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[Mountain_Kat]

There's very little to be found on Bittrolff, Hawk. Trust me...we have all tried.

 

[twocuriouscats]

And I'm not Peter. If I was Peter the login name would read Peter Brendt? Huh?

OK. You're not PB. Maybe that was unkind of me to say. I am terribly confused by what you are trying to say happened and the actual facts. I happen to know the actual facts very well, as do a lot of posters on this topic. I don't understand you sometimes...PB spoke in the same way you do.

 

[Emre E]

OK. You're not PB. Maybe that was unkind of me to say. I am terribly confused by what you are trying to say happened and the actual facts. I happen to know the actual facts very well, as do a lot of posters on this topic. I don't understand you sometimes...PB spoke in the same way you do.

We're cool. I have nothing against you. I believe you have nothing against me.

I'm giving an idea and expecting you to see what part of my idea is shaky, or you can assert your idea and show me the more plausible version. And the way I write, you write shouldn't be the matter. Sometimes I write funny. Do you have a perp profile? I'd love to read that and see how well it explains the situation.

Because I had one, and a missing piece came from PB's analysis. I don't think he is completely right but he's got some really good insight. So, may be your analysis could help me figure one terrible question. Why summertime? What is this guy, a rattlesnake hibernating in the winter and killing when it gets hot? I believe I solved this crime but I still don't have an answer to the summertime thing.

 

[twocuriouscats]

Or here's a parable... Is it possible to solve a crime without zero intelligence?

If you complain me to the mods, I will give the answer here and you will be double angry/resented/displeased/amused.

RBBM

I'm having trouble understanding you - I am not in the habit of reporting anyone to the mods so I wont "complain you". Please give us the answer here so we will be "double angry/resented/displeased/amused". Please don't forget to include the amusing part lol!
With respect Emre, maybe it is just a language barrier?

 

[Emre E]

I think he thought if he spread them far enough apart...when and if one body was found - it might not be connected to the other.

Jewelries? DNA?

 

[Emre E]

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RBBM

I'm having trouble understanding you - I am not in the habit of reporting anyone to the mods so I wont "complain you". Please give us the answer here so we will be "double angry/resented/displeased/amused". Please don't forget to include the amusing part lol!
With respect Emre, maybe it is just a language barrier?

English is not my first language but I think we're understanding each other quite fine.

Mr. Bittrolff's case. Where exactly human intelligence was inserted? My answer is nowhere. The crime could be solved by some fancy CSI robots and computers only.

 

[Puggle]

I'm lost... But anyways>>>

Hi puggle,
Melissa seemed to be content. Amber seemed to be heroin addicted at the time. Maureen wanted to pay her rent and support her kids. Megan wanted to get money for an apartment for her and her daughter - she also had been told by her romeo-pimp that he wanted to have a child with her...I imagine they all wanted out...eventually...

Thankyou for your response 2Ccats... With some thought...Maybe I meant there was a possibility that (Sheesh - can't write what I'm thinking) Even though the girls were so called "Independent" I have this feeling they weren't for some reason. They all had to rely on someone didn't they? I'm not sure but I'm asking for advice of what other's may think. What was Shannan's boyfriend doing for money - why wasn't he her driver , why was (?) he driving around someone else? Why would that be, they were a couple, it would make more sense for them to work together as a team. They met at an agency - who's to say the agency wasn't still in control of both of them (Was shannan branching out) It's things like that which make me question if they were really independent. Megan doesn't feel right either...the so called announcement the day before that Akeem was going to let her get pregnant and stop prostituting...I don't buy it. To me that was a sweetener from Akeem - most likely because she would have been complaining - I think she wanted out. I have had the opportunity to have a glimpse into the lives of two escorts for the past three years...and time and time again - these promises from pimps appear...at the time when the girls are second guessing "their" blokes ohh they do believe the pimp is their Boyfriend. We aren't privy to all information but I have wondered if Amber had become fearful after being bashed - and someone had promised to help get her out, promising her big money and protection (A sugar Daddy) - didn't her drug addicted "boyfriend" rely on her money... Something is nagging at me???

 

[twocuriouscats]

We're cool. I have nothing against you. I believe you have nothing against me.

I'm giving an idea and expecting you to see what part of my idea is shaky, or you can assert your idea and show me the more plausible version. And the way I write, you write shouldn't be the matter. Sometimes I write funny. Do you have a perp profile? I'd love to read that and see how well it explains the situation.

Because I had one, and a missing piece came from PB's analysis. I don't think he is completely right but he's got some really good insight. So, may be your analysis could help me figure one terrible question. Why summertime? What is this guy, a rattlesnake hibernating in the winter and killing when it gets hot? I believe I solved this crime but I still don't have an answer to the summertime thing.

