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[Miz Adventure]

They may one day "close" the case, but it will be nothing more than a technicality and semantics.

No one will ever be charged in this case.

No persons will ever be officially named as the perpetrators by anyone in any official capacity. Ever.

Each subsequent DA, including the current one, will gladly enjoy the headlines and publicity the case may bring them, and will play along for their own benefit.

Every 5-10 years public interest will increase with the "anniversary", but never again as large as this 20th.

Which of you is bringing refreshments for the 2021 reunion?

As I understand the law, the Statute of Limitations on the True Bill indictments for the Ramseys expired soon after the GJ disbanded so those particular charges cannot be brought again.

Burke can NEVER be charged with the crime unless somebody brings a civil case against him.


As for the 2021 reunion - Pasta Jay's is still in business.

 

[buggiegirl]

IMO the case has already been solved. It can't be closed because the media would want answers, answers that can't be given without infringing upon the rights of a (then) minor. So the case will remain unsolved and open until all parties are dead and gone.


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I like to imagine the DNA from the undies showing up in a database eventually and that person turning out to have an iron clad alibi they can prove, so everyone will finally have to admit the DNA is not related to the crime. It wouldn't "solve" the case per se, but it would be a pretty definitive end to the only piece of evidence the IDIs have.

 

[kanzz]

Oh! yes ditto. My word. I said earlier that BKY boy was probably molesting her. Could that be the blood? the fact that she had to give in to his will? She was probably used to it. It could be used in both ways. If I can do this...you can do that! Could it be that mommy dearest came down on this "picture" and straight away grabbed and yanked JB for her own sake and THEN SEND THE BROTHER UP TO BED..BUT THERE IS STILL THE TAPE WHERE HE ASKS A QUESTION:shame: So momma knew this will be coming to light coz the school nurse might not have been so stupid? THIS WAS A HUGE ACCIDENT AND WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN TO THE R'S. How can someone be so coldhearted? Or rather - it must have been traumatizing for who ever was the leading adult factor. Maybe one day B key will ask an amount of money to give his own details about that night. My children can remember LONG AGO very well:thinking:

BBM

ditto? to what? and what is BKY please? I'm not familiar.

Ligature strangulation = NOT an accident.

Nothing "happened TO the R's".. except JB, and she was murdered by one of the other Rs. Which one of them do you think was so cold-hearted?

 

[Ambitioned]

I'm guessing BKY is their nick for 'Burkey.' *shrugs*

Buggiegirl, that would be nice but my gut says the DNA is just worthless, especially if its a composite.

It will be interesting to see if retesting shows any results.

 

[Userid]

Truly.

More info at FFJ:
http://www.forumsforjustice.org/for...l-in-the-Name-of-JonBenet-on-January-1st-1997

Many follow-up questions suggest themselves. Right now I'm struck again by the timing, not only a week after JBR's death, but also in terms of JR's rumored ousting from AG on the same day as the order.

This ties in with JR's powers of deception/manipulation but will not, I hope, distract from qft's excellent and more comprehensive post at #1285.

Hey Meara, this is odd to say the least. Couldn't it simply be someone messing with JR? I mean, I'm sure at that time, there were just as many people who felt like he committed the crime -- maybe one of those people (in the area) wanted to send him some sort of a message. This person could have been a complete stranger who never had anything to do with the family, but heard of the story and decided to "prank" or even "intimidate" JR. I guess my point is, do we know, definitively, that the doll was purchased by someone in the R household? Because it obviously wasn't purchased by JBR, and I can't fathom why JR would order it himself -- unless it was PR that ordered it, and wanted to mess with JR (remind him what he did? etc.). Or was this simply more along the lines of "staging" an intruder, who was now still targeting JR (just as "he" did in the ransom note) and who was now taunting him?

I also can't help but think of the disturbing bound-barbies found on the R's lawn after the murder. Could it have been the same person (whether that person was some stranger, or JR/PR) taunting the family?

 

[AndHence]

Hey Meara, this is odd to say the least. Couldn't it simply be someone messing with JR? I mean, I'm sure at that time, there were just as many people who felt like he committed the crime -- maybe one of those people (in the area) wanted to send him some sort of a message. This person could have been a complete stranger who never had anything to do with the family, but heard of the story and decided to "prank" or even "intimidate" JR. I guess my point is, do we know, definitively, that the doll was purchased by someone in the R household? Because it obviously wasn't purchased by JBR, and I can't fathom why JR would order it himself -- unless it was PR that ordered it, and wanted to mess with JR (remind him what he did? etc.). Or was this simply more along the lines of "staging" an intruder, who was now still targeting JR (just as "he" did in the ransom note) and who was now taunting him?

