POLL: How Will This Case End?

[Kentjbkent]

Sorry if this has been asked before. If Nolo happens is the DP automatically off the table?

Personally I would like it to go" Straight to trial " with LWOP so ICA can suffer.

Unfortunately, Caylee is gone forever and so many lives are ruined. There is no good ending here.

The selfish part of me wants it to go to trial and have it aired everywhere and live so we can see every squirming moment from ICA to JB et all.:angel:

I am not employed in the field of law so cannot answer your question from a legal standpoint, but can give you my personal opinion...

IF ICA were to change plea to No Contest, I do not believe Judge Perry would then sentence her to the death penalty.

Her plea would not be her personal admission of guilt, although the court system would adjucate her as guilty.

I just cannot see Perry sentencing any defendant who claims is willing to change their plea, due to an inability to refute the state's charges, to death.

JMHO

 

[Ssejors]

Straight to trial!

ICA will never admit to wrongdoing. I was quite surprised she admitted guilt to her fraud charges but then again, she was caught on camera!

She will never admit her guilt in Caylee's demise. She will take this to the end. She's got her family under her spell, Baez seems to be setting himself up for future book/movie deals and Cheney will run the circus of the year. In the end, when she is found guilty, they will continue to use the conspiracy as their downfall. The police had tunnel vision, they didn't look any further than ICA..(when we can see through the discovery, they have covered every angle)..but I am dying to hear the "compelling reason" why she never alerted authorities to an allegedly missing Caylee....I'm selfish like that, I want the details...:waitasec:

If she picks a jury and they take a field trip to see the vehicle, I believe the smell of death will still be evident and the jurors will vote guilty...however, I'm not sure they'd give her the DP being young, no violent behavior before, no arrests for violence ever..JMHO

If ICA were wise, she'd make herself a deal for LWOP and save her own skin...JMHO

ICA has become quite comfortable in her new home. No mother to tell her what to do, how to do it, when to do it...but the jail does. She is thriving in prison which makes me feel terrible...I want her to suffer as Caylee suffered in her last moments on earth...JMHO

Justice for Caylee

BBM-- But but but but!! The woman Offed her own CHILD so that she could be footloose and fancy free! That's the pure definition of Selfish and Callous, Cold hearted and Psychotic!


I think as a Juror I would vote DP All the more for that reason!

UGH SHE MAKES ME SO ANGRY!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[tygomuk]

If an Alford Plea is accepted by the court then basically the defendant is throwing themselves at the mercy of the court as to the sentence imposed.

 

[countzero]

Wow, I cant believe I am going to disagree here let alone post my thoughts. The Caylee forum is full of great minds including yourself Countzero.

BBM

I just question this happening. There is no way IMO Cindy would end up being the martyr here and go down in flames to take the heat for ICA. Nor would she "let" George. I see where you are going with this. Is it cause for a mistrial? Is it tainting the jury into doubt? Possibly. I'm beginning to question my thoughts as I type this.

Surely the Prosecution will anticipate this sort of move and have for a long time knowing Cindy's involvement as far as (wrong hair brush and washing certain clothes).

Honestly I see ICA folding and blaming her parents and a twist happening with a huge "involuntary blurt out" in court that of course the Judge will admonish the Jury to disregard.

CA definitely wants to win that role of martyr. More so, she wants to free ICA so that perhaps ICA will be indebted to her for life. Control ... is all CA is about. She knows it might put doubt into the jury. What CA doesn't know and may not know until the trial, is what physical/forensic evidence the state has that will without doubt connect ICA or an Anthony to Caylee's murder. We don't know what smoking gun the state has, if anything. CA has gotten away with so much now, that she probably feels nothing of consequence will happen to her if she "blurts" out some kinda of nonsense that she is culpable in some way.

So yes, I can see CA or GA doing just that ... desperate to get ICA off the charges. As for the SAO countering this type of action, I have faith Jeff would put cracks into it immediately. But CA doesn't think about that.

 

[Carolina Girl]

Sorry, have read no comments. I voted straight to trial. I don't think they believe she will be found guilty and have their head in the sand. They will make a huge mistake. MOO.

Wow after looking up, maybe I better read some..

 

[Sooner Fan#1]

No question in my mind and I have said from day 31...defense plea deal.

 

[SallyLu]

Straight to trial 'cos that's what Baez wants.

I don't understand why some think ICA is in control as to my mind her world is all fantasy. I haven't seen much logic or reasoning show it's face - actually from pretty much anyone involved in this (insert your choice of word) from the get go.

Who is yelling "reality check?"

Why not?

My thoughts - money and fame. That's it. Plain and simple.

 

[Itsy]

Wow, I cant believe I am going to disagree here let alone post my thoughts. The Caylee forum is full of great minds including yourself Countzero.

BBM

I just question this happening. There is no way IMO Cindy would end up being the martyr here and go down in flames to take the heat for ICA. Nor would she "let" George. I see where you are going with this. Is it cause for a mistrial? Is it tainting the jury into doubt? Possibly. I'm beginning to question my thoughts as I type this.

