PR interview

[Ames]

Det. Haney: Patsy, I'd like for you to take a look at this picture of JonBenet's bathroom.

Patsy: Oh,my God! What's that toilet doing in there?

Det. Haney: What do you mean?

Patsy: That toilet shouldn't be there!

Det. Haney: Okay. Now take a look at this picture of her bedroom.

Patsy: Those beds! What are those beds doing in there? Those beds shouldn't be in there! Who put those beds in there, do you know?

Det. Haney: Okay. Moving on to the next picture. It's of your kitchen.

Patsy: This is very weird. That refrigerator shouldn't be there!

Det. Haney: It shouldn't?

Patsy: No, it shouldn't!


-Tea

LOL...thanks for the laugh...I am obviously slow. At first, when I read the first two lines, I was like "WHAT? I don't remember THAT being in the interview...man, she HAS LOST IT". :laugh: I am surprised that the interview didn't go the way you described, everything else seemed to be out of place. The kleenex box, the pineapple bowl, the tea glass, the nightnight goggles, the flashlight, the supplies from her medical drawer, JB's barbie nightgown...need I go on??

 

[Ames]

Patsy: How did this food get in my mouth? Whose clothes are these on my body?

You and Tea are cracking me up...stop it. :laugh:

 

[Ames]

or I wonder if PR was crying after JB died,and she used some of it for that?Since she had on fresh makeup,was it from the night b/f,or put on later?I wonder if maybe she washed the old off,and put on new,once she regained some composure.

Never thought of that, I bet thats the reason for the kleenexes.

 

[Ames]

Paper tissues are for people with snotty noses. JonBenet had a snotty nose at the time she was murdered.

Why didn't Patsy just SAY that, then? "JonBenet had a runny nose, thats why the kleenex box is out". Why try to distance herself from that particular box of Kleenexes? I have NO DOUBT that the Ramsey's left that box out, for whatever reason. My point was that she was trying to distance herself (saying that she didn't know where it came from, or that it was "out of place") from a LOT of things...even a small thing such as a kleenex box. Gee Patsy, can you tell the truth for ONCE?

 

[Toltec]

How many other items did she distance herself from??? Anyone???

The sweater...she says it could have been Priscillas..Priscilla has one just like hers, she could have been cold at the Whites so Priscilla lends her the sweater.

The flashlight...it kind of looks like Johns.

 

[JMO8778]

How many other items did she distance herself from??? Anyone???

The sweater...she says it could have been Priscillas..Priscilla has one just like hers, she could have been cold at the Whites so Priscilla lends her the sweater.

The flashlight...it kind of looks like Johns.

she said the ppr the RN was written on looked like it came from her notepad,even tho she was looking at a xeroxed copy of it.No way !

 

[Cranberry]

the bear!

 

[Ames]

She said that John's Night Vision Goggles were out of place. (I believe John used them that night). And also she said that some things from her medicine drawer was out of place...laying out, syringes, etc.

 

[BBB167893]

Are you serious?

 

[Ames]

Are you serious?

YEP...I will find that in the interview and post it.

Here ya go:

2 PATSY RAMSEY: Uh-huh (yes). Binoculars, a
3 stapler and... binoculars and a stapler
4 (inaudible).
5 TOM HANEY: Do those items appear to be out
6 of place?
7 PATSY RAMSEY: I mean, I don't know why the
8 binoculars would be there.
9 TRIP DeMUTH: Do you recognize the
10 binoculars?
11 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, they might kind of
12 look like -- they look kind of like one John had
13 on the sailboat which are night vision or
14 something, they were kind of heavy duty, but I
15 don't know for sure. I don't know why they
16 would be in Colorado.
17 He had all this stuff up in, the white
18 stuff up in the -- he had like a storage room of
19 sails and stuff like that. I don't know why
20 they would be here if they are, if that's what
21 those are.
22 We had a pair of binoculars up on the
23 dress -- the high boy up in John Andrew's room,
24 more like in a leather case, like a leather
25 binocular case.

