questions about asphyxiation

  • #21
Sorry, BC, I was interrupted while reading the thread and missed your post. It wasn't there when I got up to answer the door.

Do we know for a fact that Patsy wouldn't have capitalized "mom" and "dad"? Anyway, I don't see anything in your post that really indicates that Burke wrote the note.
 
  • #22
  • #23
Britt said:
The JonBenet ad was written in the first person, too, and we know she didn't write it:


We also know that, because of the obvious Ramsey coverup, at least one of the three Ramseys in the house that night was involved in the death of JonBenet. And from all of the government's handwiting analyses we also know that neither John nor Patsy wrote the ransom note. Now WHO does that leave?

JMO
 
  • #24
Posted by BlueCrab
"And from all of the government's handwiting analyses we also know that neither John nor Patsy wrote the ransom note."

When did we arrive at that conclusion? I thought we were still arguing over it. lol
 
  • #25
BlueCrab said:
We also know that, because of the obvious Ramsey coverup, at least one of the three Ramseys in the house that night was involved in the death of JonBenet.
Yep.


And from all of the government's handwiting analyses we also know that neither John nor Patsy wrote the ransom note.
Is that the Royal "We," BlueCrab? (King Crab? :D) 'Cause "WE" know no such thing.
 
  • #26
Britt said:
Yep.



Is that the Royal "We," BlueCrab? (King Crab? :D) 'Cause "WE" know no such thing.


WE know Patsy Ramsey likely didn't write the ransom note .

signed:

Leonard Speckin, private examiner

Edwin F. Alford, Jr., private examiner

Lloyd Cunningham, private examiner

Richard Dusak, U.S. Secret Service examiner

Howard Rile, private examiner


JMO
 
  • #27
The first person writing of captions under other people's pictures means nothing. People who do scrapbooks write that way all the time. Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't, but I have personally known many many others who do the captions that way. I'm not trained at all in any type of handwriting analysis, I'm just telling you that I know for a fact that it is very common for some to write about the pictures like they were the ones in the photograph when they weren't.
 
  • #28
cookie said:
The first person writing of captions under other people's pictures means nothing. People who do scrapbooks write that way all the time. Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't, but I have personally known many many others who do the captions that way. I'm not trained at all in any type of handwriting analysis, I'm just telling you that I know for a fact that it is very common for some to write about the pictures like they were the ones in the photograph when they weren't.

That's true, but would Patsy have left out the word "is" and would she have unnecessarily capitalized the words "mom" and "dad" in:

"This me when I was first born. That's my Mom and the doctor."

and

"I was 2. I was going bike riding with my Mom and my Dad."

Please remember that the words "police" and "law" were also unnecessarily capitalized in the ransom note. It suggests the writer, who in my opinion was a young person, was impressed by things that represented authority, such as mom, dad, police, and law.

Just my opinion.

BlueCrab
 
  • #29
I agree, Cookie. Scrapbooking is very popular where I live, and people write that way more often than not (in the ones I've viewed, anyway). I tend to think that Patsy did the scrapbook writing herself.

BlueCrab, I like a lot of your theory, but I can't agree that the note was written by a 9-10 year old child. The handwriting itself looks "adult" to me, though I'm no expert.
 
  • #30
Nehemiah said:
I agree, Cookie. Scrapbooking is very popular where I live, and people write that way more often than not (in the ones I've viewed, anyway). I tend to think that Patsy did the scrapbook writing herself.

BlueCrab, I like a lot of your theory, but I can't agree that the note was written by a 9-10 year old child. The handwriting itself looks "adult" to me, though I'm no expert.


Nehemiah,

The appearance of the writing in the ransom note closely matches the writing in Burke's photo album. My theory is that Burke wrote both but was only the SCRIBE (he only penned it) in the ransom note, but he was not the author of the ransom note. The author of the ransom note dictated most of it to Burke. The note's ridiculous choice of words and phrases reads like its author was a male teen.

JMO
 
  • #31
BlueCrab said:
WE know Patsy Ramsey likely didn't write the ransom note .
signed:
Leonard Speckin, private examiner
Edwin F. Alford, Jr., private examiner
Lloyd Cunningham, private examiner
Richard Dusak, U.S. Secret Service examiner
Howard Rile, private examiner
So these guys were able to eliminate Patsy, were they?

By the way, who does the list consist of once the Ramseys' personal experts are removed? And, of those remaining, were they able to eliminate Patsy?
 
  • #32
cookie said:
The first person writing of captions under other people's pictures means nothing. People who do scrapbooks write that way all the time.
Good observation, cookie.

And in any case, we know it was the Ramseys' style because of the above-posted ad they wrote for JonBenet. It's probably safe to assume Burke didn't write the ad.
 
  • #33
The device ,I believe ,used by Burke to walk the dog,was a collared arrangement attached to a longer leatherlike apparatus with an opening for a human hand. In my part of the woods it's called a leash.
 
  • #34
Britt said:
So these guys were able to eliminate Patsy, were they?

By the way, who does the list consist of once the Ramseys' personal experts are removed? And, of those remaining, were they able to eliminate Patsy?

As I remember, they couldn't eliminate Patsy and dozens of others as the possible writer of the ransom note, including Chris Wolf, Glenn Meyer, Gary Merriman, and Janet McReynolds.

JMO
 

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