POLL: How Will This Case End?

[LiveLaughLuv]

Straight to trial!

ICA will never admit to wrongdoing. I was quite surprised she admitted guilt to her fraud charges but then again, she was caught on camera!

She will never admit her guilt in Caylee's demise. She will take this to the end. She's got her family under her spell, Baez seems to be setting himself up for future book/movie deals and Cheney will run the circus of the year. In the end, when she is found guilty, they will continue to use the conspiracy as their downfall. The police had tunnel vision, they didn't look any further than ICA..(when we can see through the discovery, they have covered every angle)..but I am dying to hear the "compelling reason" why she never alerted authorities to an allegedly missing Caylee....I'm selfish like that, I want the details...:waitasec:

If she picks a jury and they take a field trip to see the vehicle, I believe the smell of death will still be evident and the jurors will vote guilty...however, I'm not sure they'd give her the DP being young, no violent behavior before, no arrests for violence ever..JMHO

If ICA were wise, she'd make herself a deal for LWOP and save her own skin...JMHO

ICA has become quite comfortable in her new home. No mother to tell her what to do, how to do it, when to do it...but the jail does. She is thriving in prison which makes me feel terrible...I want her to suffer as Caylee suffered in her last moments on earth...JMHO

Justice for Caylee

 

[Gnatcatcher]

What an interesting poll, and what interesting varying thoughts on it! In my totally sane and non-sociopathic mind, I can't for the live of me imagine WHY she would go all the way to trial. But she has shown that she doesn't have a sane and non-sociopathic mind because she DID go all the way down to the end of the Universal hall. On the check fraud, I thought for sure she walked in the courtroom that day all set to say "prove it", and yet she did another spin around by admitting it. In the civil trial, I'm pretty sure she'll fight that one all the way. But the capital murder trial? I just don't know. I WANT it to go to trial, we all do I think, I guess from my perspective I'll vote "Straight to Trial", but from Defense side? I couldn't even begin to guess.

What about from the prosecutor's side? Do THEY want to go to trial?

 

[coco puff]

The defense will use all the free funds they can, get on as many TV shows as they can, write as many books as they can and make fun of as many reporters as they can until the night before the trail. Then they will enter a plea of no contest if the death penalty is taken off the table. They will state that there is no way she could have gotten a fair trial because of public persecution and the lying and conniving LE. They will try to be martyrs and sacrifice their day in court so that Ms. Anthony may live. Mark my words!

 

[The World According]

I agree with Richard Horsby, anyone other than Baez would try to broker a deal, but with Baez taking the lead with Casey it will go to trial.

Here, Steph Watts asks him if a deal is still possible.

RH "Unfortunately, it has become a pissing match between Baez and the prosecutors, he has accused them of all kind of things. Now if he were off the case, someone like Andrea Lyon could come to them with a much more reasonable approach and there might be a deal. There is always that possibility."
That comment was from March, 2010. The basic idea remains even though Casey has had many lawyers come and go. We know that Cheney too has publicly opined that in the end there will be a deal to get it over with, or a circus trial and her be found guilty. I don't think he is having "Fun" anymore.

We now know one thing Jose Baez cannot remove himself from this case.
I don't think he is having fun anymore either. Nevertheless I still imagine Casey to be delusional enough to believe he can get her off on some technicality. Her letters to the inmate show her state of mind....is indeed outside of reality. IMO...far outside!


RH " As long as Jose is Casey's only contact with the real world there will be no deal. If someone else takes over the case and tells her the truth...there may be a deal."
www.blogtalkradio.com Steph Watts episode on March 14, 2010

 

[fla*mom]

Straight to trial. At least that is what I want to happen. If she took a plea I would hope that it would come with the stipulation that she has to tell the whole story. Not just say I will serve life, but still never tell the truth. As for no contest, I hope not.

 

[Intermezzo]

I agree with Richard Horsby, anyone other than Baez would try to broker a deal, but with Baez taking the lead with Casey it will go to trial.

Here, Steph Watts asks him if a deal is still possible.

RH "Unfortunately, it has become a pissing match between Baez and the prosecutors, he has accused them of all kind of things. Now if he were off the case, someone like Andrea Lyon could come to them with a much more reasonable approach and there might be a deal. There is always that possibility."
That comment was from March, 2010. The basic idea remains even though Casey has had many lawyers come and go. We know that Cheney too has publicly opined that in the end there will be a deal to get it over with, or a circus trial and her be found guilty. I don't think he is having "Fun" anymore.

