Ramsey reaction to JonBenet's death

[Albert18]

"Ames,

Please explain the difference to me?"

Good, Ames hasn't answered yet so I see an opportunity.

I think the difference is in Patsy's mind.

 

[UKGuy]

"Ames,

Please explain the difference to me?"

Good, Ames hasn't answered yet so I see an opportunity.

I think the difference is in Patsy's mind.

Albert18,

Please tell me the difference you divine in Patsy's mind?


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[Ames]

Ames,

Please explain the difference to me?



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Sorry about not supplying a quick answer...I was offline.

Lets see....on one hand we have just a hit to the face with a golf club by her brother Burke. The Ramsey's probably even took Burke to the doctor with them, so that HE could explain what happened. That can be explained....he was probably swinging it around and accidently hit her with it. Stuff like that happens alot with kids....it was obviously an accident. He was a little kid, and so was she. On the other hand, we have a severe blow to the head, which cannot be explained away, no matter how hard they tried. Burke was only nine and not capable of causing that blow. Patsy, I am quite positive, heard the crack...she knew that it was not just a little boo-boo...and I am also quite positive that JB was unconscious. Knowing that doctors usually can tell when a person is lying, just by looking at the wound (for example: shaken baby syndrome, or a broken bone...the parent lies and says that the child fell from the crib or a chair...but, the Doctors know the truth). Doctors specialize in different types of wounds, and how they are caused...they would have known that JB didn't just fall off of her bike (too massive of a head wound for that), or fall down while skipping outside (again, too massive for that), or how likely would it be for JB to have fallen down a whole flight of stairs, and landed just so, for her wound to have been so enormous, and a part of the skull displaced? YOU tell ME what you think that Patsy's excuse would have been, IF she had of taken her unconscious daughter, with an obvious skull fracture to the ER. IMO...she wouldn't have been able to come up with one, that fit that horrible wound, or the crack in JB's skull that Patsy heard.

 

[UKGuy]

Sorry about not supplying a quick answer...I was offline.

Lets see....on one hand we have just a hit to the face with a golf club by her brother Burke. The Ramsey's probably even took Burke to the doctor with them, so that HE could explain what happened. That can be explained....he was probably swinging it around and accidently hit her with it. Stuff like that happens alot with kids....it was obviously an accident. He was a little kid, and so was she. On the other hand, we have a severe blow to the head, which cannot be explained away, no matter how hard they tried. Burke was only nine and not capable of causing that blow. Patsy, I am quite positive, heard the crack...she knew that it was not just a little boo-boo...and I am also quite positive that JB was unconscious. Knowing that doctors usually can tell when a person is lying, just by looking at the wound (for example: shaken baby syndrome, or a broken bone...the parent lies and says that the child fell from the crib or a chair...but, the Doctors know the truth). Doctors specialize in different types of wounds, and how they are caused...they would have known that JB didn't just fall off of her bike (too massive of a head wound for that), or fall down while skipping outside (again, too massive for that), or how likely would it be for JB to have fallen down a whole flight of stairs, and landed just so, for her wound to have been so enormous, and a part of the skull displaced? YOU tell ME what you think that Patsy's excuse would have been, IF she had of taken her unconscious daughter, with an obvious skull fracture to the ER. IMO...she wouldn't have been able to come up with one, that fit that horrible wound, or the crack in JB's skull that Patsy heard.

Ames,

No problem, if its an accident then that is Patsy's excuse just as it was the excuse when Burke whacked JonBenet, and that is the issue!

Because that never occurred allows an external observer to assume some other sequence of events took place.

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[Ames]

Ames,

No problem, if its an accident then that is Patsy's excuse just as it was the excuse when Burke whacked JonBenet, and that is the issue!

Because that never occurred allows an external observer to assume some other sequence of events took place.

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I must say....I enjoy sparring with you...LOL

Refresh me on your theory...you believe that the Ramsey's did it...but it was no accident, right?? I think that Patsy, for whatever reason, was angry at JB....(I am still stuck on a bed soiling incident), and shoved her into something in the bathroom...like the tub or the sink. I believe that she panicked and couldn't think of a good reason to tell the ER docs, why her daughters skull was cracked (again, I believe that she heard it)...and she was unconscious. I do believe that she was afraid of going to jail, so she and John staged an "intruder did it" crime scene...in hopes that maybe, they could fool everyone, and they wouldn't be thrown in jail. Afterall, they had a son that they had to raise.

 

[BBB167893]

Getting "attacked" in prison doesn't help.

 

[Ames]

Getting "attacked" in prison doesn't help.

No, and being a prisoner, wouldn't have looked good for their image.

 

[Solace]

Ames,

Please explain the difference to me?



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The difference might be the fact that one could feel the 8 1/2 inch crack in her skull which was virtually in half.

 

[Solace]

"Ames,

Please explain the difference to me?"

Good, Ames hasn't answered yet so I see an opportunity.

I think the difference is in Patsy's mind.

The difference could be the fact that this is a mortal wound and easily felt by anyone feeling JonBenet's skull that there was a huge fissure that went across her skull.

 

[Ames]

The difference might be the fact that one could feel the 8 1/2 inch crack in her skull which was virtually in half.

EXACTLY!!!! There IS a difference between a hit to the face, by a brother (who was also little at the time), accidently with a golf club....and a huge crack, (and displacement of the skull) that could not only be heard, but also felt as well. Something that only an adult abusing a child, would be able to do.

 

[Ames]

The difference could be the fact that this is a mortal wound and easily felt by anyone feeling JonBenet's skull that there was a huge fissure that went across her skull.

And I am quite sure that the skull displacement could be felt as well.

 

[Solace]

And I am quite sure that the skull displacement could be felt as well.

