Post Conviction Brief

[proudfootz]

Ironic that Griesbach is making allegations that Zellner (already rich and famous) is taking on this case to raise her own profile - especially in light of the fact that Griesbach has written at least three books seeking to profit off the Averys, and making full use of the opportunity to appear on television and radio as a self-appointed expert, writing opinion pieces such as this, and even participating in a sensationalistic program like Murder Made Me Famous on REELZ.

 

[IDK]

http://www.postcrescent.com/story/o...out-fortune-fame-steven-avery-case/420015001/

'Column: Kathleen Zellner Out for Fortune, Fame in Steven Avery Case.'

Well, it seems that KK is not the only agent of the state to now be spewing much hate and mis-information to the local public in an attempt to smear KZ's name and intention's. This column was written by the state's SECOND, (but, granted, less slimier version), mouthpiece...MG, himself. For all of his fake sincerity in the past of saying how he proves he is only interested in the "truth" because he was against the state in SA first wrongful conviction, so that shows he is not a bias person, I think MG's mask is slipping now, as can be seen by this petty and mean news column, imo. he starts off admitting that,

"Mistakes were made in the Avery case." (You don't say!) but that, "an imperfect investigation doesn't add up to a wrongful conviction- or even the right to a new trial" (Uhhh, excuse me but last time I checked this was still America and I would think that it would add up to a new trial, at the LEAST!?!). He finishes up this masterpiece by stating about KZ...

"Will Zellner feel an ounce of regret for pulling the wool over America's eyes while celebrating MAM2's debut, perhaps in her 3000-square-foot home theater in suburban Chicago? More likely, she will send out another self-serving tweet."

Now,I don't know about anyone else else but, MG is sounding very jealous here about KZ's home theater set-up so I am assuming his books are not doing so well at the moment, LOL. :biglaugh: I would also like to point out that he is receiving an absolute BEATING :bigstick:in the comments section,which I am finding to be particularly hilarious. :laughcry:

All, JMO, of course.

Thanks for posting this! I agree he sounds jealous, so ridiculous. If he worked half as hard as she does, he could get his own theater since that seems so important to him.

PS: I can't get the comments section to load for some reason. Anyone else have this problem?

 

[CoolJ]

Thanks for posting this! I agree he sounds jealous, so ridiculous. If he worked half as hard as she does, he could get his own theater since that seems so important to him.

PS: I can't get the comments section to load for some reason. Anyone else have this problem?

I think it was a veiled threat. Letting KZ know that they know where she lives and specifics about her house. He also did it to M & L the filmmakers.

These guys are like a criminal enterprise. The picture is becoming much clearer for me now.

 

[htiff]

http://www.wbay.com/content/news/Ex...mistic-following-Dassey-ruling-430385243.html

This may already have been posted, but just in case it wasn't.

 

[proudfootz]

I think it was a veiled threat. Letting KZ know that they know where she lives and specifics about her house. He also did it to M & L the filmmakers.

These guys are like a criminal enterprise. The picture is becoming much clearer for me now.

Ugh!

I hadn't thought of that, but if someone like that started describing my home during an intellectual or political dispute I'd definitely take it as being a bit too stalkerish.

 

[dexter75]

http://www.postcrescent.com/story/o...out-fortune-fame-steven-avery-case/420015001/

'Column: Kathleen Zellner Out for Fortune, Fame in Steven Avery Case.'

Well, it seems that KK is not the only agent of the state to now be spewing much hate and mis-information to the local public in an attempt to smear KZ's name and intention's. This column was written by the state's SECOND, (but, granted, less slimier version), mouthpiece...MG, himself. For all of his fake sincerity in the past of saying how he proves he is only interested in the "truth" because he was against the state in SA first wrongful conviction, so that shows he is not a bias person, I think MG's mask is slipping now, as can be seen by this petty and mean news column, imo. he starts off admitting that,

"Mistakes were made in the Avery case." (You don't say!) but that, "an imperfect investigation doesn't add up to a wrongful conviction- or even the right to a new trial" (Uhhh, excuse me but last time I checked this was still America and I would think that it would add up to a new trial, at the LEAST!?!). He finishes up this masterpiece by stating about KZ...

"Will Zellner feel an ounce of regret for pulling the wool over America's eyes while celebrating MAM2's debut, perhaps in her 3000-square-foot home theater in suburban Chicago? More likely, she will send out another self-serving tweet."

Now,I don't know about anyone else else but, MG is sounding very jealous here about KZ's home theater set-up so I am assuming his books are not doing so well at the moment, LOL. :biglaugh: I would also like to point out that he is receiving an absolute BEATING :bigstick:in the comments section,which I am finding to be particularly hilarious. :laughcry:

All, JMO, of course.

