Ramsey Friend, Member of "Small Foreign Faction", Was Never Investigated

[BlueCrab]

Are you, or are you not posting at jamesons and saying you don't really believe the stuff you are posting here?

Enquiring minds want to know

Jayelles,

I don't post at Jameson's forum, nor do I even read there. Is there someone using the BlueCrab name and posting over there? If so, it sounds like a typical Jameson dirty trick in progress.

BlueCrab

Edited to add that I wouldn't touch Jameson's site with a 10-foot pole. I made several posts over there 2 or 3 years ago but Jameson twisted what I had posted, said that "BlueCrab was full of it", and then promptly deleted all of my posts. That lady puts Joseph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister, to shame with her control of free speech.

BlueCrab

 

[Camper]

Isn't that interesting?

I am so dumb I did not even know Jameson still had a forum, OR that we could print her name out in full here?

It has always been enough to post here at WS, I never was too interested in what the neighbors had to say. One forum is plenty for me.




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[Jayelles]

Yes, there is a Bluecrab posting at jamesons saying that Burke didn't do it and that you've been kidding us all on that this was your theory:-

http://www.webbsleuths.org/dcforum/DCForumID61/33.html#26

 

[BlueCrab]

Yes, there is a Bluecrab posting at jamesons saying that Burke didn't do it and that you've been kidding us all on that this was your theory:-

http://www.webbsleuths.org/dcforum/DCForumID61/33.html#26

Jayelles,

Thanks for letting me know what Jameson is up to. The imposter over there sure knows a lot about my BDI theories, which may narrow down the number of persons who may be the imposter. I'm gonna start a new thread and smoke him out.

BlueCrab

 

[Miss Daisey]

Thank you Camper. Here's how I see it:

Political conservative billionaire Rupert Murdoch, who owns Fox, will probably fight the Ramsey v Fox News battle all the way to a court conclusion. Burke is not the main subject in this defamation lawsuit, so the litigants won't likely be forced to settle due to the Colorado Children's Code that protects the identities of children under 10 years of age.

The politically liberal news networks (CBS, NBC, and ABC) will likely continue to cooperate with the legal coverup that has been in place since 1999 and they will try to convince the public that an intruder killed JonBenet by continuing to give the Ramsey camp forums to present their views. Don't expect those networks to give a venue to those who know better.

Neither John Ramsey nor Patsy Ramsey killed JonBenet, so they will never be charged with anything -- including the obstruction of justice.

JMO

Not so fast , Blue Crab

There's still the option of The United States vs Whomever in a civil rights case for the denial of one JonBenet Ramsey the right to Life and Persuit of Happiness. Federal law over rides state law. That's probably the only way to route this case out of Colorado state.

That child deserves justice !

 

[TressaRing28]

Not so fast , Blue Crab

There's still the option of The United States vs Whomever in a civil rights case for the denial of one JonBenet Ramsey the right to Life and Persuit of Happiness. Federal law over rides state law. That's probably the only way to route this case out of Colorado state.

That child deserves justice !

Miss Daisey very good point.

 

[Camper]

My oldest son when around four years old would say something was 'Instressting'. Wonder if MR. L. WOOD tole the Ramseys that might be an option?

Miss Daisey, how come you are so smart ?, welcome! :clap:





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[BlueCrab]

I see where the DNA of Susannah Chase's killer has been analyzed by DNAPrint genomics and the race of the unknown killer is believed to be Hispanic or Native American. They aren't quite sure. Susannah was the CU student raped and killed with an aluminum baseball bat on the street in downtown Boulder on the night of December 20, 1997, almost exactly one year after JonBenet was murdered. Susannah was returning home from a CU graduation party when attacked. There have been no leads in Susannah's murder except for the DNA the killer left behind.

But here's one small but interesting part of the Susannah Chase investigation that could be a lead. Susannah Chase was a long-distance runner. In fact, she loved the sport so well that in October of each year, Susannah's family in Connecticut sponsors a long-distance charity race in her honor.

Nathan Inouye, even though he has an Asian name, in his picture does not appear to be Asian. Genetically, it's hard to determine his ethnic background from his picture on the APAC website.

Nevertheless, Nathan Inouye, about to graduate from CU, would also have likely been at a CU graduation party in Boulder on the night of December 20, 1997. I also have the records of Nathan Inouye's favorite competitive sport. Nathan, like Susannah, was a long-distance runner.

JMO

 

[Camper]

For those of you who have not been to this thread " Visit to Grave Site", you can play catch up on Blue Crabs information here.




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[Miss Daisey]

Blue Crab,

I also questioned whether the DNA in the Chase case could be that of an Asian as in the link via Sissi's post. Interesting.

Also, the sir name, Inouye, is Japanese, I believe. (There's a possiblity it's origian is Somoian). Wouldn't that put a crimp in the theory that S.B.T.C represented Asian countries if N (Japanese) were involved?

Further....this is off topic....I read that one of the investigating officers (?) had reported a window open where an extention cord ran outside the Ramsey home to the outside Christmas lights. Obviously, another possible site of entry to the home.

