she left he said he was glad because they could finally move on from each other and stop succumbing to each other. This is not to say that Travis wasn't fully willing and enjoyed the sex. I'm just looking at the factors at play. Travis really did seem to be making efforts to move on and extricate himself from this particular relationship. Jodi did not seem to be making such efforts. She can act like she was now, but she wasn't. She went back again and again and again. If she was trying exctricate herself from the sex, she would avoid going to his house and finding herself alone with him. Travis seemed to be trying to take measures to avoid that temptation. He didn't ever seem to go to her house alone. He brought friends along with their Havasupai trip because he didn't want to be alone with her.

Travis was a hypocrite. I won't lie. He had issues and his religion was hindering him. Perhaps he could have handled the situation with Jodi better. But they used each other. Jodi said as much before her story changed. They were using each other. I am not going to give Travis a pass for his sexual participation with Jodi. But at least he didn't pretend the relationship was something more than it was. He made it clear to her that he woulnd't marry her and just wanted to be friends. Jodi chose to go along with this and continue having sex with him and told him she was fine when really she was desperate to marry him. That is just more manipulation. Now when he realized that he meant more to her than she did to him and that she had an unhealthy attraction to him, he definitely should have stopped sleeping with her. She was like a drug to him. He was finding it hard. It doesn't excuse him to say that. It's just the truth. He was a drug to her too. I have more ideas on why he continued to see her and be with her after the stalking started and escalated. But this post is already long enough and that's another argument.

Lastly, when you encounter a post that you disagree with and wish to respond to, it's better to not use sarcasm. You'll get an easier time having a discussion with someone that way and getting people to understand your side. People aren't going to take what you have to say if you respond in a negative matter. I have learned a lot and have been given A LOT to think about from reading this thread from well thought and level headed posts. In hindsight, you have a point. But I think you have to look at each situation on a case by case basis. Here, it's not as simple as shaming and the man gets a pass for being a man and the woman gets shamed. There is so much at work here. And I probably didn't describe it well enough but I tried.

 

[SMK]

I'm certainly not taking a superior attitude. But I'm gobsmacked when I hear the claim that Jodi, as a woman (and here representative of social attitudes toward women), has somehow gotten away with sexual behaviours that men would never get away with. She hasn't gotten a pass on that, or anything for that matter; but forgive me for failing to apply the brakes on my sarcasm at the very idea that she has. She's been completely vilified, not even primarily for being a murderer, but for being a lying, s-word murderess, and all that feminization of the word implies. And everywhere one looks--it can't be missed--the hatred for her has been graphically sexualized.

I keep hearing, on the one hand, that men just cannot resist when sex is dangled in front of their noses and that we can't hold that against them. Then I'm hearing that only men are held accountable for their questionable sexual behaviour, while women get a free pass because they're women, and they, the women, are enjoying this special privilege, this double standard, at the expense of oppressed men--who, by the way, can't help themselves.

When did this happen that, all else being equal, women are escaping judgement while men are being condemned? I see no evidence of this great inequality with men as the underdogs. So I asked: when was Jodi, just because she's a woman, given a free pass?

She obviously was not given a free pass.

 

[Night-owl]

I'm certainly not taking a superior attitude. But I'm gobsmacked when I hear the claim that Jodi, as a woman (and here representative of social attitudes toward women), has somehow gotten away with sexual behaviours that men would never get away with. She hasn't gotten a pass on that, or anything for that matter; but forgive me for failing to apply the brakes on my sarcasm at the very idea that she has. She's been completely vilified, not even primarily for being a murderer, but for being a lying, s-word murderess, and all that feminization of the word implies. And everywhere one looks--it can't be missed--the hatred for her has been graphically sexualized.

I keep hearing, on the one hand, that men just cannot resist when sex is dangled in front of their noses and that we can't hold that against them. Then I'm hearing that only men are held accountable for their questionable sexual behaviour, while women get a free pass because they're women, and they, the women, are enjoying this special privilege, this double standard, at the expense of oppressed men--who, by the way, can't help themselves.

When did this happen that, all else being equal, women are escaping judgement while men are being condemned? I see no evidence of this great inequality with men as the underdogs. So I asked: when was Jodi, just because she's a woman, given a free pass?

Jodi Arias has certainly been given far more of "a pass" in most of this whole mess than a man in a similar situation would have been. Imagine for a moment a male who won't let go of a relationship with a female, who slashes tires, hacks computer accounts, peers through windows, drives hundreds of miles for a supposed visit, leaves the female dead, only to race off to snog up with some other woman hours later, ALL THE WHILE CLAIMING HE IS THE VICTIM. Honestly? You can see that happening? You can see domestic violence experts going on the stand to say that because the woman called him <the most vile thing you can think of> or told her friends that he was a psycho <what ever derogatory term for penis you want> that he was abused. And that he was fighting for his life after she got mad because he was taking naked pictures of her in the shower and dropped the camera.

Jodi has gotten away with trashing the victim's reputation and trying to garner sympathy (not entirely unsuccessfully either) as poor helpless abused woman. Very different than what a man could do.

There are certainly different societal expectations for males and females. Under the law, however, there should be only one set of standards. Any scorn that Jodi gets from the public at large, she deserves.