If you put your hands on your hand and feel with your fingers, you can pretty much the ridges, etc. An 8/12 inch gash across a tiny child's skull or anyone's for that matter could be felt and lets not forget the rectagular piece that was dislodged. If you can feel a bump on your head when you, I would imagine it would be pretty frightening to feel an 8-1/2 " long gash.

 

[Ames]

If you put your hands on your hand and feel with your fingers, you can pretty much the ridges, etc. An 8/12 inch gash across a tiny child's skull or anyone's for that matter could be felt and lets not forget the rectagular piece that was dislodged. If you can feel a bump on your head when you, I would imagine it would be pretty frightening to feel an 8-1/2 " long gash.

Shoot yeah it would. Imagine how Patsy felt, if she felt that gash, and dislodgement of the rectangular piece of JB's skull. Pretty darn scary...and you KNOW that after she injured her, and heard the crack...and knocked JB unconscious...she HAD to have felt her head. And then probably thought....OH MY GOD...what have I DONE?!?!?!?!

 

[Solace]

Shoot yeah it would. Imagine how Patsy felt, if she felt that gash, and dislodgement of the rectangular piece of JB's skull. Pretty darn scary...and you KNOW that after she injured her, and heard the crack...and knocked JB unconscious...she HAD to have felt her head. And then probably thought....OH MY GOD...what have I DONE?!?!?!?!

And that is the difference between the golf club accident and this one.

 

[Toltec]

And that is the difference between the golf club accident and this one.

Burke did not accidently strike JonBenet with the golf club...here's why:

Yes, JonBenet was struck in the face, BUT...

She was also struck in the leg.

 

[Solace]

Burke did not accidently strike JonBenet with the golf club...here's why:

Yes, JonBenet was struck in the face, BUT...

She was also struck in the leg.

Okay, so maybe he hit her intentionally. Very possible. But the end result was she was taken to the hospital immediately. It was hardly a life threatening incident.

 

[UKGuy]

I must say....I enjoy sparring with you...LOL

Refresh me on your theory...you believe that the Ramsey's did it...but it was no accident, right?? I think that Patsy, for whatever reason, was angry at JB....(I am still stuck on a bed soiling incident), and shoved her into something in the bathroom...like the tub or the sink. I believe that she panicked and couldn't think of a good reason to tell the ER docs, why her daughters skull was cracked (again, I believe that she heard it)...and she was unconscious. I do believe that she was afraid of going to jail, so she and John staged an "intruder did it" crime scene...in hopes that maybe, they could fool everyone, and they wouldn't be thrown in jail. Afterall, they had a son that they had to raise.

Ames,

JonBenet's death was a consequence of her being chronically sexually abused, imo she was killed to silence her, which was then staged in the basement as an intruder homicide.

The forensic evidence is inconsistent with both an Intruder and Toilet Rage Theory, but is consistent with a Sexual Abuse Theory.



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[UKGuy]

Sorry about not supplying a quick answer...I was offline.

Lets see....on one hand we have just a hit to the face with a golf club by her brother Burke. The Ramsey's probably even took Burke to the doctor with them, so that HE could explain what happened. That can be explained....he was probably swinging it around and accidently hit her with it. Stuff like that happens alot with kids....it was obviously an accident. He was a little kid, and so was she. On the other hand, we have a severe blow to the head, which cannot be explained away, no matter how hard they tried. Burke was only nine and not capable of causing that blow. Patsy, I am quite positive, heard the crack...she knew that it was not just a little boo-boo...and I am also quite positive that JB was unconscious. Knowing that doctors usually can tell when a person is lying, just by looking at the wound (for example: shaken baby syndrome, or a broken bone...the parent lies and says that the child fell from the crib or a chair...but, the Doctors know the truth). Doctors specialize in different types of wounds, and how they are caused...they would have known that JB didn't just fall off of her bike (too massive of a head wound for that), or fall down while skipping outside (again, too massive for that), or how likely would it be for JB to have fallen down a whole flight of stairs, and landed just so, for her wound to have been so enormous, and a part of the skull displaced? YOU tell ME what you think that Patsy's excuse would have been, IF she had of taken her unconscious daughter, with an obvious skull fracture to the ER. IMO...she wouldn't have been able to come up with one, that fit that horrible wound, or the crack in JB's skull that Patsy heard.

Ames,

JonBenet's head injury is classified as severe, and is rarely seen in children!

In both cases medical attention was required but only in the former was it sought.

I'm assuming there is no death penalty for accidental death in Colorado?

Now the wine-cellar crime-scene sure looks like a homicide, and for that I guess its life or the death penalty, why risk all that for an accident?

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[Toltec]

Ames,

JonBenet's head injury is classified as severe, and is rarely seen in children!

In both cases medical attention was required but only in the former was it sought.

I'm assuming there is no death penalty for accidental death in Colorado?

Now the wine-cellar crime-scene sure looks like a homicide, and for that I guess its life or the death penalty, why risk all that for an accident?

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Death penalty is reserved for first-degree murder...capital murder. If Patsy were arrested and charged, it would be 2nd degree murder or manslaughter.

 

[Ames]

Ames,

JonBenet's death was a consequence of her being chronically sexually abused, imo she was killed to silence her, which was then staged in the basement as an intruder homicide.

The forensic evidence is inconsistent with both an Intruder and Toilet Rage Theory, but is consistent with a Sexual Abuse Theory.



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Why do you think that they decided to silence her on Christmas night, when they had a trip planned, and later a cruise? How do you think that she got the head wound? She could have been attacked because of the bed soiling incident, and later silenced to cover up her sexual abuse. Sort of like, killing two birds with one stone.....(excuse the expression).