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1 TRIP DeMUTH: Uh-huh (yes).
2 PATSY RAMSEY: I think these are sailing
3 because this yellow thing I think makes it float
4 or something a little. John would know if
5 that's what that was.
6 TRIP DeMUTH: But you don't recall those
7 being around the house?
8 PATSY RAMSEY: No, not, I can't
9 (inaudible).
10 TRIP DeMUTH: But they do look like
11 something that you owned at some point or --
12 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, well, he had, you
13 know, all that kind of gear for the sailboat
14 races they had to have a lot of stuff like that
15 and that, I mean, it looks like it might be kind
16 of more sailing equipment than just like bird
17 watching or something, you know.
18 TRIP DeMUTH: Okay. And you think it was
9 night vision stuff?
20 PATSY RAMSEY: I know he had a pair of
21 night vision on the sailboat.
22 TRIP DeMUTH: Is that something that you
23 would have left up there?
24 PATSY RAMSEY: Yeah.
25 TRIP DeMUTH: Okay. Now, those are not

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1 like regular binoculars, those are --
2 PATSY RAMSEY: Night vision are different.
3 TRIP DeMUTH: Well, yeah, and quite a bit
4 higher up the price range?
5 PATSY RAMSEY: Yeah.
6 TRIP DeMUTH: Significantly.
7 PATSY RAMSEY: Yeah. I don't even know
8 that that's them, that yellow piece made me
9 think of the sailboats that have yellow.
10 TRIP DeMUTH: Okay. But it looks like a
11 strap?
12 PATSY RAMSEY: Yeah.

​

 

[Ames]

How many other items did she distance herself from??? Anyone???

The sweater...she says it could have been Priscillas..Priscilla has one just like hers, she could have been cold at the Whites so Priscilla lends her the sweater.

The flashlight...it kind of looks like Johns.

What about the pictures of JB that were found in the laundry room? I guess that the "intruder" placed them there, because THEY were "out of place" too.

10 TRIP DeMUTH: And do you remember
11 photographs being -- photographs of JonBenet
12 being in there?
13 PATSY RAMSEY: Taken of her in the
14 laundry room?
15 TRIP DeMUTH: No, no. Photographs
16 of her located in the laundry room?
17 PATSY RAMSEY: Oh, in the laundry
18 room, oh. I don't know, there was a bunch of
19 stuff, I mean wrapping stuff and everything. I
20 don't remember any photographs.
21 TRIP DeMUTH: Is there any reason
22 why there would be photographs of JonBenet
23 located in the laundry room?
24 PATSY RAMSEY: No. Were there --
25 I mean, did somebody find them there?
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1 TRIP DeMUTH: If there were, would
2 that be out of place for you?
3 PATSY RAMSEY: It would seem to be
4 out of place. I kept wrapping materials and
5 sometimes I worked, wrapping station, Christmas
6 paper and --
7 TRIP DeMUTH: Would -- who else had
8 access to the laundry room, who else would go in
9 there? I know everybody would have access, but
10 who else would use it? Would the boys play in
11 there? Would John go down there?
12 PATSY RAMSEY: I mean anybody
13 could, but I mean the boys could come down and
14 go in the train room, we had the train set up.
15 In the far back in through there, you know. Not
16 in the laundry, really, area.
17 TRIP DeMUTH: Did anybody besides
18 you use that laundry room?
19 PATSY RAMSEY: Sometimes Linda
20 would wash, if we were washing comforters or
21 something, because those were big heavy-duty
22 laundry machines, she'd take the things in
23 there, rugs and things, and wash them down
24 there.
25 TRIP DeMUTH: Okay.

 

[Ames]

And the bathroom drawers were left open. Guess the "intruder" somehow managed to get into the bathroom to Patsy's and John's bedroom, too.


