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Random Thoughts and Discussion Ideas#6 About the Case

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I just keep coming back to the conversation kc had with LE about recieving a phone call from Caylee the day she was arrested. How cold-hearted you would have to be to describe your 2-year-old calling you, happily talking to you about her life and her books, WHEN YOU KNOW SHE IS DEAD! oh yeah, it was in the script.
 
I'm wondering ..... why if the nanny told KC to tell NO ONE about the kidnapping (or they will kill Caylee), why did she start telling everying the minute 911 was called?
 
I am seriously doubting that, given CA's general reputation in her neighborhood (mentioned by the neighbor that gave the interview regarding Kio) that either CA trusted anyone in her neighborhood enough to give them a set, or that anyone they knew close by would want one.
JB can use a theory of other sets of keys to create doubt, but I don't think it will come under the definition of "reasonable" at this point in the game. CA and GA themselves have lied or changed their stories so much that I doubt even a receipt for a duplicate key would convince anyone. Even SODDI defenses have to have enough credibility to stand up against other evidence against the defendant (in this case overhwelming). The explanation of another key MIGHT have flown if they could have proven the existence of the imaginanny, but that whole story was hanging by a thread from its inception, despite the feeble and amateurish attempts of CA and GA to "corroborate" it later.

If you want to have a SODDI defense that even stands a chance in court, in addition to creating reasonable doubt with the theory itself (emphasis on reasonable), it always helps to sell it better to a jury if the defendant does not come across as a spoiled, remorseless, narcissistic thief who has an undisputed reputation as a pathological liar by her friends (has been accused of being a sociopath by other family members), and the defendant's parents do not, for the most part, behave in public as angry, entitled liars as well. I don't think a class A defense attorney could do much with this case, much less one that is up to his unqualified knees in a concomitant review of his own questionable ethics.

I agree, I seriously doubt anyone besides the family had keys to their home or cars.
 
I'm wondering ..... why if the nanny told KC to tell NO ONE about the kidnapping (or they will kill Caylee), why did she start telling everying the minute 911 was called?

it was part of her building her alibi....nanny killed her cause i talked....just more Casey BS and fluff....she knew she was gone...she figured i've gotten away with it for 31 days...another lie..another few days bought.
 
She strikes me as the type of kid who did that to both her parents, and maybe even her brother. Was probably good at playing them off each other to make each one look like her special confidant or hero when necessary, to get her out of a temporary "bind".

It also looks like she might have been doing that with her friends
with all that "omg, my gas gauge is broken, I forgot my wallet, do you have a couple of bucks I could borrow, a gas can" kind of lines that have sort of filtered through different interviews. She knew when she had crossed the line perhaps and then "bought" groceries to make it look like she was a "contributor".

When people caught on to that particular poor-me act, she probably went into stealth mode and just started stealing from them outright.

BBM
That's how I view Casey's relationships, She played everyone off each other.
 
I am seriously doubting that, given CA's general reputation in her neighborhood (mentioned by the neighbor that gave the interview regarding Kio) that either CA trusted anyone in her neighborhood enough to give them a set, or that anyone they knew close by would want one.

JB can use a theory of other sets of keys to create doubt, but I don't think it will come under the definition of "reasonable" at this point in the game. CA and GA themselves have lied or changed their stories so much that I doubt even a receipt for a duplicate key would convince anyone. Even SODDI defenses have to have enough credibility to stand up against other evidence against the defendant (in this case overhwelming). The explanation of another key MIGHT have flown if they could have proven the existence of the imaginanny, but that whole story was hanging by a thread from its inception, despite the feeble and amateurish attempts of CA and GA to "corroborate" it later.

If you want to have a SODDI defense that even stands a chance in court, in addition to creating reasonable doubt with the theory itself (emphasis on reasonable), it always helps to sell it better to a jury if the defendant does not come across as a spoiled, remorseless, narcissistic thief who has an undisputed reputation as a pathological liar by her friends (has been accused of being a sociopath by other family members), and the defendant's parents do not, for the most part, behave in public as angry, entitled liars as well. I don't think a class A defense attorney could do much with this case, much less one that is up to his unqualified knees in a concomitant review of his own questionable ethics.


My guess the only one with an extra key was Lee. It was Mallory who let the dogs out when the A's were in California.
 