WOW!
And the comments that follow..BRUTAL!
LOL😉

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[Jaiddie]

http://www.postcrescent.com/story/o...out-fortune-fame-steven-avery-case/420015001/

'Column: Kathleen Zellner Out for Fortune, Fame in Steven Avery Case.'

Well, it seems that KK is not the only agent of the state to now be spewing much hate and mis-information to the local public in an attempt to smear KZ's name and intention's. This column was written by the state's SECOND, (but, granted, less slimier version), mouthpiece...MG, himself. For all of his fake sincerity in the past of saying how he proves he is only interested in the "truth" because he was against the state in SA first wrongful conviction, so that shows he is not a bias person, I think MG's mask is slipping now, as can be seen by this petty and mean news column, imo. he starts off admitting that,

"Mistakes were made in the Avery case." (You don't say!) but that, "an imperfect investigation doesn't add up to a wrongful conviction- or even the right to a new trial" (Uhhh, excuse me but last time I checked this was still America and I would think that it would add up to a new trial, at the LEAST!?!). He finishes up this masterpiece by stating about KZ...

"Will Zellner feel an ounce of regret for pulling the wool over America's eyes while celebrating MAM2's debut, perhaps in her 3000-square-foot home theater in suburban Chicago? More likely, she will send out another self-serving tweet."

Now,I don't know about anyone else else but, MG is sounding very jealous here about KZ's home theater set-up so I am assuming his books are not doing so well at the moment, LOL. :biglaugh: I would also like to point out that he is receiving an absolute BEATING :bigstick:in the comments section,which I am finding to be particularly hilarious. :laughcry:

All, JMO, of course.

http://wislawjournal.com/2017/06/26/critics-corner-mistakes-were-made-a-reply-to-michael-griesbach/

'Critic's Corner: "Mistakes Were Made": A Reply to Michael Griesbach'

This a reply from a fellow criminal defense lawyer and author....I really enjoyed the following passage, and would seriously ask the people who still think they are guilty to explain this part to me. How can SA logically be guilty of one but not the other?

" the jury did not find Avery guilty “beyond a shadow of a doubt.” The jury did not come back quickly, or even unanimously. Instead, jurors deliberated for days and then irrationally split the verdict, finding Avery guilty of homicide but not of mutilating the corpse. And even though prosecutors (sometimes) love to claim that the word verdict means “to speak the truth,” this jury’s verdict was not the truth; in fact, it spoke the one outcome that could not have been true. Even Ken Kratz knows that Avery either committed both crimes or committed neither crime."

 

[dexter75]

Seems to be a pattern with many who aren't fond of Zellner..
Or are they ( MG, " SA is "guilty" KK, & so on ) not fond of Zellner defending SA maybe?
IMO all folks seem to be doing, ( in interviews, Reddit, etc. ) the folks who are obviously upset about/against the whole MAM ordeal/Steven Avery/Branden Dassey case anyway.... is slinging personal insults at Zellner. Lol
Maybe it's just me but it seems each and every time I go to read something I THINK might be an informed, objective POV... it's nothing but another attempt at TRYING to assassinate Zellners character🤔
JMO

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[htiff]

My links are posting, but the Inquisitr has two interesting articles on this case.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

My links are posting, but the Inquisitr has two interesting articles on this case.

Inquistr links are blocked by Websleuths.

What a lot of people do on this sub-forum to get around that block is to link to a Reddit thread that has the articles you wish to discuss.

 

[htiff]

Here's a recent article that should post:

http://www.postcrescent.com/story/n...ssey-case-has-wide-reaching-impact/436625001/

 

[dexter75]

Here's a recent article that should post:

http://www.postcrescent.com/story/n...ssey-case-has-wide-reaching-impact/436625001/

Nice article, Gracie😊
JMO

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[missy1974]

http://media.graytvinc.com/documents/Letter+to+Judge+Sutkiewicz.pdf

Fallon (State) letter to the Judge filed today.

Basically says that the court lacks jurisdiction and it should be returned to the appellate court, except for 3 things, the hood latch swab testing, the key testing, and the bullet fragment testing because these were a result of what they agreed on back in November 2016 to test (which the bullet was later IIRC and not part of the original agreement)

 

[missy1974]

oh and... I think KZ has filed a motion to dismiss in the appeals court.

According to someone on the family FB page......"This was the appeal that was being held in abeyance pending the outcome of the petition for postconviction relief being filed with the Circuit Court. One of the rules of a 974.06 petition is that no other appellate proceedings can be pending, so this was just an administrative issue"

Also... KZ now has her twitter on private. Not sure why. If you already followed her, you can still see her tweets, if not, you have to have a twitter account and have to be approved first now.

 

[missy1974]

http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-c.../Zellner-Letter-to-Judge-7-13-17_redacted.pdf

Letter from KZ to judge.