 

[SMK]

Jodi Arias has certainly been given far more of "a pass" in most of this whole mess than a man in a similar situation would have been. Imagine for a moment a male who won't let go of a relationship with a female, who slashes tires, hacks computer accounts, peers through windows, drives hundreds of miles for a supposed visit, leaves the female dead, only to race off to snog up with some other woman hours later, ALL THE WHILE CLAIMING HE IS THE VICTIM. Honestly? You can see that happening? You can see domestic violence experts going on the stand to say that because the woman called him <the most vile thing you can think of> or told her friends that he was a psycho <what ever derogatory term for penis you want> that he was abused. And that he was fighting for his life after she got mad because he was taking naked pictures of her in the shower and dropped the camera.

Jodi has gotten away with trashing the victim's reputation and trying to garner sympathy (not entirely unsuccessfully either) as poor helpless abused woman. Very different than what a man could do.

There are certainly different societal expectations for males and females. Under the law, however, there should be only one set of standards. Any scorn that Jodi gets from the public at large, she deserves.

What I meant is that the jury and the public did not buy into the self-defense theory, the abused victim theory, the Travis-as-pedophile theory: If they had, she would have gotten a free pass (aquittal on Self Defense)................ ETA: There was a case in the early 1980s where a woman, who was one of the chapter presidents of NOW, was accused of having committed a murder with her boyfriend (she had). The defense portrayed her as an abused victim and she was acquitted. Many feminists were outraged, feeling the "woman as weak victim" card was a bad thing for women's empowerment.

 

[Night-owl]

What I meant is that the jury and the public did not buy into the self-defense theory, the abused victim theory, the Travis-as-pedophile theory: If the had, she would have gotten a free pass (aquittal on Self Defense).

The very fact that she could make those claims and have a chance at them being believed is a pass. She had a free pass to get up on the stand and pretend to be the victim. A man could never have made that claim in the same situation.

 

[human]

The very fact that she could make those claims and have a chance at them being believed is a pass. She had a free pass to get up on the stand and pretend to be the victim. A man could never have made that claim in the same situation.

She can make whatever claim she wants. She had to be defended with something, so the lawyers gave it their best shot. They had nothing to work with.

She does not meet the definition of insanity, so what other options are there?

The proof is in the pudding. The jury did not buy her claims.

We have the example of Richard Ramirez who got married and had a bunch of other fans. One cannot make generalizations based on a few vocal supporters. As they say, one rabbit leaves many tracks.

I am interested in behavior and why people do things. I feel we need to learn from it.

It seems like questions cannot be asked as to why someone would do something without attaching a whole miasma of attitudes to the question.

Anyway, I am wondering what works to get a person out of an abusive situation.

For both JA and TA, people told them to get out. People told them that each was not going to fare well. That did not work.

I feel that TA used intermittent reinforcement which is the most powerful. He kept responding to her after not responding.

I have learned from that example that making a total and complete elimination of any interaction is the way to go. Never have any communication. It just encourages them.

But what to say or do to a friend that is in a horrible relationship?

The only thing I figured out was that the person needs to be kidnapped and taken to be deprogrammed. That is what parents used to do when kids got into cults.

Does anyone know why someone has left an abuser? When I worked, I saw people continue to stay. One mother was told that she would lose her children if she stayed. She chose the loser who abused her children and he did not even ever have a job. She worked a low paying hard job.

Everyone told her to leave. Everyone. She even worked with a therapist. She was nice, sweet, and was nice to her children

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

I'm certainly not taking a superior attitude. But I'm gobsmacked when I hear the claim that Jodi, as a woman (and here representative of social attitudes toward women), has somehow gotten away with sexual behaviours that men would never get away with. She hasn't gotten a pass on that, or anything for that matter; but forgive me for failing to apply the brakes on my sarcasm at the very idea that she has. She's been completely vilified, not even primarily for being a murderer, but for being a lying, s-word murderess, and all that feminization of the word implies. And everywhere one looks--it can't be missed--the hatred for her has been graphically sexualized.

I keep hearing, on the one hand, that men just cannot resist when sex is dangled in front of their noses and that we can't hold that against them. Then I'm hearing that only men are held accountable for their questionable sexual behaviour, while women get a free pass because they're women, and they, the women, are enjoying this special privilege, this double standard, at the expense of oppressed men--who, by the way, can't help themselves.

When did this happen that, all else being equal, women are escaping judgement while men are being condemned? I see no evidence of this great inequality with men as the underdogs. So I asked: when was Jodi, just because she's a woman, given a free pass?

In my personal experience, I have never seen men resist sex but I would not go as far as to say we can't hold that against them. Who has said that? Everyone (all adults) is accountable for their own choices and actions, however difficult the temptation/manipulation may be.

moo

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Jon Ronson: Strange answers to the psychopath test - YouTube

We all are a little bit psychopathic


Above video is narrated by Jon Ronson who specializes in studying psychopaths. This speech is a witty illustration about a man who faked insanity to get out of prison/penalty. Unfortunately, he ended up faking so well that he was sent to Broadmoor Hospital. Hope you take the time to check it out!

(furthermore the makers of this video have a series called TED Talks which also features other speakers like Temple Grandin. Please check out the series as it is online and is on Netflix)