Surely the Prosecution will anticipate this sort of move and have for a long time knowing Cindy's involvement as far as (wrong hair brush and washing certain clothes).

Honestly I see ICA folding and blaming her parents and a twist happening with a huge "involuntary blurt out" in court that of course the Judge will admonish the Jury to disregard.

BBM - BUT, haven't both C&J stated in the past (48 Hours show, in one instance) that they would be willing to take the blame to "save" Casey? I'm curious to see if they really meant that - or was it just another "half thuth" Cindy blurted out while under the influence?? Of course, SA would have a thing or two or ten to say if that happens!

 

[Dignity4Victims]

...in a big, burning pile of donkey dung. This case is a hot mess.

Partially true, but that's only because that's what it's been turned into, not because it originally was.

What it originally was, was a typical, run-of-the-mill case of demented, selfish mom murders baby daughter, period.

Should have been in and out of court within a year, tops, but the clown car blew through and dropped off all their clowns and WHAMMO! - a hot mess.

And now, the 2 head clowns, Frick n' Frack will take this all the way to trial and bleed the State of Florida, because they're made of the same cloth as the admitted "spiteful b!tch".

 

[SallyLu]

Partially true, but that's only because that's what it's been turned into, not because it originally was.

What it originally was, was a typical, run-of-the-mill case of demented, selfish mom murders baby daughter, period.

Should have been in and out of court within a year, tops, but the clown car blew through and dropped off all their clowns and WHAMMO! - a hot mess.

And now, the 2 head clowns, Frick n' Frack will take this all the way to trial and bleed the State of Florida, because they're made of the same cloth as the admitted "spiteful b!tch".

This post doesn't need quoting or thanking.

It needs FRAMING!!!

 

[Dignity4Victims]

Straight to trial!

ICA will never admit to wrongdoing. I was quite surprised she admitted guilt to her fraud charges but then again, she was caught on camera!

She will never admit her guilt in Caylee's demise. She will take this to the end. She's got her family under her spell, Baez seems to be setting himself up for future book/movie deals and Cheney will run the circus of the year. In the end, when she is found guilty, they will continue to use the conspiracy as their downfall. The police had tunnel vision, they didn't look any further than ICA..(when we can see through the discovery, they have covered every angle)..but I am dying to hear the "compelling reason" why she never alerted authorities to an allegedly missing Caylee....I'm selfish like that, I want the details...:waitasec:

If she picks a jury and they take a field trip to see the vehicle, I believe the smell of death will still be evident and the jurors will vote guilty...however, I'm not sure they'd give her the DP being young, no violent behavior before, no arrests for violence ever..JMHO

If ICA were wise, she'd make herself a deal for LWOP and save her own skin...JMHO

ICA has become quite comfortable in her new home. No mother to tell her what to do, how to do it, when to do it...but the jail does. She is thriving in prison which makes me feel terrible...I want her to suffer as Caylee suffered in her last moments on earth...JMHO

Justice for Caylee

Don't feel guilty, I think most of us want the same thing as you do for Casey and it will come, in time. Once Casey is transferred to her new address of incarceration where "the big girls play", the lights & cameras disappear and her 'knights' are no longer fawning over her - her reality will set in, and she will suffer.

She's used to men melting at the click of her ....... fill in the blank, living on her cell 23/7, (not in her cell), surrounding herself with 'friends' as a replacement of family, coming and going as she pleases and creating her own image from bits and pieces of everyone else's specimen cup.

She'll have to actually be herself in prison - a nobody, and she won't like that one bit.

Take comfort, it's coming.

 

[cyberborg]

Partially true, but that's only because that's what it's been turned into, not because it originally was.

What it originally was, was a typical, run-of-the-mill case of demented, selfish mom murders baby daughter, period.

Should have been in and out of court within a year, tops, but the clown car blew through and dropped off all their clowns and WHAMMO! - a hot mess.

And now, the 2 head clowns, Frick n' Frack will take this all the way to trial and bleed the State of Florida, because they're made of the same cloth as the admitted "spiteful b!tch".

Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends
We're so glad you could attend
Come inside! Come inside!
There behind a glass is a real blade of grass
Be careful as you pass.
Move along! Move along!

Come inside, the show's about to start
Guaranteed to blow your head apart
Rest assured you'll get your money's worth
The greatest show in Heaven, Hell or Earth.
You've got to see the show, it's a dynamo.
You've got to see the show, it's Baez and Mason ...

Right before your eyes, we pull laughter from the skies
And he laughs until he cries, then he dies, then he dies
Come inside the show's about to start, guaranteed to blow your head apart
You've got to see the show, it's a dynamo
You've got to see the show, it's Baez and Mason ...​

 

[ZsaZsa]

I am not employed in the field of law so cannot answer your question from a legal standpoint, but can give you my personal opinion...