Thank you Sdavidson11 for that amazing post! I cannot imagine the terror that experience caused to your body and mind! :grouphug: You sound like you've worked very hard at reclaiming your life and I commend you :clap: for bringing us your experience, as I'm sure typing it was not an easy thing to do.
Bless you for being a voice for victims, especially those who no longer have a voice!:blowkiss:
:rose:RIP Caylee:rose:
 
It is a proven fact that Casey had friends/lovers who were LE, she had easy access then if she wanted to do any kind of investigation on her own when Caylee was kidnapped. With all of her texts during the time Caylee was missing, were there any asking for non-official help from any of them?

Casey used other people all the time, her own search for Caylee seems to be the only thing she did on her own, one does have to wonder why.

Imo there are so many holes in her story, that if it was a bucket, well there just is no bucket left!

I look forward to the day when the trial is over and the verdict read.

VB
 
One would think if KC were to have asked for help from anyone, she would have told Jesse about Caylee being missing. He was working for LE at the time and she was either on the phone with him or texting him all during this time period.
 
OT,but Essie's ,
I LOVE your sig quote and I'm stealing it!

This has been an interesting conversation.I like being challenged .We collectively come up with incriminating facts that might have been forgotten.So much has happened in a year that it's easy to forget some of the older,but very important facts.
 
OT,but Essie's ,
I LOVE your sig quote and I'm stealing it!

This has been an interesting conversation.I like being challenged .We collectively come up with incriminating facts that might have been forgotten.So much has happened in a year that it's easy to forget some of the older,but very important facts.

LOL That's OK-I stole it too!!:rolleyes:
 
I'm not going to search all the interviews at this late hour, but ONE friend referred to her as a "mooch."

The way she went so crazy buying stuff for those guys to eat and even toilet paper, it makes me wonder if someone hadnt said something about her living there, like one of the room mates? (This is my own theory, its the random thoughts thread, right?)
 
The way she went so crazy buying stuff for those guys to eat and even toilet paper, it makes me wonder if someone hadnt said something about her living there, like one of the room mates? (This is my own theory, its the random thoughts thread, right?)

I agree-plus that was her MO! That's the way she weasles herself into people's lives-by taking care of them (till she can take advantage of them). :furious: Being the "mom" to her friends, like CA said. She had already started doing this with WW at his 4th of July party-and it was working!
If the car hadn't been found by C&G and CA hadn't started the ball rolling to KC's eventual incarceration-WW would have been the next stepping stone! IMO
 
The way she went so crazy buying stuff for those guys to eat and even toilet paper, it makes me wonder if someone hadnt said something about her living there, like one of the room mates? (This is my own theory, its the random thoughts thread, right?)

I think you're right. She didn't go back there while TL was out of town.The roomies probably made it clear to TL they didn't want her staying there.She had to go bunk with other friends.
 
I agree-plus that was her MO! That's the way she weasles herself into people's lives-by taking care of them (till she can take advantage of them). :furious: Being the "mom" to her friends, like CA said. She had already started doing this with WW at his 4th of July party-and it was working!
If the car hadn't been found by C&G and CA hadn't started the ball rolling to KC's eventual incarceration-WW would have been the next stepping stone! IMO


OOO yeah, ur right, and isn't that how CA operates too? The ultimate mom?
 
The way she went so crazy buying stuff for those guys to eat and even toilet paper, it makes me wonder if someone hadnt said something about her living there, like one of the room mates? (This is my own theory, its the random thoughts thread, right?)

I think she fully embraced the give a little - take alot philosphy for life
 
The way she went so crazy buying stuff for those guys to eat and even toilet paper, it makes me wonder if someone hadnt said something about her living there, like one of the room mates? (This is my own theory, its the random thoughts thread, right?)

She was not allowed to be there, unless TonE or the roomie was there.

Nobody invited her to live thee, She just kept showing up.
 
And still even IF they are the exact same items from the A's home, there are more people with access to these items then just KC. GA, CA, LA, and anyone with a secret set of keys. Neighbors who may have had keys for trips or emergancies, any key left outside like a fake rock key holder. Ect
ALL of these were taken into account during the JBR investigation. You can believe JB will also be using it to create reasonable doubt.

If they go with the "whoever had a key to the house" they should look at all the former babysitters.It would make sense that they would have a key AND KC said the nanny did it.Maybe JB will go after all the babysitters KC used.I could see him doing that.
 
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