Ok. So maybe summertime was when his family took vacation so he could do his thing. Maybe summer is when he comes to town.
I did post my original profile on this thread - it's probably changed with the knowledge of Bittrolf. IMO he might be good for all of them. If he worked in construction, for example, he would have more work in the summer and could explain his absences from home to his family as being necessary for work.
Seriously, if you have solved this crime, please share it with us. Please...............

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I'm lost... But anyways>>>



Thankyou for your response 2Ccats... With some thought...Maybe I meant there was a possibility that (Sheesh - can't write what I'm thinking) Even though the girls were so called "Independent" I have this feeling they weren't for some reason. They all had to rely on someone didn't they? I'm not sure but I'm asking for advice of what other's may think. What was Shannan's boyfriend doing for money - why wasn't he her driver , why was (?) he driving around someone else? Why would that be, they were a couple, it would make more sense for them to work together as a team. They met at an agency - who's to say the agency wasn't still in control of both of them (Was shannan branching out) It's things like that which make me question if they were really independent. Megan doesn't feel right either...the so called announcement the day before that Akeem was going to let her get pregnant and stop prostituting...I don't buy it. To me that was a sweetener from Akeem - most likely because she would have been complaining - I think she wanted out. I have had the opportunity to have a glimpse into the lives of two escorts for the past three years...and time and time again - these promises from pimps appear...at the time when the girls are second guessing "their" blokes ohh they do believe the pimp is their Boyfriend. We aren't privy to all information but I have wondered if Amber had become fearful after being bashed - and someone had promised to help get her out, promising her big money and protection (A sugar Daddy) - didn't her drug addicted "boyfriend" rely on her money... Something is nagging at me???

Both Megan and Melissa seem to have made sure that their boyfriends weren't included in this last date. If memory serves, Johnny Terry says that Melissa was particulary evasive about it. I've often wondered if Megan and Melissa were both trying to step out independent of their pimps. I know that Megan was beaten by AC after tapping into his stash. And JT had put Melissa in the hospital on more than one occasion. Those are interesting facts to consider with respect to what you've said here.

JMO

 

[Just K]

I would like to see ideas which are being expressed as "facts" supported by links and/or some documentation.

Specifically, where is this information about a "dread locked" man being seen smoking pot with MBB coming from?

 

[Emre E]

I would like to see ideas which are being expressed as "facts" supported by links and/or some documentation.

Specifically, where is this information about a "dread locked" man being seen smoking pot with MBB coming from?

Lost Girls the book. And they are smoking. The book doesn't say pot or cigarettes but clearly cigarettes, I believe so, too. Pot is my spice on that. This man must be using some kind of substance, am I right? What is your profile, a mormon man? So, I'm thinking he's using something and I can never imagine him to be a heroin addict for example.

I posted the exact quote a few pages before.

 

[Puggle]

Sex trafficking used to strike me as a viable possibility but then I concluded that it's not. An organized crime means muscle power men ready to do anything and myriads of alternatives to dispose of the bodies. I think you get my point, very roughly speaking we would be finding "buried bodies" if we were ever to find them.

The word being "Organised Crime". Which usually involves a group/gang that takes possession of a particular area and attempts to maintain their control and keep their $$$ for themselves. I think Hawk has a valid point...... maybe the only bodies being disposed of are those girls that have a wee too much insider knowledge of the bigger "Organised Crime" and their operations...muscle men - throw em to the psycho in the group - who maybe enjoys his work a little too much perhaps.

 

[Emre E]

Ok. So maybe summertime was when his family took vacation so he could do his thing. Maybe summer is when he comes to town.
I did post my original profile on this thread - it's probably changed with the knowledge of Bittrolf. IMO he might be good for all of them. If he worked in construction, for example, he would have more work in the summer and could explain his absences from home to his family as being necessary for work.
Seriously, if you have solved this crime, please share it with us. Please...............

I'm not saying I solved, I'm saying I believe I solved. Do I have a POI? Yes. Does he have a name? No. Only a moniker. And I don't want to do other people's jobs. People who are in charge of things.


BTW, if any of you guys have access to jail records, can you please give a link. Maybe I can have a real name for my perp or perps.