IF ICA were to change plea to No Contest, I do not believe Judge Perry would then sentence her to the death penalty.

Her plea would not be her personal admission of guilt, although the court system would adjucate her as guilty.

I just cannot see Perry sentencing any defendant who claims is willing to change their plea, due to an inability to refute the state's charges, to death.

JMHO

If she is guilty of a capital crime why not impose the correct penalty?
This guy just pleaded guilty the day before his trial was set to start.
The death penalty has not been removed because he decided to do that.
http://www.fox41.com/Global/story.asp?S=13324809

 

[believe09]

Actually Alford himself stood accused of 1st degree murder. North Carolina v. Alford, 400 U.S. 25 (1970)

Yup-but he pled to second and then tried to contest based upon his fear of the DP. SJC ruled against him stating he made an informed and intelligent decision.

ETA: I know Alford and nolo are used in FL, but I was not sure that they could be utilized in a DP case. Now the state, IIRC, gave her one chance at a deal and they were refused. I dont remember, but it was certainly LWOP or First Degree Murder, because second would give her a prayer at getting out. Like the original Alford received 30 years for his second degree plea.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

If she is guilty of a capital crime why not impose the correct penalty?
This guy just pleaded guilty the day before his trial was set to start.
The death penalty has not been removed because he decided to do that.
http://www.fox41.com/Global/story.asp?S=13324809

Thanks Zsa Zsa...the State prosecutors could do the same. They could say to JBP, we will accept nothing less than LWOP even as she is prepared to plead guilty. We are ready for trial NOW, so if the defendant wants to plead guilty we would accept her plea and sentence her to LWOP...His Honor would comply, IMO...JMHO

Justice for Caylee

 

[Tuffy]

I think there is too much arrogance on the part of Casey, all the Anthonys, and the defense team to end in a plea. I believe that Casey will go to her grave professing her innocence. When she is convicted the Anthonys will continue their media campaign, only switching to "Casey was wrongfully convicted!" and fueling the "Free Casey" movement. Similar to Darlie Routier.

 

[ZsaZsa]

I think there is too much arrogance on the part of Casey, all the Anthonys, and the defense team to end in a plea. I believe that Casey will go to her grave professing her innocence. When she is convicted the Anthonys will continue their media campaign, only switching to "Casey was wrongfully convicted!" and fueling the "Free Casey" movement. Similar to Darlie Routier.

So true. They have already made it their occupation ( well paid too) so I see no reason they would change, as long as ABC are willing to pay $ for their interviews and photos..:banghead:

 

[marspiter]

JB will never convince ICA to take a plea or plead no contest. ICA is totally defiant and she will never concede to her lies. She will never admit to CA that she killed Caylee.

For a plea deal I would think that the SA would want the story from ICA and ICA will never share that. That is her control, her power, over everyone as well as her parents.

For no contest there isn't the same stipulation but ICA is not going to throw herself on the mercy of the court and take LIFE.

Remember ICA was promised a mistrial and that she'd be sunning herself as a celebrity on a Miami beach soon or touring around in an RV.

IMO ... ICA is going to walk all the way down the corridor during trial to the bitter end and maybe, just maybe, while the Jury is out deliberating ... ICA might turn around and seek a last minute deal. Too late.

This.

 

[Themis]

As long as there is media money in the background of this case and as long as there are opportunities for attorneys to mold a national reputation, nobody will be giving KC the strong advice and counsel that she needs to move her towards taking a plea deal. Such legal advice and guidance would include helping her sort her fiction and the truth, helping her find the courage she needs with with respect to her mother and guiding her to admit what happened in court to support the plea. By doing so, she could probably save her own life and possibly even have a term cap and parole possibility. The irony of this case is her family is so "into" the media. The irony of that is it is the media in the case that is driving KC towards her own final destruction. As long as CA is "supporting" KC by believing and spouting KC's "version" so far, then KC can't capitulate and do what is factually, morally and legally the right thing for the defense to do in this case. The longer this goes on and the more the prosecution spends and prepares for trial, the less likely it is that KC can get off the path of self destruction.

 

[logicalgirl]

As long as there is media money in the background of this case and as long as there are opportunities for attorneys to mold a national reputation, nobody will be giving KC the strong advice and counsel that she needs to move her towards taking a plea deal. Such legal advice and guidance would include helping her sort her fiction and the truth, helping her find the courage she need with with respect to her mother and guiding her to admit what happened in court to support the plea. By doing so, she could probably save her own life and possibly even have a term cap and parole possibility. The irony of this case is her family is so "into" the media. The irony of that is it is the media in the case that is driving KC towards her own final destruction. As long as CA is "supporting" KC by believing and spouting KC's "version" so far, then KC can't capitulate and do what is factually, morally and legally the right thing for the defense to do in this case. The longer this goes on and the more the prosecution spends and prepares for trial, the less likely it is that KC can get off the path of self destruction.

WOW!

:gold_crown: