Rape allegations mount against Bill Cosby #1

[IzzyBlanche]

You know that there is a big difference between unproven- and didn't happen? These are largely cases where the women knew the rapist, and they claim it was consensual. Unless she is beaten badly- it is incredibly difficult to prove. I can not stand Janice Dickinson myself but it is obvious that she is the perfect victim, a party girl who enjoyed sex, and will be vilified for speaking up. Predators know who will likely be powerless against them, same reason serial killers go after prostitutes. A certain segment of society would rather trash the woman for daring to go places and do things they are afraid to. They forget they are making excuses for the scum of the earth, only because they cannot empathize with the victims.

I don't disagree with anything you've said. But I just wanted to point out this in the post you are responding to BBM for emphasis:

"Even if the rate of false accusations of rape is 10%, in this instance it would allow us to statistically rule out maybe 2 of the accusations (based on 13 -17 victims). That would still statistically yield 11-15 victims who are not lying.

With specific regard to Janice Dickinson's claims, IMO not believing her based on what you know of her from seeing her on tv has as much validity as believing Cosby could not possibly be guilty of these crimes because he is a successful entertainer and pitchman."

Y'all are on the same side.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Just wow. WOW. This puts that video interview I commented on earlier in more perspective.

Did I say wow? WOW.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/...t-what-he-did-has-always-given-me-the-creeps/

 

[AlwaysShocked]

http://www.cnn.com/

I guess Cosby is going to accuse CNN of not having integrity for reporting this on the front page of their website.

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From the video at the above link:
Janice Dickinson appeared on the Howard Stern show in 2006 and spoke about Cosby. She told of how the publisher of her book was afraid of a lawsuit if she wrote the truth about the incident. She then said to - on air - Howard "Let's just say he is NOT a nice guy. He preys on women who have just gotten out of rehab."

 

[wfgodot]

Why did my post about the Duke rape case get removed and the questions asking about fake rapes is still there?

I have no idea; yet if you were equating a case featuring one person telling inconsistent stories charging three men with gang rape, with a case featuring 14 persons telling consistent stories charging one man with serial rape, perhaps it's understandable.

 

[CHERIE.T]

Rape has been around since the beginning of time. It will never go away. The problem I find more concerning is that people can be accused of such a horrific crime and whether it is true or provable or not it can ruin them for life. In this age, people are accused of horrible things and then ruined before they get their day in court.

It is shameful and we have seen it over and over again.

Rape has been around forever and yes it will never go away.
I find it more than a little worrisome that women can be ATTACKED in such a horrific crime and whether it is provable or not it can ruin them for life. In present day, as in the past, women experience horrible attacks, their lives ruined and they MAY NEVER get their day in court. imvhoo

It IS shameful and we have seen it over and over again.

 

[CHERIE.T]

http://www.relieffundforsexualassaultvictims.org/resources/statutesoflimitationcrim-D.pdf

STATUE OF LIMITATIONS OF RAPE PER STATE

 

[La Louve]

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Wow. It's as if he thinks he has total protection from the AP from embarrassing questions.

Also, his wife's demeanor is disturbing to say the least. It gives a whole new layer of meaning to the phrase "grin and bear it."

ETA: It's also disturbing that he speaks in the royal "we." It would be one thing if he looked at his wife even once while using "we," but he doesn't.

BBM His wife's body language was very telling, IMO. ETA Specifically, I saw her clawing at her throat, like someone trying to keep words from bubbling up. Rapist or not, he's been unfaithful to her plenty of times for her to have mixed feelings about him.

And he comes off as downright intimidating. A man used to getting his own way.

ETA I wonder if his "We don't talk about it" comment is referring to the out of court settlement with the one victim. Such a settlement may have a confidentiality clause which prohibits either party from disclosing any details of the settlement. IOW he is saying "we don't talk about it" in a much more generic way, while not actually lying. Very slick on his part. But I suppose when you consider that the first rape (that we know of) occurred in 1969 and the last one (that we know of) in 2004, he's had 35 years to convince himself and everyone around him of his lies.

 

[Truthy]

I don't disagree with anything you've said. But I just wanted to point out this in the post you are responding to BBM for emphasis:

"Even if the rate of false accusations of rape is 10%, in this instance it would allow us to statistically rule out maybe 2 of the accusations (based on 13 -17 victims). That would still statistically yield 11-15 victims who are not lying.

