Possible Victim: Natasha Jugo, 31, Queens, Body Washed Ashore and belongings found on Gilgo Beach Mar 2013 *car fnd Ocean Pkwy*

[fred&edna]

I don't think it's a serial killer in the conventional sense, either -- not somebody who is killing for the thrill. I think he's basically an enforcer. Gets rid of troublesome girls or maybe business rivals, keep the other girls in line, but it's all business, nothing personal.

Carbuff:
'Just looking for your opinion regarding SGilbert's death... do you think she died at the hands of an "enforcer", or someone else, or was her death an accident??

TIA

 

[CriminalMinds]

Is this system proven? I have never heard of this before.

yes,it is--most effective(amazingly so) in serial rape scenarios, as well as arson--it's even been adapted in other disciplines, such as marine science with great white hunting, and bugs/insects with bee movements

I remember about a few weeks after the girls were found and some info came out, I tried some geoprofiling of my own, old school style--interesting results--different from what a previous poster came up with, using a few programs---curious to see what generates from the equation and program--not sure why I never did it before, at least not that I can remember
I also reached out to see if ROSSMO would consider self-applying his equation to the GB4

 

[carbuff]

Carbuff:
'Just looking for your opinion regarding SGilbert's death... do you think she died at the hands of an "enforcer", or someone else, or was her death an accident??

TIA

She's one of three cases I'm not sure about.

Something about the woman with the pig necklace makes me think "domestic violence" rather than LISK.

I'll be very surprised if NJ didn't commit suicide. It's possible someone lured her and murdered her, but nothing about her background or circumstances fits.

SG ran into an area where it was going to be hard for even an alert, oriented woman to get out safely. So I think her actual death was a tragic accident. But was somebody really trying to kill her? Did she run into the swamp trying to escape? I don't know.

Way back in my misspent youth, I had a friend go nonlinear like that during a bad drug experience. He was sure we were trying to kill him. Fortunately for him, he fell and broke his leg and couldn't run into danger--though he continued to scream that the ambulance attendants were taking him to a secret lab where they were going to torture and kill him and leave his drained husk in an alley. It was an exciting evening. But that experience makes the account of the evening sound entirely plausible to me.

 

[WI1987]

SG ran into an area where it was going to be hard for even an alert, oriented woman to get out safely. So I think her actual death was a tragic accident. But was somebody really trying to kill her? Did she run into the swamp trying to escape? I don't know.

Way back in my misspent youth, I had a friend go nonlinear like that during a bad drug experience. He was sure we were trying to kill him. Fortunately for him, he fell and broke his leg and couldn't run into danger--though he continued to scream that the ambulance attendants were taking him to a secret lab where they were going to torture and kill him and leave his drained husk in an alley. It was an exciting evening. But that experience makes the account of the evening sound entirely plausible to me.

Hey, what do you know? Once again we both came to the same conclusions! :seeya:

This theory has been discussed frequently and for some reason it's not that popular around here. IMO I would be very surprised if SG was murdered.

 

[CriminalMinds]

I also reached out to see if ROSSMO would consider self-applying his equation to the GB4

got a response, kind of lame, but, to his credit, he did get back to me immediately-just forgot to post--have an elite mathematician to run it by, see what he determines

 

[scandi]

She's one of three cases I'm not sure about.

Something about the woman with the pig necklace makes me think "domestic violence" rather than LISK.

I'll be very surprised if NJ didn't commit suicide. It's possible someone lured her and murdered her, but nothing about her background or circumstances fits.

SG ran into an area where it was going to be hard for even an alert, oriented woman to get out safely. So I think her actual death was a tragic accident. But was somebody really trying to kill her? Did she run into the swamp trying to escape? I don't know.

Way back in my misspent youth, I had a friend go nonlinear like that during a bad drug experience. He was sure we were trying to kill him. Fortunately for him, he fell and broke his leg and couldn't run into danger--though he continued to scream that the ambulance attendants were taking him to a secret lab where they were going to torture and kill him and leave his drained husk in an alley. It was an exciting evening. But that experience makes the account of the evening sound entirely plausible to me.

Last Nov I had a knee operation and at the recovery center they were pumping me full of Oxy to hold the pain at bay. It was way too much for me and I suddenly thought the nurses were trying to get my pain meds. I actually called for an ambulance 2 nights in a row as I was afraid I wasn't getting the right care. My sister said I was temporarily crazy {lol}. I told the Dr to change my pain meds and was back to normal in a few days. It was awful!~

I was the least possible candidate to ever act like that. I just paid off the ambulance and ER bills from those 2 nights! Drugs can definitely make one do things they would not do ordinarily.

 

[genericwhitemale]

Last Nov I had a knee operation and at the recovery center they were pumping me full of Oxy to hold the pain at bay. It was way too much for me and I suddenly thought the nurses were trying to get my pain meds. I actually called for an ambulance 2 nights in a row as I was afraid I wasn't getting the right care. My sister said I was temporarily crazy {lol}. I told the Dr to change my pain meds and was back to normal in a few days. It was awful!~

I was the least possible candidate to ever act like that. I just paid off the ambulance and ER bills from those 2 nights! Drugs can definitely make one do things they would not do ordinarily.

Sounds like a bad trip to me. Are you sure there wasn't any LSD in that IV?