We now know one thing Jose Baez cannot remove himself from this case.
I don't think he is having fun anymore either. Nevertheless I still imagine Casey to be delusional enough to believe he can get her off on some technicality. Her letters to the inmate show her state of mind....is indeed outside of reality.

www.blogtalkradio.com Steph Watts episode on March 14, 2010

IMO the SAO will not offer a Plea Deal of any kind. This case is going to Trial.
July 25, 2008 Baez approached LE to contact the SAO about getting immunity.
LDB contacted Baez.
In August 2008 the SAO offered limited use immunity to Casey, at the request of Baez.
The deadline to respond was extended, at the request of Baez.
The extended deadline dated passed without a response from Baez.

Here is the link to the emails from Linda D-B concerning the offer of use immunity.

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0829/17335521.pdf

 

[BChand]

Yesterday I would have voted "straight to trial", however, after reading that the defense cancelled Jesse and Richard Grund's depos scheduled for today, I am changing my mind. I'm going to vote "no contest."

http://www.wftv.com/news/25513060/detail.html


IMO, if the defense isn't ready to take depositions from these two by now, they're not even trying to get ready for trial.

 

[Apex-mom]

Cancelled 2 depositions!? I want this to go to trial just like everyone else, but I've got this uneasy feeling a NO CONTEST is coming. What a waste. A HUGE waste.
:sick::sick::sick:

 

[believe09]

I dont think you can Alford plea a first degree murder case, but I do not know for sure.

The first thing that occurred to me reading the title of the thread was a play of words on this statment- "How do you believe the world will end? With a Bang or with a Whimper?"

In this case, I think it will end with a whimper-a plea deal to LWOP.

 

[Oakley]

I reluctantly voted 'No Contest' since I am just not sure how this will play out. Y'all's opinions are very interesting though. I do know this: we will all be so disappointed and frustrated if this were to end with no answers forthcoming. We need closure!

 

[Kentjbkent]

I dont think you can Alford plea a first degree murder case, but I do not know for sure.

The first thing that occurred to me reading the title of the thread was a play of words on this statment- "How do you believe the world will end? With a Bang or with a Whimper?"

In this case, I think it will end with a whimper-a plea deal to LWOP.

Actually, I believe it is possible. The idea that it was a possibility in this case struck me a couple of months ago when I read a recent Diane Fanning book (can't recall name) about a vet who killed her husband. The night before the trial began, she changed her plea to No Contest.

I posted details of this "vet" case and the nolo contendere plea in an earlier thread concerning the a plea.

 

[Kentjbkent]

Cancelled 2 depositions!? I want this to go to trial just like everyone else, but I've got this uneasy feeling a NO CONTEST is coming. What a waste. A HUGE waste.
:sick::sick::sick:

I am also curious if perhaps this is the reason behind the longest period of dead silence by the Anthonys since this case began.

Although some have speculated, I do NOT believe that their current attorneys, who specialize in real estate and foreclosures, have SUCCEEDED where Nejame and Conway FAILED in the past of convincing CA to keep her mouth shut.

I am wondering if they have been forewarned about a possible plea or nolo and are hiding out with their tails tucked beneath their legs!

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

I am also curious if perhaps this is the reason behind the longest period of dead silence by the Anthonys since this case began.

Although some have speculated, I do NOT believe that their current attorneys, who specialize in real estate and foreclosures, have SUCCEEDED where Nejame and Conway FAILED in the past of convincing CA to keep her mouth shut.

I am wondering if they have been forewarned about a possible plea or nolo and are hiding out with their tails tucked beneath their legs!

Then we can hear all of CA's martyr theories on the WHY's of ICA's change in plea...:banghead:

I too don't believe these real estate attorneys didn't fail where the creme de la creme did...MN was their best attorney, IMO...he knew where the finger points to the perpetrator of Caylee's demise. It was just a matter of time before he would have been able to get the Anthony's to accept it...unless they have realized how incredibly idiotic they appear on camera singing the praises of MOTY..JMHO

I can't wait until the day Caylee receives her justice....and in that justice, ICA will be brought to justice and I can finally say, JUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED...JMHO


Justice for Caylee

 

[Kentjbkent]

I reluctantly voted 'No Contest' since I am just not sure how this will play out. Y'all's opinions are very interesting though. I do know this: we will all be so disappointed and frustrated if this were to end with no answers forthcoming. We need closure!

Which is exactly one of the reasons why I think they may be able to convince KC that a no contest is her best option....