Dear Judge Sutkiewicz:

We have informed the Attorney General’s Office that on July 12, 2017 we sent by
Federal Express, to the Court of Appeals, a Motion to Dismiss the Appeal in the above
referenced case. We have confirmed with the Court of Appeals that the motion was docketed
this morning. A copy of the notice of motion and the motion are enclosed. We have filed this
motion so that this Court will have jurisdiction on all claims raised in the latest post-conviction
motion of Mr. Avery.

short and sweet, and the motion is attached. IIRC this is the appeal that SA filed right before KZ took his case back in January 2016, or Dec '15.

 

[BigCityAccountant]

http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-c.../Zellner-Letter-to-Judge-7-13-17_redacted.pdf

Letter from KZ to judge.

Dear Judge Sutkiewicz:

We have informed the Attorney General’s Office that on July 12, 2017 we sent by
Federal Express, to the Court of Appeals, a Motion to Dismiss the Appeal in the above
referenced case. We have confirmed with the Court of Appeals that the motion was docketed
this morning. A copy of the notice of motion and the motion are enclosed. We have filed this
motion so that this Court will have jurisdiction on all claims raised in the latest post-conviction
motion of Mr. Avery.

short and sweet, and the motion is attached. IIRC this is the appeal that SA filed right before KZ took his case back in January 2016, or Dec '15.

Thanks Missy~~~couldn't get to WS while at work today...

Look at that letter from KZ to the judge. She informed TF YESTERDAY that she was dismissing the appeal...he rushed to the court TODAY to get the judge to agree that it couldn't be heard at the county level and had to be heard at the appeals level. That would mean it was dismissed at the appellate level, so those arguments couldn't be heard there and if he was successful, it wouldn't be able to be heard at the county level either. What a snake. Sneaky and dirty on TF's part, (but then what did you expect??) (true colors are showing~~except KZ was ahead of his game...LOL

 

[BigCityAccountant]

KZ's letter to the Court today....

Answers a lot of questions...

http://media.graytvinc.com/documents/Zellner+letter.pdf

 

[missy1974]

KZ's letter to the Court today....

Answers a lot of questions...

http://media.graytvinc.com/documents/Zellner+letter.pdf

was just going to post this...

Fallon is a weasel IMO

From the letter:

On July 12, 2017, attorney Kathleen Zellner spoke to Mr. Fallon about the fact
that Mr. Avery’s pro se appeal was still pending before the Wisconsin Appellate
Court. Ms. Zellner and Mr. Fallon have had several detailed conversations since
the entry of this court’s order regarding scientific testing and about the status of the
case. Ms. Zellner informed Mr. Fallon that she was going to file a motion to dismiss
the pro se appeal. Mr. Fallon stated that the Attorney General would not require
the re-filing of Mr. Avery’s post-conviction petition. Ms. Zellner and Mr. Richards
prepared and sent the Motion to Dismiss to the Wisconsin Appellate Court via
Federal Express on the same day (July 12) as this conversation with Mr. Fallon.
The motion to dismiss was sent via Federal Express because the Wisconsin
Appellate Court does not have electronic filing. All parties and this court were
given notice that this motion had been filed.

Also, I see that KZ has asked for the cranial bones, the letter doesn't say whether Fallon agreed to hand them over or not?

 

[BigCityAccountant]

[h=1]Brain Fingerprinting and Brady violations[/h]
[FONT=&quot]In Harrington, brain fingerprinting was used as newly discovered evidence, along with due process violations (Brady violations) as a basis for the petition for Post Conviction Relief. The Iowa Supreme Court decision holds a very small, and easily overlooked clue. In relation to brain fingerprinting, the Iowa Supreme Court states in it's decision:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]"Because we conclude the due process claim is dispositive of the present appeal, we do not reach the question of whether the trial court erred in rejecting Harrington's request for a new trial on the basis of newly discovered evidence.Nonetheless, we briefly review the evidence introduced by the defendant at the PCR hearing with respect to various witnesses' recantation of their incriminating trial testimony, as it gives context to our later discussion of the materiality of the police reports. Because the scientific testing evidence is not necessary to a resolution of this appeal, we give it no further consideration."[/FONT]
[h=2]The opened door resulted in a new trial for Harrington[/h]
[FONT=&quot]Simply stated, the claim of new evidence in the form of brain fingerprinting opened a door.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot][/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]That was all that was needed. That newly discovered evidence led to the review of other evidence attached. It is interesting to note that in Harrington, there were also Brady violations and because of this, a new trial was granted.

However, one thing it certainly does is open doors, and smart attorneys will walk through them, case file in hand, ready to fight. Kathleen Zellner saw this opportunity and took it, like any good attorney would do on behalf of her client.

http://us.blastingnews.com/news/2017/07/brain-fingerprinting-and-brady-violations-001849447.html

[/FONT]

 

[BigCityAccountant]

Lucian aka Luke Haag & his son Mike are the featured experts. NOVA: Cold Case JFK

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/cold-case-jfk.html