 

[twocuriouscats]

Has anybody heard anything about Natasha since she was found? Like maybe an autopsy result? I could not even find her obituary.

If she suicided, why can't LE just come out and say it's a suspected suicide - let us know if she left a note...then we could put her case to rest. Many of us have come to care about her.
I wonder why her family has not spoken to the press.

Locals, do you know more?


http://www.longisland.com/news/06-2...ch-is-that-of-missing-woman-natasha-jugo.html

 

[mcme]

Has anybody heard anything about Natasha since she was found? Like maybe an autopsy result? I could not even find her obituary.

If she suicided, why can't LE just come out and say it's a suspected suicide - let us know if she left a note...then we could put her case to rest. Many of us have come to care about her.
I wonder why her family has not spoken to the press.

Locals, do you know more?


http://www.longisland.com/news/06-2...ch-is-that-of-missing-woman-natasha-jugo.html

They called it a probable suicide from almost day one, which would explain why the family isn't speaking out and why LE and the media are respecting their privacy.

 

[twocuriouscats]

They called it a probable suicide from almost day one, which would explain why the family isn't speaking out and why LE and the media are respecting their privacy.

thanks mcme,
I will accept what you say.

 

[Puggle]

First time posting here. I am interested also in finding out more details about
what really happened to Natasha. twocuriouscats I didn't find an obituary, but may have found her church? A mention of pray for "Our" deceased;
Natasha Lucia Jugo. The dates match. Not sure how to link properly, but will give it a go.
http://content.seekandfind.com/bulletins/04/0224/20130630B.pdf

 

[Theforeigner]

Here is a Natasha L. Jugo Obituary , very little info though:

http://www.tributes.com/show/Natasha-L.-Jugo-96166904


Natasha was born on November 14, 1981 and passed away on Monday, June 24, 2013.

Natasha was a resident of Bayside, New York

 

[bessie]

First time posting here. I am interested also in finding out more details about
what really happened to Natasha. twocuriouscats I didn't find an obituary, but may have found her church? A mention of pray for "Our" deceased;
Natasha Lucia Jugo. The dates match. Not sure how to link properly, but will give it a go.
http://content.seekandfind.com/bulletins/04/0224/20130630B.pdf

Hello, Puggle!

:welcome5:
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[Puggle]

Hi Bessie, thankyou for the welcome.

I'm glad I have found a place to discuss the things that have been driving me mad with
others, hopefully some answers can be found.

 

[Puggle]

I started reading the thread and a poster called Nao linked Natasha's Myspace page which unfortunately I can't see or I am not sure if I'm looking at the right person - The foreigner also commented about this myspace page so it must be visable to a few people. Can anyone tell me if this page has a picture of a female showing only the
neck to waist dressed in a black (sexualized) outfit, as this is the only profile for a Natasha Jugo I can find on myspace.

 

[Just K]

Yes, that is one the photos from her Myspace.

About that Obituary...the date is odd. She disappeared about 3 months before June 24th 2013. This whole thing is so bizarre. Apparently there was a mother father and sister and possibly a roommate yet relatively little was said to try and find Natasha.

 

[twocuriouscats]

Hi Bessie, thankyou for the welcome.

I'm glad I have found a place to discuss the things that have been driving me mad with
others, hopefully some answers can be found.

Hi Puggle!:greetings::wagon:

 

[LISleuth]

Yes, that is one the photos from her Myspace.

About that Obituary...the date is odd. She disappeared about 3 months before June 24th 2013. This whole thing is so bizarre. Apparently there was a mother father and sister and possibly a roommate yet relatively little was said to try and find Natasha.

The date reflects the day her body washed up at the beach. The death is recorded as the day the body found not the day the person went missing.

 

[Puggle]

Thank you for the welcome wagon twocuriouscats

LISueths is correct. Although there may have been some confusion about exact dates as some media reports hadn't indetified the body as being Natasha's until a few days later, I suspect this was just shoddy reporting though.

I just want to be a 100% certain that the Myspace page I'm looking at (which has little to no detail) that I can see apart from a picture and two connections??? Friends is the right one. The one I'm looking at has a woman No headshot, the picture is from the neck to waist and the woman is wearing a black outfit. The link ends with the numbers 221074976. If this is the right one then there may be a good reason or at least an explanation to Just K's concern and question to why there hasn't been much info asked or put out there by family or flatemate.

 

[Theforeigner]

Thank you for the welcome wagon twocuriouscats

LISueths is correct. Although there may have been some confusion about exact dates as some media reports hadn't indetified the body as being Natasha's until a few days later, I suspect this was just shoddy reporting though.

I just want to be a 100% certain that the Myspace page I'm looking at (which has little to no detail) that I can see apart from a picture and two connections??? Friends is the right one. The one I'm looking at has a woman No headshot, the picture is from the neck to waist and the woman is wearing a black outfit. The link ends with the numbers 221074976. If this is the right one then there may be a good reason or at least an explanation to Just K's concern and question to why there hasn't been much info asked or put out there by family or flatemate.

Here is a link to the picture you are refering to, however this is a full picture iclusive her head and I´m 99.99% sure it IS the right Natasha Jugo :
https://myspace.com/221074976/mixes/profilemix-60003/photo/1381784