With specific regard to Janice Dickinson's claims, IMO not believing her based on what you know of her from seeing her on tv has as much validity as believing Cosby could not possibly be guilty of these crimes because he is a successful entertainer and pitchman."

Y'all are on the same side.

Nope, I do not believe from what I have read the rate of false allegations is nowhere near 10%.

 

[La Louve]

You know that there is a big difference between unproven- and didn't happen? These are largely cases where the women knew the rapist, and they claim it was consensual. Unless she is beaten badly- it is incredibly difficult to prove. I can not stand Janice Dickinson myself but it is obvious that she is the perfect victim, a party girl who enjoyed sex, and will be vilified for speaking up. Predators know who will likely be powerless against them, same reason serial killers go after prostitutes. A certain segment of society would rather trash the woman for daring to go places and do things they are afraid to. They forget they are making excuses for the scum of the earth, only because they cannot empathize with the victims.

Actually I was responding to a previous post where someone said something to the effect of "women lie about being raped all the time". So I did a bit of searching as to how true that statement actually was. IMO if the statistic is 2-10%, it's NOT true that "women lie about being raped all the time".

The point of my response was that the statistics of false rape accusations are very very low. But even if you go with the high side of the estimates, you would still only rule out 1 or 2 of his accusers.

 

[Truthy]

http://www.cnn.com/

I guess Cosby is going to accuse CNN of not having integrity for reporting this on the front page of their website.

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From the video at the above link:
Janice Dickinson appeared on the Howard Stern show in 2006 and spoke about Cosby. She told of how the publisher of her book was afraid of a lawsuit if she wrote the truth about the incident. She then said to - on air - Howard "Let's just say he is NOT a nice guy. He preys on women who have just gotten out of rehab."

He chose his victims wisely. Women who'd be blamed for whatever drug that showed up in their system.

My friend worked with him one day, and said he made intimidating and pornographic comments to every woman who was within ear shot. I explained that this was a good way of figuring out which women might be more vulnerable in tolerating abuse.

 

[La Louve]

Nope, I do not believe from what I have read the rate of false allegations is nowhere near 10%.

Just to be clear, neither do I. I said "even if the rate...is 10%" and then applied that math to the number of accusers so far. Personally I don't believe any of them are lying. Even Janice Dickinson.

 

[Truthy]

Actually I was responding to a previous post where someone said something to the effect of "women lie about being raped all the time". So I did a bit of searching as to how true that statement actually was. IMO if the statistic is 2-10%, it's NOT true that "women lie about being raped all the time".

The point of my response was that the statistics of false rape accusations are very very low. But even if you go with the high side of the estimates, you would still only rule out 1 or 2 of his accusers.

To clarify- 2 % is widely accepted for false. It only goes up to 8% when you add in unproven or unfounded. Those are not considered "false reports" by anyone mainstream. Women hating MRA groups quote the higher number to prove there is a war on men though!

 

[La Louve]

To clarify- 2 % is widely accepted for false. It only goes up to 8% when you add in unproven or unfounded. Those are not considered "false reports" by anyone mainstream. Women hating MRA groups quote the higher number to prove there is a war on men though!

I'm not sure what we are arguing about LOL.

 

[MsFacetious]

At least one thing is NOT being cancelled:

http://www.tmz.com/2014/11/19/bill-cosby-comedy-shows-cancellation-rape-allegations-performing/

 

[Truthy]

I'm not sure what we are arguing about LOL.

Not meaning to argue- just to clarify. Big difference between false @ 2% and unproven- 8-10%. In the context of this thread where people are saying it's common I thought it was important to make that distinction. No hard feelings!

 

[Montjoy]

This won't be the first time that Cosby has been accused of causing PTSD:



eta: really not trying to trivialize anything here, forgive me.

 

[La Louve]

This won't be the first time that Cosby has been accused of causing PTSD:

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eta: really not trying to trivialize anything here, forgive me.

Is it wrong that I laughed?

 

[Montjoy]

Is it wrong that I laughed?

If you laughed while reading my post, no; if you laughed while you were watching Leonard Part 6, you might want to seek help.

 

[La Louve]

If you laughed while reading my post, no; if you laughed while you were watching Leonard Part 6, you might want to seek help.

:happydance:

 

[CHERIE.T]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...reveals-actor-tried-sexually-assault-her.html


Florida woman becomes fourth in the past month to accuse Bill Cosby of drugging and raping her while wife of Incredible Hulk star Lou Feriggno, Carla, reveals actor tried to sexually assault her.