Possible Victim: Shannan Gilbert, 24, missing May 2010, found Oak Beach Dec 2011 #3

[Ruminations]

I don't think RH had anything to do with Shannan at all.

We don't know if RH was involved. It sure would be nice to know where he was that night, and it would be great to see the comings and goings on Oak Beach that night. Pity about the security camera footage. Pak and Brewers narratives are not very credible, and it does seem like there was a lot more going on that evening than Shannan and brewer playing cards while Pak played on his phone in the driveway.

I don't know if RH was pat of that more going on or not.

But what it indisputable is something happened to Shannan, whether Rex Heuermann is directly involved or not.

MOO

 

[Betty P]

In my opinion RH was nowhere near there. Brewer was hanging out with her for 3 hours before her 911 call. How does waiting 3 hours to make a move on her make sense. You really think RH would be working with someone else? You think he would call a girl with an armed driver? RH made sure to use Burner phones. He picked all his victims up. It took him 12 years to get caught. RH wrapped his victims in camo and put them more or less on the side of the road so he could go back and visit them. Shannon was found in veggitation that would slice you up. Why would a potential murderer go through all that when they could have dumped her body somewhere easier to get to. The cops used a treaded vehicle to reach her.

Her body wasn't that far from the roadside. It seems much more likely it was placed there from the roadside than that she ran/struggled/climbed a much greater distance from a spot inside Oak Beach neighborhood.

While I'm about 70/30 believing that Shannan met with foul play, I'm not fully sure it was RH who killed her. Possible, but also possible another person or persons were the killer. There was something about her death that made local LE avoid investigating it while stonewalling state and federal agencies. Everything about the response to the 911 call and investigation of Shannan's disappearance has been abnormal and suspicious. The general rule of thumb is that if any part of a death investigation has been falsified, hidden or otherwise misdirected, all of the results are thrown into question.

Oh, to have been a fly on the wall at Suffolk County PD when that canine officer went out to Oak and Gilgo Beach and discovered the first serial killer victim.

JMO

 

[minazoe]

literally 5 hours of unaccounted for time. no resolution to any of the suspicions or events of the night. no explanations. in the Gilgo B Doc..they say she died transversing the marsh. but, there is zero evidence that that is what happened. you hear her saying " Stop it, NO!, what are you going to do to me?" then screams...but she died of hypothermia in the marsh.

let's go back, shall we? this case needs a fresh start. mOO

 

[minazoe]

I mean PH called her mother and told her he treated her...that is WHACK!!! mOO

 

[lohrtabitha]

Her body wasn't that far from the roadside. It seems much more likely it was placed there from the roadside than that she ran/struggled/climbed a much greater distance from a spot inside Oak Beach neighborhood.

While I'm about 70/30 believing that Shannan met with foul play, I'm not fully sure it was RH who killed her. Possible, but also possible another person or persons were the killer. There was something about her death that made local LE avoid investigating it while stonewalling state and federal agencies. Everything about the response to the 911 call and investigation of Shannan's disappearance has been abnormal and suspicious. The general rule of thumb is that if any part of a death investigation has been falsified, hidden or otherwise misdirected, all of the results are thrown into question.

Oh, to have been a fly on the wall at Suffolk County PD when that canine officer went out to Oak and Gilgo Beach and discovered the first serial killer victim.

JMO

We don't know how many years he has been killing? Although his DNA has been taken, until other cold cases run their dna evidence, he could be responsible for many killing across many states. I do think he could have killed Shannan and many others as suggested in this article.imo

Rex Heuermann's alleged murder spree could spread coast-to-coast

Police nationwide are looking deeper into cold cases that may now have a connection to Rex Heuermann.

www.newsweek.com

 

[minazoe]

the law is no CODIS until conviction.

 

[lohrtabitha]

the law is no CODIS until conviction.

I know. So we wait.

 

[Betty P]

We don't know how many years he has been killing? Although his DNA has been taken, until other cold cases run their dna evidence, he could be responsible for many killing across many states. I do think he could have killed Shannan and many others as suggested in this article.imo

Rex Heuermann's alleged murder spree could spread coast-to-coast

Police nationwide are looking deeper into cold cases that may now have a connection to Rex Heuermann.

www.newsweek.com

I agree. He could have killed Shannan. I'm just not 100% sure he did. It would be interesting to find out where he was that night and what he was doing. As someone else mentioned earlier, it would be interesting to see his GPS or cell phone data from that night, as well as the records of PH and other relevant people.

 

[Betty P]

the law is no CODIS until conviction.

Is that just New York law?

 

[minazoe]

Is that just New York law?

I think it might be..I think it's because you can't randomly find a person who is not convicted and attach a crime to them based on DNA taken without permission or a specific warrant...something like that...once you are convicted you lose your right to the privacy of your DNA..

I think??? something like that...mOO

 

[Betty P]

I think it might be..I think it's because you can't randomly find a person who is not convicted and attach a crime to them based on DNA taken without permission or a specific warrant...something like that...once you are convicted you lose your right to the privacy of your DNA..

I think??? something like that...mOO

IIRC, it took New York a long time to develop and deploy rules for using DNA evidence in criminal cases. Same thing happened with our metro county prosecutor's office. They still rarely use DNA evidence in murder cases. It's just old school ways of doing things. IYKWIM