 

[BlueCrab]

Blue Crab,

I also questioned whether the DNA in the Chase case could be that of an Asian as in the link via Sissi's post. Interesting.

Also, the sir name, Inouye, is Japanese, I believe. (There's a possiblity it's origian is Somoian). Wouldn't that put a crimp in the theory that S.B.T.C represented Asian countries if N (Japanese) were involved?

Miss Daisey,

Why would that put a crimp in my theory that the initials S.B.T.C represent the respective countries of the individual APAC members involved in the APAC activity? The S, like you just said, could stand for Somoa. Asian Americans, like most of the rest of us in the USA, are often hybrids. That's why, IMO, Nathan Inouye probably has a Japanese background, but his facial features don't appear to be Asian, and his DNA might also be hard to identify in regard to ethnicity.

JMO

 

[Miss Daisey]

Blue Crab,

We're on the same "page". Your point is well made of mixed heritage. My point was that if he's Japanese with no connection to another ethnesity then that would not fit the theory.

What do you know about the extention cord for the outside Christmas lights?

 

[BlueCrab]

Blue Crab,

We're on the same "page". Your point is well made of mixed heritage. My point was that if he's Japanese with no connection to another ethnesity then that would not fit the theory.

What do you know about the extention cord for the outside Christmas lights?

Miss Daisey,

The extension cords for the outside Christmas lights went through a small hole in the furnace room window. It was impossible for a person to enter the basement that way.

IMO there was indeed a fifth, and perhaps a sixth, person in the house that night. But that person wasn't an uninvited intruder; he had obviously been invited in by a Ramsey, probably by Burke. Otherwise, there wouldn't be a need for the Ramsey lies, coverup, and obstruction of the investigation by the Ramseys. They would lie and coverup only for Burke, not an uninvited and unknown intruder.

JMO

 

[Camper]

Copying my stuff from the Visit the Grave thread per Blue Crab request

As follows:

Camper
Know all see all mom of 8

Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Colorado
Posts: 1,775


Hmmm

Interesting Sissi, I do not personally remember seeing or reading anything about the dna in Susanna's case.

I did some research at the time, and discovered that Susanna was quite an outdoors lover and into boating and water. She began competing running at a very young age, I seem to recall about 8 years old. I don't have my notes handy, they are buried in my garage after two moves in the last five years. So memory has dimmed as well. I felt so bad about her death, such a senseless act, for such a lovely young lady.

I vaguely remember that Pasta Jay's had kept a ball bat to discourage roudy students in his restaurant. Anyone else remember that? I am wondering if Pasta Jay's employee roster during that time might have had some of Blue Crabs Asian connection might have worked there. I dimly recall that JAR worked at Pasta Jay's while a student also.

I do also recall that Pasta Jay was not happy about the media hounding him, (because of his connection to John Ramsey and the restaurant) and took after two
men with a ball bat, who he thought were reporters - but that were just local folks.

I don't recall if the ball bat was found that killed Susanna!!

At one time, the Boulder Daily Camera Newspaper had quite a lot of links with information on Susanna Chase.

It would be interesting if there are any ex alumni of CU reading here that could tell us of any associations that Susanna belonged to, or if she was a popular figure
on campus, that might have drawn attention to 'the' perp who took her life?
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Can you please source your statement that Susannah Chase was a distance runner? NATHAN INOUYE WAS A DISTANCE RUNNER.

EDITED: Never mind Camper. I see the info about Susannah being a runner in the link from Sissi's post.

jmo

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Camper
Know all see all mom of 8

Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Colorado
Posts: 1,775


Ohhhhhh Sissi

Quote:
Originally Posted by sissi
hmm.. Camper, you just reminded me of something, not sure if I remember it well enough to share, however there was an employee of Pasta's that was arrested for something ...maybe attacking someone with a knife..I think Jay himself..I believe his name was "gardiner" a homeless man who thought Pasta had murdered Jonbenet..delusional..schizzy type?

okay..I looked around a bit and found this...

http://news4colorado.com/topstories..._020190649.html




Camper
----------->>>Sissi what a marvelous source you have provided.

Blue Crab, I am stunned by the info about Nathan I, being a runner. How did you find that??? Lets hope some pictures come forth that show him at the graduation. Wonder if he had pizza that night at ABO's, and did he use a credit card for it!!! Don't know how long credit card records are kept, probably on a disc or spool somewhere, huh?

Where is the car that Susanna was raped in? I don't know the process on student info, does it include drivers license info, checking by license registration could show a VIN# perhaps tying Nathan I to 'the car'.

I have goose bumps on this one, I think we could perhaps have a bingo!!!!!!!

Sissi, I don't take any local papers since my husband died last year, and NEVER took the Boulder Daily Camera, thanks for the great source to read further
about Susanna. www.news4Colorado.com.

I prowled the net last night for info on Susanna, Google only had one source - Cyber Sleuths, and Boulder D. C. has no archives and NOTHING on Susanna
on line anyway anymore!!!!!!! Everything that WAS archived is NOW gone.