I also can't help but think of the disturbing bound-barbies found on the R's lawn after the murder. Could it have been the same person (whether that person was some stranger, or JR/PR) taunting the family?

If this was a revenge killing, why hide or redress the body? The body would have been displayed under the Christmas tree or something, not wrapped in a blanket. If someone from Access Graphics was involved, why leave a handwritten note? They had to know John's coworkers would be looked at and asked to give handwriting samples (which they were). In fact, John threw a handful of them under the bus and all were vetted and cleared by LE.

 

[Rott Mom]

I would really like to know why LHP cleaned up JBR's bowel movement as big as a grapefruit, and "caught" BR playing "doctor" with his sister...so why didn't she call the appropriate authorities? Believe me, I'm not beating up LHP, it's just another reason the R's are in control - IMO!

 

[Tadpole12]

Hey Meara, this is odd to say the least. Couldn't it simply be someone messing with JR? I mean, I'm sure at that time, there were just as many people who felt like he committed the crime -- maybe one of those people (in the area) wanted to send him some sort of a message. This person could have been a complete stranger who never had anything to do with the family, but heard of the story and decided to "prank" or even "intimidate" JR. I guess my point is, do we know, definitively, that the doll was purchased by someone in the R household? Because it obviously wasn't purchased by JBR, and I can't fathom why JR would order it himself -- unless it was PR that ordered it, and wanted to mess with JR (remind him what he did? etc.). Or was this simply more along the lines of "staging" an intruder, who was now still targeting JR (just as "he" did in the ransom note) and who was now taunting him?

I also can't help but think of the disturbing bound-barbies found on the R's lawn after the murder. Could it have been the same person (whether that person was some stranger, or JR/PR) taunting the family?

or a tabloid looking to generate a story?

 

[TeaTime]

I would really like to know why LHP cleaned up JBR's bowel movement as big as a grapefruit, and "caught" BR playing "doctor" with his sister...so why didn't she call the appropriate authorities? Believe me, I'm not beating up LHP, it's just another reason the R's are in control - IMO!

Call the authorities because someone pooped in the bed? Call the authorities because they were caught playing doctor?

How about tell the parent, the employer?

Seriously, if I were the housekeeper and this is all I saw, over a period of 2 years working there 3 days per week and having spent probably 300 days in the house, the last thing on my mind would be to call the authorities. I would tell the parent. And, I would expect the same from my own housekeeper.

 

[Miz Adventure]

"A bowel movement as big as a grapefruit" may have simply meant the actual size of the stain on the sheet, not the actual size of the lump.

I'm not even certain an adult could do one that size - but I don't really want to dwell on it.

 

[digginin]

I think she was very too little for that! Really! I would rather say I wonder where the blood from the headwound went? Headwounds can really bleed. I would like to know if anyone can also see that there was a "stickman" drawn on her hand also. This could've been done by herself. Yes the blood on too large panties? I do like your version of daddy in this case. Excellent. I had the same feeling about him. I first thought he did not put her into her own bed, but with him and P saw he was fondling with her. I then thought P yanked her from the bed and the head bashed in. Now...mmm you have a point. Not that he saw her as a :future: showgirl - no - maybe he was or still is sick in his head:facepalm:

 

[DrollForeignFaction]

I think she was very too little for that! Really! I would rather say I wonder where the blood from the headwound went? Headwounds can really bleed. I would like to know if anyone can also see that there was a "stickman" drawn on her hand also. This could've been done by herself. Yes the blood on too large panties? I do like your version of daddy in this case. Excellent. I had the same feeling about him. I first thought he did not put her into her own bed, but with him and P saw he was fondling with her. I then thought P yanked her from the bed and the head bashed in. Now...mmm you have a point. Not that he saw her as a :future: showgirl - no - maybe he was or still is sick in his head:facepalm:

Actually, the head wound did not produce any blood. It didn't break the skin and no one knew it had occurred until the autopsy when her scalp was peeled back.