I am also starting to wonder if there is not some communication going on behind the scenes of a possible change of plea or plea agreement negotations as an explanation as to why we are LONG OVERDUE for the release of documents that the defense has received long ago.

If a plea agreement or change of plea were to happen, the case would end there. I don't think we would ever see these documents released AFTER the case concludes...

...so is there a possibility these doc dumps are being temporarily suspended until the defense (or SA) makes a final decision?

BTW....not being from FLA, what is the procedure for public doc dumps and time frames for release after defense has received documents?

 

[ThinkTank]

I want to reserve my vote until I see the final Defense Witness List and see which Experts they have officially added to their List - and more importantly, which Experts are NOT on the Defense Witness List. That will tell us what direction the Defense is headed (I suspect straight down the toilet).

The Defense must list their Experts and penalty phase witnesses by November 30, 2010

 

[songline]

Don't throw any tomatoes :innocent:

I think this case ended long ago but the show is still on because it makes money. :crazy:

No same person goes to party while their child is missing. :no: :crazy:
No sane parents clean up after her at the expense of their grandchild. :no: :crazy:
No sane Police department does not confiscate a car that smells "like a dead person" instantly. :no: :crazy:


RIP little angel Caylee you are in a much better place now :angel:

 

[logicalgirl]

I am also curious if perhaps this is the reason behind the longest period of dead silence by the Anthonys since this case began.

Although some have speculated, I do NOT believe that their current attorneys, who specialize in real estate and foreclosures, have SUCCEEDED where Nejame and Conway FAILED in the past of convincing CA to keep her mouth shut.

I am wondering if they have been forewarned about a possible plea or nolo and are hiding out with their tails tucked beneath their legs!

I will drop from shock if they actually get ICA to plea or go nolo this far away from the start of the trial, but maybe Baez has threatened to quit and leave her stranded. I believe he's on the list of those who can't - but does ICA know that? Probably not.

And yes, I've thought many times - WTH? NO comments at all from the Anthony's? Who has finally managed to shut them up?? Very very curious.....:waitasec:

 

[Kentjbkent]

I will drop from shock if they actually get ICA to plea or go nolo this far away from the start of the trial, but maybe Baez has threatened to quit and leave her stranded. I believe he's on the list of those who can't - but does ICA know that? Probably not.

And yes, I've thought many times - WTH? NO comments at all from the Anthony's? Who has finally managed to shut them up?? Very very curious.....:waitasec:

Logicalgirl,

FYI......I have a pillow here waiting to cushion your drop from shock!! :crazy:

The tide definitely appears to me to be changing. A familiar poster on other forums, who has spent the last two and a half years pushing a pro-defense stance, engaging others in a debate of the evidence documents, and adamantly stating that the defense WOULD win an aquittal, appears to be now backing away and conceding in numerous posts that they expect a conviction in this case, due to a lack of financial support from JAC.

Wonder if this is going to be the defense/Anthony excuse for a plea.....no way KC could put on a fair defense wit JAC working against her?

Hmmm....:waitasec::waitasec::waitasec:

 

[LaLaw2000]

I voted straight to trial............

 

[cyberborg]

Logicalgirl,

FYI......I have a pillow here waiting to cushion your drop from shock!! :crazy:

The tide definitely appears to me to be changing. A familiar poster on other forums, who has spent the last two and a half years pushing a pro-defense stance, engaging others in a debate of the evidence documents, and adamantly stating that the defense WOULD win an aquittal, appears to be now backing away and conceding in numerous posts that they expect a conviction in this case, due to a lack of financial support from JAC.

Wonder if this is going to be the defense/Anthony excuse for a plea.....no way KC could put on a fair defense wit JAC working against her?

Hmmm....:waitasec::waitasec::waitasec:

That is a very interesting point since JB and CM are preparing ... as we speak ... to put on a big show of how ICA being indigent when faced with a DP sentence together with the JAC inability to grant ICA appropriate representation via needed expenses/funds is compromising her chance for a fair trial. This is a DP case and the Defense want to exhaust every avenue and all time and money.

Now I call that BS and agree with other thread posts that suggest a DP qualified attorney and a few local experts is fair and more the norm. Few, if any, murderers would qualify for out of state experts unless they were ICA and as notorious as ICA -- this case is far from the norm so lets not use it as any baseline. It is a rare exception.

However, I do think that the Defense strategy is to look for someone to blame the demise of ICA on, like the LE, FBI and, SA ... the JAC are also conspiring to nail poor poor ICA. So this allows them to blame but also seek grounds for appeal -- both to the public and to the justics system.