 

[twocuriouscats]

I'm lost... But anyways>>>



Thankyou for your response 2Ccats... With some thought...Maybe I meant there was a possibility that (Sheesh - can't write what I'm thinking) Even though the girls were so called "Independent" I have this feeling they weren't for some reason. They all had to rely on someone didn't they? I'm not sure but I'm asking for advice of what other's may think. What was Shannan's boyfriend doing for money - why wasn't he her driver , why was (?) he driving around someone else? Why would that be, they were a couple, it would make more sense for them to work together as a team. They met at an agency - who's to say the agency wasn't still in control of both of them (Was shannan branching out) It's things like that which make me question if they were really independent. Megan doesn't feel right either...the so called announcement the day before that Akeem was going to let her get pregnant and stop prostituting...I don't buy it. To me that was a sweetener from Akeem - most likely because she would have been complaining - I think she wanted out. I have had the opportunity to have a glimpse into the lives of two escorts for the past three years...and time and time again - these promises from pimps appear...at the time when the girls are second guessing "their" blokes ohh they do believe the pimp is their Boyfriend. We aren't privy to all information but I have wondered if Amber had become fearful after being bashed - and someone had promised to help get her out, promising her big money and protection (A sugar Daddy) - didn't her drug addicted "boyfriend" rely on her money... Something is nagging at me???

Well, I think Maureen, Melissa and Megan had pimps based on Kolker's book. Amber did too IMO, although DS doesn't think he was one. They were all being taken advantage of - maybe even by their families.
I have to leave Shannan out of this because I don't think she was killed by the same perp as the others.
Back to Maureen, Melissa and Megan - all cute white girls being pimped out by black men. Something about this bothers me too - as far as I know, Akeem was the only one who reported his girl missing; he was seen abusing her (Kolker's book) and had another "girlfriend" who he stayed with frequently. None of these pimps were looking out for their girls - at all. They all left them to work on their own.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

http://www.pressherald.com/2013/11/17/maine_sex_trafficking_takes_human_toll_/

Meserve said she learned only weeks before Waterman disappeared that her niece’s new boyfriend had been taking her to New York to prostitute her. But she learned that Cruz wasn’t the first man to do so.

“When I realized it was true about Akeem (Cruz), I called her up and said, ‘What are you doing?’ And she said, ‘I don’t do this all the time. It’s just a couple of times,’” Meserve said, recalling one of their last conversations. “She wanted to stop. She wanted him to be her boyfriend.”

 

[Emre E]

Well, I think Maureen, Melissa and Megan had pimps based on Kolker's book. Amber did too IMO, although DS doesn't think he was one. They were all being taken advantage of - maybe even by their families.
I have to leave Shannan out of this because I don't think she was killed by the same perp as the others.
Back to Maureen, Melissa and Megan - all cute white girls being pimped out by black men. Something about this bothers me too - as far as I know, Akeem was the only one who reported his girl missing; he was seen abusing her (Kolker's book) and had another "girlfriend" who he stayed with frequently. None of these pimps were looking out for their girls - at all. They all left them to work on their own.

OK. This is very simple. I know these are facts. Please don't ask me for links all is in this website.

Maureen's buddies left NY. Maureen was alone, she had no protection.
Melissa was off with BF . Melissa was alone, she had no protection.
Megan stepped out of the hotel in the middle of the night, Megan was alone, she had no protection.
Amber......

Please fill in the above

 

[Emre E]

And connect, means "two things". If you only found the mom, would you think she has a baby? I have a special medal for the first person to say "Cesarean incision", don't go fancy, say you found only bones. Percentage?

You found the baby, would you think that she has a mom? Percentage?

.... or let's get back to where it begins. Who died first? Mom or baby?

 

[twocuriouscats]

OK. This is very simple. I know these are facts. Please don't ask me for links all is in this website.

Maureen's buddies left NY. Maureen was alone, she had no protection.
Melissa was off with BF . Melissa was alone, she had no protection.
Megan stepped out of the hotel in the middle of the night, Megan was alone, she had no protection.
Amber......

Please fill in the above

"Amber" was a heroin addict and ruled by her addictions, bless her heart. ALL of the girls used drugs (I would to if I had to sell myself to survive and feed my kids). Is that what you mean?

 

[twocuriouscats]

.... or let's get back to where it begins. Who died first? Mom or baby?

Gosh, I always assumed it was the Mother. I have also suspected that the perp was the toddler's father, albeit not known to many people.

To your other question: If I found the Mom I would not think there was a child. Mom would have to be ID'd and a baby known to belong to her and missing. Same with baby. It's very sad.

Have to break now....TTYL!

 

[Just K]

http://www.pressherald.com/2013/11/17/maine_sex_trafficking_takes_human_toll_/

Meserve said she learned only weeks before Waterman disappeared that her niece’s new boyfriend had been taking her to New York to prostitute her. But she learned that Cruz wasn’t the first man to do so.

“When I realized it was true about Akeem (Cruz), I called her up and said, ‘What are you doing?’ And she said, ‘I don’t do this all the time. It’s just a couple of times,’” Meserve said, recalling one of their last conversations. “She wanted to stop. She wanted him to be her boyfriend.”

Well, that is the first time I've noticed the bolded above. I wonder if it was R. Blake or even another or others and if it wasn't Blake then who was the first? Who did the recruiters work for? ...