15 THOMAS HANEY: 32?
16 PATSY RAMSEY: That's the bathroom
17 to my bedroom.
18 THOMAS HANEY: Is that normally
19 used by anybody?
20 PATSY RAMSEY: Not on a day-to-day
21 basis, not really. I don't know why the drawers
22 would have been out, but...
23 THOMAS HANEY: What's normally
24 stored in those?
25 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, that's usually
0285
1 where I kept my supplies for my -- when I was
2 taking chemo, when I had my shots and my little
3 alcohol wipes, thermometers, and all that kind
4 of stuff. And I could have been looking
5 through, looking for a thermometer to take on
6 vacation.
7 TRIP DeMUTH: What's in the draw
8 below that one? There are two drawers open?
9 PATSY RAMSEY: I don't know, I
10 don't know. I just hadn't used it, all that
11 area, that much.
12 THOMAS HANEY: Okay. Number 33.
13 PATSY RAMSEY: This is the shot of
14 the bedroom, looking out through the door to her
15 door.
16 THOMAS HANEY: Anything unusual or
17 out of place or --
18 PATSY RAMSEY: No.
19 THOMAS HANEY: 34?
20 PATSY RAMSEY: I just can't imagine
21 why I would leave those open if I had done --
22 THOMAS HANEY: The drawers that you
23 were talking about earlier?
24 PATSY RAMSEY: Uh-hum.
25 VOICE: That's 34?
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1 PATSY RAMSEY: Yes.
2 TRIP DeMUTH: Did you have syringes
3 in there?
4 PATSY RAMSEY: I would have at one
5 time. Now, whether I had any in there now, I
6 don't remember. Seems like I got rid of all
7 that stuff. With kids around. I don't know. I
8 just wasn't in there that much. I can't tell
9 you.

 

[Ames]

This is really fun, finding all of these things that Patsy said was "out of place". Although, I have found ALOT more, its my bedtime, so I will post more of them tomorrow. In the meantime...heres, yet, another one.

3 PATSY RAMSEY: There. There is a tiny
4 yellowish color there. Can you see that?
5 I'm not sure if that is one of my kitchen
6 knives, to tell you the truth. That must be something.
7 TOM HANEY: We would have that.
8 PATSY RAMSEY: I could see that. In the
9 picture it looks like it is a very thin blade, like a
10 grapefruit knife or something.
11 TOM HANEY: What about the handle?
12 PATSY RAMSEY: I had some wooden handle
13 knives, but I don't know why I would have it there in
14 the kitchen, you know. I don't know why it is there.

Gee Patsy, I don't know WHY that darn grapefruit knife would be in the KITCHEN?!?! Gosh, darn it....that's an "awfully weird" place to have a GRAPEFRUIT KNIFE....since most people cut up their grapefruit in the bathroom....

 

[UKGuy]

What about the pictures of JB that were found in the laundry room? I guess that the "intruder" placed them there, because THEY were "out of place" too.

10 TRIP DeMUTH: And do you remember
11 photographs being -- photographs of JonBenet
12 being in there?
13 PATSY RAMSEY: Taken of her in the
14 laundry room?
15 TRIP DeMUTH: No, no. Photographs
16 of her located in the laundry room?
17 PATSY RAMSEY: Oh, in the laundry
18 room, oh. I don't know, there was a bunch of
19 stuff, I mean wrapping stuff and everything. I
20 don't remember any photographs.
21 TRIP DeMUTH: Is there any reason
22 why there would be photographs of JonBenet
23 located in the laundry room?
24 PATSY RAMSEY: No. Were there --
25 I mean, did somebody find them there?
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1 TRIP DeMUTH: If there were, would
2 that be out of place for you?
3 PATSY RAMSEY: It would seem to be
4 out of place. I kept wrapping materials and
5 sometimes I worked, wrapping station, Christmas
6 paper and --
7 TRIP DeMUTH: Would -- who else had
8 access to the laundry room, who else would go in
9 there? I know everybody would have access, but
10 who else would use it? Would the boys play in
11 there? Would John go down there?
12 PATSY RAMSEY: I mean anybody
13 could, but I mean the boys could come down and
14 go in the train room, we had the train set up.
15 In the far back in through there, you know. Not
16 in the laundry, really, area.
17 TRIP DeMUTH: Did anybody besides
18 you use that laundry room?
19 PATSY RAMSEY: Sometimes Linda
20 would wash, if we were washing comforters or
21 something, because those were big heavy-duty
22 laundry machines, she'd take the things in
23 there, rugs and things, and wash them down
24 there.
25 TRIP DeMUTH: Okay.

Ames,

A thread has been raised on this topic , the speculation was that

10 TRIP DeMUTH: And do you remember
11 photographs being -- photographs of JonBenet
[12 being in there?

possibly refers to someone's personal collection of favorite JonBenet photographs, and did this collection include any posed or pageant photographs that might be deemed innapropriate, if so, was this the impetus behind the issuing of search warrants to look for child in the Ramsey residences, and could this collection have been deliberately left in the Laundry Room to distance them from their owner?


