Possible Victim: Shannan Gilbert, 24, missing May 2010, found Oak Beach Dec 2011 #3

[minazoe]

You know, though, in that House of Secrets, I noticed they did have that satanic hanging, wherever they displayed it. They're into "dark."

And nothing wrong with that-- till your husband murders a bunch of tiny women and uses victims' phones to taunt and draw attention to himself as he disposes of the remains. And then LE finds a planning document on his computer. And you keep insisting he didn't do it, and you had no knowledge of it. Not being sarcastic, honestly, in a million other cases it wouldn't matter, but here, it becomes impossible to completely ignore, jmo.

And there was that absolutely bizarre "coffee table" book. It's-- weird. And there's a creepy juxtaposition of kitsch, too, in that house. You've got these satanic items, coffee table book of grotesquely murdered people, fairies/gnomes whatever, winged creatures, and a bunch of dolls. It's like the house is sometimes trying to be like a unicorn, full of fantasy and whimsy. But it ends up more like a unicorn on crack.

I noticed it too.

 

[Ruminations]

You know, though, in that House of Secrets, I noticed they did have that satanic hanging, wherever they displayed it. They're into "dark."

And nothing wrong with that-- till your husband murders a bunch of tiny women and uses victims' phones to taunt and draw attention to himself as he disposes of the remains. And then LE finds a planning document on his computer. And you keep insisting he didn't do it, and you had no knowledge of it. Not being sarcastic, honestly, in a million other cases it wouldn't matter, but here, it becomes impossible to completely ignore, jmo.

And there was that absolutely bizarre "coffee table" book. It's-- weird. And there's a creepy juxtaposition of kitsch, too, in that house. You've got these satanic items, coffee table book of grotesquely murdered people, fairies/gnomes whatever, winged creatures, and a bunch of dolls. It's like the house is sometimes trying to be like a unicorn, full of fantasy and whimsy. But it ends up more like a unicorn on crack.

There were a lot of aesthetic/artistic details that appeared curated. Unless the producers slipped them in, the homeowners knew they were decorating for a film crew.

MOO

 

[WINDSOR]

Around 1:49:15 in the transcript of John Ray's talk, he suggests that Shannan was at a another house in Oak Beach before returning to Brewer's house and calling 911.

If he is correct and this other house was where Shannan felt her life was in danger, the 911 phone call from Brewer's house makes perfect sense.

I was not aware of Shannan being in another house prior to the 911 call. Are any of you sleuthers aware of this? Is it fact? Whose house was it?

Another point that supports Ray's assertion that Shannan was at another house, possibly with other men, is the fact she was hired for 5 hours (according to Ray) which is a long time for one client like Brewer.

Ray, provides a motive for Shannan's death, the fact she was scheduled to testify for the prosecution in a criminal case. 1:41:18 in the transcript.

MOO

 

[minazoe]

I haven't listened to this podcast yet...but this is freaking me out because it totally changes the timeline, the locations, and the players.
explains all the shadiness and foot shuffling...it's a real aha moment..I have to digest this. Going to listen later..wow..mOO

 

[snarast]

Around 1:49:15 in the transcript of John Ray's talk, he suggests that Shannan was at a another house in Oak Beach before returning to Brewer's house and calling 911.

If he is correct and this other house was where Shannan felt her life was in danger, the 911 phone call from Brewer's house makes perfect sense.

I was not aware of Shannan being in another house prior to the 911 call. Are any of you sleuthers aware of this? Is it fact? Whose house was it?

Another point that supports Ray's assertion that Shannan was at another house, possibly with other men, is the fact she was hired for 5 hours (according to Ray) which is a long time for one client like Brewer.

Ray, provides a motive for Shannan's death, the fact she was scheduled to testify for the prosecution in a criminal case. 1:41:18 in the transcript.

MOO

Yup, The trafficker classic going out with a (gang) bang.

He makes a good point, though. Well, several. If there were more people there than the seemingly sedentary Brewer and Pak, Shannan’s affect is even more understandable.

 

[omniscient]

anyone notice how on the phone call with 911, she starts with "YEAH, someone's following me". If you were in danger, would you start your phone call so calmly with yeah? That combined with the fact that she keeps saying she "doesn't know," yet it takes a severe, dangerous problem for a prostitute to call 911. Too many things don't add up about the phone call in my personal opinion. as well as Gus using 911 aswell, possibly as a tool.

 

[Warwick7]

Around 1:49:15 in the transcript of John Ray's talk, he suggests that Shannan was at a another house in Oak Beach before returning to Brewer's house and calling 911.

If he is correct and this other house was where Shannan felt her life was in danger, the 911 phone call from Brewer's house makes perfect sense.

I was not aware of Shannan being in another house prior to the 911 call. Are any of you sleuthers aware of this? Is it fact? Whose house was it?

Another point that supports Ray's assertion that Shannan was at another house, possibly with other men, is the fact she was hired for 5 hours (according to Ray) which is a long time for one client like Brewer.

Ray, provides a motive for Shannan's death, the fact she was scheduled to testify for the prosecution in a criminal case. 1:41:18 in the transcript.

MOO

There is so much I had forgotten. But yes, now I remember she was going to be testifying.

 

[snarast]

anyone notice how on the phone call with 911, she starts with "YEAH, someone's following me". If you were in danger, would you start your phone call so calmly with yeah? That combined with the fact that she keeps saying she "doesn't know," yet it takes a severe, dangerous problem for a prostitute to call 911. Too many things don't add up about the phone call in my personal opinion. as well as Gus using 911 aswell, possibly as a tool.

Could you elaborate on the last bit there?

You’re not suggesting that Gus was part of the sex ring? If so he was a world class liar.

 

[minazoe]

she says yeah... because someone finally picked up her call..so she says yeah..someone is following me. nothing unusual. she is probably alluding this person at that moment and is trying to not sound insane. mOO