My time online, age, and care for hubby did not give me the zest for tracking this case like Blue Crab has.

Let us pray that we have found something of value for PD.

Nothing was mentioned about the hi=tec dna system and Asian blood detecting abilities.



Blue Crab

You've asked a lot of good questions in this post. However, to help keep everything involving Nathan and APAC on one thread, would you consider transferring this post, or one like it, to the "Ramsey Friend, Member of Foreign Faction, Never Investigated" thread? Thanks.

BlueCrab




Ok stuff transferred to here, did I miss anything?


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[Miss Daisey]

Blue Crab,

I never said the "intruder" was a stranger or an "uninvited intruder"...rather a non resident in the Ramsey home. In an earlier post I believe I did title it "a stranger in the house", however, in response to another poster.

I note that Fleet White III doesn't appear in your theory of the kids being involved.

I'm having a difficult time with the idea of an adult being involved with the kids in this murder. It doesn't seem likely that he would trust their silence.

Until the host of the unidentified DNA has been found it would seem that the path of discovery would suggest who and how many persons were in the basement with JonBenet.

 

[Camper]

Just a note, about my/our re arranging of the deck furniture.

Another Question or two:

Question: Why would Ramseys leave the burglar alarm not engaged Christmas night?

My answer: Someone dear had not yet come home.
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Question: Did the Ramsey children AND the Stine boy go somewhere else with the Stine boy's tutor Nathan Inouye, Christmas night?

My answer: Hmmm ??
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Question: Did just Burke and Stine boy go somewhere else Christmas night with Nathan I.?

MY answer: Maybe, this would explain the dif in Burke and John answer about whether JonBenet walked up the stairs or was carried. Maybe Burke did not know cuz he was not with the Ramseys when they returned from delivering Christmas packages after Whites party.

------------------end of my questions for now.


When I was working hard on Susanna Chase case, I was trying to make a connection with her boating history and the Ramseys boating. Susanna family were avid boaters as well. There was a lot in the Boulder Daily Cam archives on that, but all the archives are gone - on line anyway.



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[Camper]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Movies+that+were+playing+in+Boulder+Christmas+night+1996

When you get here click on this link:

Rocky Mountain News:
This link is an incredible source of easy to read evidence connected to the Ramsey case, and tons of very easy to see picture of the home etc.

Edited to add: Here is a better link:
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_408302,00.html

The corrected link is a wonderful source for newbies LOTS of pictures, stun gun ?, and note picture of Burke's bedroom photo #42, perfectly made - looks unslept in. I realize that John spirited Burke out of the house that morning, did John make the bed before the crime photographers came?

snippet from the link:
References to popular movies: Language in the ransom note reflects that in several popular movies. The movie Ransom was playing in Boulder during December 1996, the month of JonBenet's death. It is the story of a child taken hostage for money. In addition, Smit said, there are references in the ransom note that echo lines in similar movies, such as Dirty Harry, Speed, Nick of Time and Ruthless People. The Ramseys didn't have such movies in their home, and hadn't
seen those movies, Smit said.'

Did Nathan I go to this movie alone or with someone, OR the Ramsey children and Stine boy? Likely imop.

Check out the picture of JonBenet bedroom near bottom just past the snippet above.

It appears to me that IF IF IF the children went somewhere with Nathan I, that she never ever went to her bedroom that night after they came home. This is a whole new thought for
me after a great time has elapsed since last I looked at the picture of her bedroom.


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[Miss Daisey]

Thank you Camper. Here's how I see it:

Political conservative billionaire Rupert Murdoch, who owns Fox, will probably fight the Ramsey v Fox News battle all the way to a court conclusion. Burke is not the main subject in this defamation lawsuit, so the litigants won't likely be forced to settle due to the Colorado Children's Code that protects the identities of children under 10 years of age.

The politically liberal news networks (CBS, NBC, and ABC) will likely continue to cooperate with the legal coverup that has been in place since 1999 and they will try to convince the public that an intruder killed JonBenet by continuing to give the Ramsey camp forums to present their views. Don't expect those networks to give a venue to those who know better.

Neither John Ramsey nor Patsy Ramsey killed JonBenet, so they will never be charged with anything -- including the obstruction of justice.

JMO

Rupert Murdoch's wealth trumps the Ramseys by a BUNCH. Wouldn't it be interesting if the judge allowed evidence about BR by Fox News in defense of their statements? After all, that's the purpose of a suit....a challenge to "prove it" or start writting that check.

There HAS to be a way (IMO) to move this case away from the Colorado courts.

I keep hoping a "former Federal Prosecutor" is reading the forum and will jump in here with some thoughts on the issue.

IMO

 

[BlueCrab]

There HAS to be a way (IMO) to move this case away from the Colorado courts.

Miss Daisey,

Ramsey v Fox News is a federal case. It was filed by the Ramseys in Atlanta's federal court.

JMO

 

[BlueCrab]

Camper,

Thanks for transferring that post on the "Gravesite" thread to this thread. I'd like to keep the Nathan and APAC questions, information and related comments together on this thread for the sake of future reference.

BlueCrab