.

 

[JMO8778]

YEP...I will find that in the interview and post it.

Here ya go:

2 PATSY RAMSEY: Uh-huh (yes). Binoculars, a
3 stapler and... binoculars and a stapler
4 (inaudible).
5 TOM HANEY: Do those items appear to be out
6 of place?
7 PATSY RAMSEY: I mean, I don't know why the
8 binoculars would be there.
9 TRIP DeMUTH: Do you recognize the
10 binoculars?
11 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, they might kind of
12 look like -- they look kind of like one John had
13 on the sailboat which are night vision or
14 something, they were kind of heavy duty, but I
15 don't know for sure. I don't know why they
16 would be in Colorado.
17 He had all this stuff up in, the white
18 stuff up in the -- he had like a storage room of
19 sails and stuff like that. I don't know why
20 they would be here if they are, if that's what
21 those are.
22 We had a pair of binoculars up on the
23 dress -- the high boy up in John Andrew's room,
24 more like in a leather case, like a leather
25 binocular case.

0555
1 TRIP DeMUTH: Uh-huh (yes).
2 PATSY RAMSEY: I think these are sailing
3 because this yellow thing I think makes it float
4 or something a little. John would know if
5 that's what that was.
6 TRIP DeMUTH: But you don't recall those
7 being around the house?
8 PATSY RAMSEY: No, not, I can't
9 (inaudible).
10 TRIP DeMUTH: But they do look like
11 something that you owned at some point or --
12 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, well, he had, you
13 know, all that kind of gear for the sailboat
14 races they had to have a lot of stuff like that
15 and that, I mean, it looks like it might be kind
16 of more sailing equipment than just like bird
17 watching or something, you know.
18 TRIP DeMUTH: Okay. And you think it was
9 night vision stuff?
20 PATSY RAMSEY: I know he had a pair of
21 night vision on the sailboat.
22 TRIP DeMUTH: Is that something that you
23 would have left up there?
24 PATSY RAMSEY: Yeah.
25 TRIP DeMUTH: Okay. Now, those are not

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1 like regular binoculars, those are --
2 PATSY RAMSEY: Night vision are different.
3 TRIP DeMUTH: Well, yeah, and quite a bit
4 higher up the price range?
5 PATSY RAMSEY: Yeah.
6 TRIP DeMUTH: Significantly.
7 PATSY RAMSEY: Yeah. I don't even know
8 that that's them, that yellow piece made me
9 think of the sailboats that have yellow.
10 TRIP DeMUTH: Okay. But it looks like a
11 strap?
12 PATSY RAMSEY: Yeah.

can those be used to see in the daytime as well? b/c in DOI,he states he used binoculars to check out the 'strange vehicle' near the Barnhill's,and I wonder if he was just trying to account for them being left out.

 

[JMO8778]

And the bathroom drawers were left open. Guess the "intruder" somehow managed to get into the bathroom to Patsy's and John's bedroom, too.


15 THOMAS HANEY: 32?
16 PATSY RAMSEY: That's the bathroom
17 to my bedroom.
18 THOMAS HANEY: Is that normally
19 used by anybody?
20 PATSY RAMSEY: Not on a day-to-day
21 basis, not really. I don't know why the drawers
22 would have been out, but...
23 THOMAS HANEY: What's normally
24 stored in those?
25 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, that's usually
0285
1 where I kept my supplies for my -- when I was
2 taking chemo, when I had my shots and my little
3 alcohol wipes, thermometers, and all that kind
4 of stuff. And I could have been looking
5 through, looking for a thermometer to take on
6 vacation.
7 TRIP DeMUTH: What's in the draw
8 below that one? There are two drawers open?
9 PATSY RAMSEY: I don't know, I
10 don't know. I just hadn't used it, all that
11 area, that much.
12 THOMAS HANEY: Okay. Number 33.
13 PATSY RAMSEY: This is the shot of
14 the bedroom, looking out through the door to her
15 door.
16 THOMAS HANEY: Anything unusual or
17 out of place or --
18 PATSY RAMSEY: No.
19 THOMAS HANEY: 34?
20 PATSY RAMSEY: I just can't imagine
21 why I would leave those open if I had done --
22 THOMAS HANEY: The drawers that you
23 were talking about earlier?
24 PATSY RAMSEY: Uh-hum.
25 VOICE: That's 34?
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1 PATSY RAMSEY: Yes.
2 TRIP DeMUTH: Did you have syringes
3 in there?
4 PATSY RAMSEY: I would have at one
5 time. Now, whether I had any in there now, I
6 don't remember. Seems like I got rid of all
7 that stuff. With kids around. I don't know. I
8 just wasn't in there that much. I can't tell
9 you.

