Possible Vandalism/Message To Daddy on Wall of Hope

[wondering1]

I haven't read but a couple of posts in this thread, so I don't know if this has been mentioned. So apologies in advance, if it has.

The "special k" struck me immediately because I recognized it as a reference to something illicit -- but I couldn't remember what. Here it is...yikes!!!

Slang for Ketamine Hcl, a dissociative anesthetic used in medicine on both humans (typically in young burn victims) and animals. Also used at lower doses as a recreational drug with effects similar to those of PCP or DXM (though Ketamine lasts much shorter). Typically insulfated or injected intramuscularly.

Don't want to make something sweet and innocent into something nefarious. Just mentioning it "for the record."


[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketamine[/ame]

 

[SmoothOperator]

I'm not seeing anything intentionally hurtful here.

I think the banner fell partially down because whatever it's tied with couldn't hold the weight of it (or a drunken/stoned teenager was being careless).

I think the message was written by a couple of stupid (stoned/drunk) teenagers who have possibly seen Kaine on the news at the Wall of Hope and/or whose parents know him & so they've overheard things like the name 'Special K'.

I think it was more than one person collaborating on what to write and I think they didn't realize the implications of their message because the word around their house is that Kyron is unfortunately gone to heaven.

I'm not really getting a vibe that this was anything creepy or coded.

I did wonder though, how long it would be before someone vandalized the Wall of Hope. I'm glad it was nothing more sinister.

I couldn't agree with you more, LadyL.

 

[Sherbie]

Wow. I really didn't take this note in a bad way. It looked like someone was trying to write a comforting note to Kaine saying he is in heaven, and will see him again someday.

There are a lot of people who believe Kyron is dead (after 2 months, statistically it doesn't look good), and his stemom is responsible. (the "she" won't hurt me)

ETA: there have been mentions about getting the police involved in this and hoping they catch whoever did this. What exactly is it in the note that is illegal?

I don't see how they could think it might comfort a parent to write a note to him from his "dead" child, period -- but especially not when the parents still have hope that he may be alive. There's something very creepy about anyone who would write a note to a worried or grieving parent FROM their child. It's sick, IMO.

If she had to write something, why not "Your son is God's arms now and you will see him again," without mentioning "she" can never hurt me again, daddy/dad/pop, etc. Who would find any of that comforting?!

I suppose someone might want police to look into it to see who is defiling property and/or whether that party has any involvement with anyone related to the investigation, as in someone trying to torment the parties.

 

[AbbieNormal]

"Other people who were visiting the Wall of Hope said they were upset about a message someone wrote on a sign. The message read, "I love you daddy. You will see me in another time and place where 'I' Kyron (Special K) is no longer in pain, where 'she' can no longer hurt me. Dad I am safe. I love you pop."

IMO, those people should have quietly removed that message and kept their damned mouths shut. No need to talk to the media about it.

ITA. What kind of twisted person would even put that message there? This is sick....

 

[Emeralgem]

If someone was trying to provide comfort, why only Daddy? Why not the other parents (leaving TH out of this for obvious reasons)?

Someone painted Kaine as the hero, and "she" (whoever that means, but I have my suspicions occam's razor applies here) as the villain.

Even a misguided attempt at comfort I would think would include at least DY, and probably TY too.

There was a point here.... Not an outpouring of genuine emotion.

So are you saying the "she" being referred to is the villain and your suspicion is that villain is DY? TYIA

 

[wondering1]

So are you saying the "she" being referred to is the villian and your suspicion is that villian is DY? TYIA

I read it as saying that comfort would/should have been offered DY and TY, as well as to KH.

 

[Emeralgem]

I read it as saying that comfort would/should have been offered DY and TY, as well as to KH.

Thanks wondering!, I always apppreciate your insight but for some reason I didn't quite read it that way...Again, thanks..

 

[Sherbie]

Hope we don't see this down the road:

Defense opening argument:

You will see a message left for Kyron's father at the wall of hope, telling him that he would see his son in a different time and place and that he was safe. You will hear that Terri was nowhere near the area at the time that message was left.

So was this a message from the real kidnapper, perhaps a bit miffed that the spotlight for his handiwork was shining on someone else? We believe so. You can make your own determination when we introduce the message into evidence. Certainly, it should raise a doubt about my client's guilt.

:snooty:

 

[Sherbie]

I read it as saying that comfort would/should have been offered DY and TY, as well as to KH.

Maybe she has a crush on Kaine and wants to comfort only him. :crazy:

 

[Annie]

To start out I want to say that I really think little Kyron is no longer alive and that Terri is responsible possibly with help from some others. But after reading the note several times I wondered if there is a possibility that thiis could be written by a person who really has Kyron. Seeing him in another place and time might not always mean dead. Where 'she" can no longer hurt him could mean he was being abused and someone took him away from that. I am safe could mean the same thing. If someone does have Kyron, this could be a message to let the family know he is okay. Maybe wishful thinking, but I see that possibility there.

 

[angelainwi]

Look closely at both daddys. I do not think they were written by the same person, particularly the a's are written different and even though the d's look similar it looks like one tried to follow the other's style....

 

[YellowSubmarine]

I am both disturbed and disgusted. The "Kyron (Special K) is No longer in pain" tells me the person who wrote this could likely be involved. What if TH convinced someone Kyron was being abused and would be better off dead? Maybe the "she" is supposed to be Kaine or whoever was supposedly abusing him? Crazy, I know, but crazier things have happened.