 

[Tadpole12]

http://digestion.ygoy.com/2011/09/18/what-causes-large-stools/

"large stools which are both large in length and diameter. The problem is common among children too. The size would be large enough to clog toilets."


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/5c/00/c9/5c00c9539be375a154e4d11030d9b27c.jpg

(see Bristol Stool Chart)

 

[Userid]

If this was a revenge killing, why hide or redress the body? The body would have been displayed under the Christmas tree or something, not wrapped in a blanket. If someone from Access Graphics was involved, why leave a handwritten note? They had to know John's coworkers would be looked at and asked to give handwriting samples (which they were). In fact, John threw a handful of them under the bus and all were vetted and cleared by LE.

I never said this was a revenge killing. You must have misinterpreted my previous post.

I'm an RDI.

 

[SS 396 SS]

Actually, the head wound did not produce any blood. It didn't break the skin and no one knew it had occurred until the autopsy when her scalp was peeled back.

The Ramsey's would have known.
Ever since this story broke out on the news it has been known there was no blood. I don't know how people can still think there was. Then again when I look back over the few posts I've made here I see all kinda stuff I got wrong.

 

[kanzz]

The Ramsey's would have known.
Ever since this story broke out on the news it has been known there was no blood. I don't know how people can still think there was. Then again when I look back over the few posts I've made here I see all kinda stuff I got wrong.

BBM

If BDI all (as I suspect), probably the only way PR / JR would have known is if BR told her/them.

 

[SS 396 SS]

BBM

If BDI all (as I suspect), probably the only way PR / JR would have known is if BR told her/them.

Yea that's what I was gettin at. If it had been me I would have made the lil weasel face come clean for sure.

 

[Miz Adventure]

BBM

If BDI all (as I suspect), probably the only way PR / JR would have known is if BR told her/them.

Do you mean that the only way theat PR would have known about the head blow would be if BR had told her?

Yes if PR had found her daughter lying prone she would have asked BR what happened. However, I believe PR found JBR's body much later than that - after BR had strangled her. When it was obviously far too late to do anything to save her.

I will never, not in a million years ever accept that PR strangled her daughter.

I think that if PR had found her daughter lying on the floor unconscious she would have called 911 and got the paramedics there ASAP.

Yes I know that parents kill their children, it happens. But those circumstances are usually quite different - it happens when parents (for warped reasons of their own) actually want their children out of the way.

I do not believe the R's were evil people, just a couple who covered up a terrible crime in order to save their son.

Imo.

 

[kanzz]

Do you mean that the only way theat PR would have known about the head blow would be if BR had told her?

Yes if PR had found her daughter lying prone she would have asked BR what happened. However, I believe PR found JBR's body much later than that - after BR had strangled her. When it was obviously far too late to do anything to save her.

I will never, not in a million years ever accept that PR strangled her daughter.

I think that if PR had found her daughter lying on the floor unconscious she would have called 911 and got the paramedics there ASAP.

Yes I know that parents kill their children, it happens. But those circumstances are usually quite different - it happens when parents (for warped reasons of their own) actually want their children out of the way.

I do not believe the R's were evil people, just a couple who covered up a terrible crime in order to save their son.

Imo.

Yes, that's what I meant. I guess I should have taken it a bit further. And I should have emphasized the word "if". Do I actually think BR told PR what he had done? No.

I agree with your theory - I think PR discovered JB after BR had already strangled her, that neither PR nor JR did that, and if one of them had found her before she was strangled they would have called 911.

Sure, parents kill. But they kill outright. They don't kill just to cover up what would otherwise appear to be an accident or a sudden illness. So, unless you think PDI all (and I don't), it doesn't make sense for her to strangle JB, imo.

 

[SS 396 SS]

Yes, that's what I meant. I guess I should have taken it a bit further. And I should have emphasized the word "if". Do I actually think BR told PR what he had done? No.

I agree with your theory - I think PR discovered JB after BR had already strangled her, that neither PR nor JR did that, and if one of them had found her before she was strangled they would have called 911.

Sure, parents kill. But they kill outright. They don't kill just to cover up what would otherwise appear to be an accident or a sudden illness. So, unless you think PDI all (and I don't), it doesn't make sense for her to strangle JB, imo.

I still think its likely he fessed up to them about it. Who would find their child dead and not get down to the bottom of it?