if they found alcohol residue where JB's nose had been wiped off,that's just yet another reason they should have been arrested and tried.it's not like a child would go wipe their nose with that.I can't believe they got away with it,what with all the nonsense that went on,esp in these interviews.

 

[JMO8778]

Ames,

A thread has been raised on this topic , the speculation was that

possibly refers to someone's personal collection of favorite JonBenet photographs, and did this collection include any posed or pageant photographs that might be deemed innapropriate, if so, was this the impetus behind the issuing of search warrants to look for child in the Ramsey residences, and could this collection have been deliberately left in the Laundry Room to distance them from their owner?


.

I wonder that too.It's another red flag,IMO,that she was being abused.Along with the fiber evidence found,and JR trying to account for his underwear fibers being in her room,I'm not sure it leaves much room for doubt.

 

[Nuisanceposter]

Excellent observations, Ames. How were these people not arrested? Good lord.

 

[Ames]

22 TOM HANEY: Have you ever since
23 that day read the entire note?
24 PATSY RAMSEY: Oh, yes.
25 TOM HANEY: Okay. Probably on more
0037
1 than one occasion?
2 PATSY RAMSEY: Uh-hum.
3 TOM HANEY: And in looking at it,
4 these are the times when you have -- and looking
5 at it today, do you notice anything about it,
6 anything that you recognize, anything that looks
7 familiar, similar to anything you have seen
8 before?
9 PATSY RAMSEY: This M kind of looks
10 like an M that I have seen somebody make. I
11 don't know -- I have wracked my brain over this
12 a million times. But you know, everything else
13 was just, you know --
14 TOM HANEY: Do you notice any
15 similarities to, say, your style of indentation
16 and signing off and the use of exclamation
17 points, anything like that?
18 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, I mean, as you
19 know, I have had umpteen handwriting samples and
20 they all want to say that, you know, my A's look
21 like this or --
22 TOM HANEY: I am not talking so
23 much about the handwriting itself. I am talking
24 about the style of the "Mr. Ramsey"?
25 Introduction, the indentation, the signing off
0038
1 at the end?
2 PATSY RAMSEY: No.
3 TOM HANEY: No? Similar to your
4 style?
5 PATSY RAMSEY: No. I usually sign
6 "regards" or something like that. "Love".

And in the portion of the interview, she says that the M in the ransom note looks like one that she has seen "somebody" make. What is kind of funny to me, is her last sentence. In other words she is saying...."I couldn't have written that ransom note, because I usually sign "regards" or something like that. "Love". " Okay, we all no that the ransom note was pretty polite, well...how more unbelievable would it be if it had of said..."Regards, SBTC"...or even BETTER....."LOVE, SBTC"??? Patsy wouldn't have been THAT stupid.

 

[Ames]

25 TOM HANEY: Okay. Ms. Ramsey, are
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1 you aware that there had been prior vaginal
2 intrusion on JonBenet?
3 PATSY RAMSEY: No, I am not.
4 Prior to the night she was killed?
5 TOM HANEY: Correct.
6 PATSY RAMSEY: No, I am not.
7 TOM HANEY: Didn't know that?
8 PATSY RAMSEY: No, I didn't.
9 TOM HANEY: Does that surprise you?
10 PATSY RAMSEY: Extremely.
11 TOM HANEY: Does that shock you?
12 PATSY RAMSEY: It shocks me.
13 TOM HANEY: Does it bother you?
14 PATSY RAMSEY: Yes, it does.
15 TOM HANEY: Who, how could she have
16 been violated like that?
17 PATSY RAMSEY: I don't know. This
18 is the absolute first time I ever heard that.

She doesn't seemed too shocked or bothered by it to me??? She actually didn't act very surprised at all.