I just hope LE thoroughly investigate this and if it turns out to be a joke or whatever, I hope LE still investigates them and runs them through the mill to show them what can happen by saying something like this.

 

[Calliope]

What they did was clueless, but not illegal.

I'd think stuff like this is to be expected

 

[Aedrys]

Just wanted to pop in and say I think this note was written by a left handed person. Reminds me a lot of my husband's writing (but not him because we're nowhere near Oregon). I tried to make the letter d and realized I would never make it the way the writer made it - but a left handed person definitely would write it like the letter writer. So it's more left handed than feminine to me. Probably a high school male, I would guess. But I'm no handwriting expert, just married to a lefty.

How insensitive and cruel. Poor Kaine, my heart breaks even more for him. And I don't think TMH would go this low, but I do wonder if her son is a lefty. Hmmmm.

 

[cluciano63]

I've stayed away from this thread for 24-hrs, as my opinions have run their course and I don't feel I have anything new to say. But I don't see anything threatening in this message. I think it was written with good intentions. Many people feel that Kyron is "with the angels" and the appearance of the wall does look like a memorial.

But what I really don't get is why anyone would think Terri or anyone on her "side" would write it, as to me, it reads as though the writer clearly is implicating Terri as the one who was hurting Kyron. I think it was probably written by someone who thinks that Terri killed Kyron and this person is writing out their thoughts, not meaning to be hurtful, but perhaps not very tactfully. Anyone might refer to a child as "special" i.e. "Special K."

 

[ClueMeIn]

Another time and place, and no longer in pain, might not necessarily mean he is dead.

Maybe another time, another place...later on in time to come. No longer in pain could mean he is away from whatever abuse he may have been subject to.

 

[Emeralgem]

Just wanted to pop in and say I think this note was written by a left handed person. Reminds me a lot of my husband's writing (but not him because we're nowhere near Oregon). I tried to make the letter d and realized I would never make it the way the writer made it - but a left handed person definitely would write it like the letter writer. So it's more left handed than feminine to me. Probably a high school male, I would guess. But I'm no handwriting expert, just married to a lefty.

How insensitive and cruel. Poor Kaine, my heart breaks even more for him. And I don't think TMH would go this low, but I do wonder if her son is a lefty. Hmmmm.

BBM..Not quite certain I agree, but......then again maybe since some of the letters do not appear to be uniform in style.....
Being left handed the top portion of paper or anything I am writing on has to be turned sideways and I write toward myself slanting my letters toward me also... I have been known to slant my letters away from me too, but discarded that style of writing many many moons ago..It is almost impossible for me to write on paper IF the paper is straight up and down on any flat surface.....I would look like a contortionist if I had to stand on the ground and write on something that was straight up hanging on a wall....My letter making would not be uniform in style... Hopefully I explained that well enough for you to understand what I am attempting to convey...

 

[IBsleuthin]

After reading this note several times, taking a break and then coming back to view it again I have noticed that the person who wrote this is switching back and forth from first to third person. Trying to come across as Kyron, (which obviously would be ridiculous WHO would bring Kyron to the Wall of Hope and have him write on the banner?) and then also writing as if they are sending a message from him.

Notice first two lines, "To daddy, I love you daddy". Both times daddy is not capitalized. Obvious to me that this is an adult TRYING to write as if a small child.

Then, "you will see me in another TIME AND PLACE." Doesn't say that "I'm passed away and with the angels". Leaves it open to interpretation just in case Kyron is still alive and it could make this message look all the more credible if he is found.

Then the (Special K), which I took to mean that it is being made to look as if someone has intimate knowledge of this nickname and is trying to legitimize this note but THEN,

Then comes the following...the note goes from first person ("I" Kyron) immediately into third person "IS" no longer in pain. If Kyron were writing this he wouldn't write it "I is no longer in pain." He would write it "I AM no longer in pain".

Then, after writing TWICE daddy, daddy, this person slips and writes Dad. Capitalizes Dad and underlines it three times. Notice also that the first stroke underline is nearly straight and strong. There was confidence in that stroke. The second underline has a hesitation and then the writer pressed harder as if to convince his/her self to go on. The third line has a little swoop to it, the same way the line under "Pop" does.

That's confusing. Why the switch from daddy to Dad? Probably still thinking in the third person. Then "I am safe". Underlined.

Signature line ends with "I love you "Pop" underlined again.

So here we have three different ways to call the father daddy, Dad and Pop.

I'm wondering if the "Pop" wasn't another attempt at looking familiar.

It looks then to be a half of a smiley face, (just the smile) and the word kisses.


In conclusion; My very humble opinion is that this was someone who was just not quite sure which way to go with this note, make it look like it came from Kyron or a message of hope to Kaine. But by my estimation this was someone who really, really wanted this note to look legit but sadly it just is not.

 

[sleuthy sleutherson]

I am just horrified by this, whoever did this deserves punishment. Really sick and twisted and this person is clearly insane :furious:

I have no calm things to say about this so I'll stop now.

 

[IBsleuthin]

What they did was clueless, but not illegal.

I'd think stuff like this is to be expected

I'm in complete agreement and I'll go further to say that I'm surprised this hasn't happened more often sooner on in this situation.

This is a strange world we are living in.