Rape allegations mount against Bill Cosby #2

[IzzyBlanche]

New accuser Lisa says Cosby met her mother and sisters too (photos). Guess it might help in creating a safety illusion.





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Classic predatory grooming behavior. See: Sandusky, Jerry.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

This is a little off topic, but an interesting read nonetheless.

Bill Cosby's doctoral thesis was about using "Fat Albert" as a teaching tool

A professor who served on Cosby’s dissertation committee, Reginald Damerell, said that Cosby hardly took a class — and that he got course credit for appearing on Sesame Street and The Electric Company, “and wrote a dissertation that analyzed the impact of his show.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...as-about-using-fat-albert-as-a-teaching-tool/

 

[IzzyBlanche]

What I have seen and known has shown him to be a kind good soul.

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Would you mind citing some specifics? Aside from endowing educational institutions with money, which clearly doesn't prove a soul is kind, simply rich.

 

[Morag]

So if someone is innocent in this country and people are lying about them they should have to go to court to prove they are innocent? Huh???

We are the land of innocent until proven guilty. Not accused or assumed but proven guilty. Which I am sure everyone here is glad of in case people would accuse them of something. We don't prove innocence here. We prove guilt.

No, if someone is defaming me, and many people believe the lies about me, I have two choices: do nothing, and hope for the best, or, go to court and sue them for slander/libel. Otherwise, the lies about me stand unchallenged, and people may very well assume that I was afraid to challenge my accusers.

Perhaps Cosby is afraid to face his accusers.

 

[BirdycatNY]

This not testimony. That is done in court under oath. These are just stories in media and interviews. Some sound too much the same and some change the more they are told. This is not testimony.

This is an end run around the justice system. IMO.

And everyone here is aware of that, we all know the rules on perjury/false statements and the difference of court testimony. But people are allowed to have opinions. At least alleged victims publicly spoke out and my guess is they understand court testimony/oaths too and defamation claims. It's easier to be critical and pick apart every bit when someone publicly speaks. When one is silent it's all speculation and one can't assess veracity/anything really. We can't pick apart testimonies because no court testimony from anyone.

Here is an article that lays out some assumptions in sexual assault/rape cases:
"...Then when it comes to the victim’s involvement in the criminal justice system, there are again a number of characteristics that most people would assume are typical of sexual assault cases:• There is a great deal of physical evidence to corroborate the allegation; • The victim actively participates with the investigation and prosecution;• The victim does not change his or her account of what happened.;• The victim is absolutely certain about the details of the sexual assault; • The victim does not recant; • Not a single detail in the victim’s account is provably false.

However, if you asked a room full of prosecutors how many of their cases resemble this stereotype, most would say that only a small percentage of their cases do. In fact, the research is clear that these stereotypical characteristics of “real rape” are actually quite rare..." BBM

Read more: "False Reports: Moving Successfully Investigate and Prosecute"; APRI The National Center for the Prosecution of Violence Against Women, American Prosecutors Research Institute, Volume 3, Number 1 (2009)
www.ndaa.org/pdf/the_voice_vol_3_no_1_2009.pdf

 

[BirdycatNY]

In the rape accusations against Bill Cosby, no justice
November 16, 2014 at 8:55 pm • Posted in Lisa Bloom's Posts, Rights by Lisa Bloom, Avvo Legal Analyst •
Link: In the rape accusations against Bill Cosby, no justice http://nakedlaw.avvo.com/lisa-bloom...inst-bill-cosby-no-justice.html#ixzz3MJ5TzvAm

"Without the crucible of cross-examination, we cannot get at the truth of what went on behind closed doors, where there were apparently no other witnesses nor any hard evidence collected from the scenes...If Mr. Cosby’s accusers are telling the truth, they deserved accountability years ago...Speaking out to the media is now the only option they have left. And it’s a poor substitute for justice."

Well at least if defamation case against BC's case goes to court, there will be some testimony from BC and alleged victim(s). I think Canadian LE did interview BC and he made statement re: Constand, please correct if that's not the case. If so, LE statements can be used in subsequent cases and same for alleged victims statements to police.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

You're attempting to redefine rape as a sexual assault by a person on another person when an opportunity arises; that's not the definition.

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It's a little more subtle than that, I think. It's not an attempt to redefine rape. It's an attempt to assign a proportion of "responsibility" for the crime to the rapist and the rape victim, that does not necessarily equal 100% responsibility on the rapist due to the circumstances.

I.e.:

Elderly woman raped in her bed = 100% responsibility on the rapist

Cute teen who naively went to the Playboy mansion = some percentage on her

Woman who met BC in a hotel room thinking it was a meeting about him mentoring her in her career = some percentage on her

Woman who met BC at a business meeting with other people present, who accepted "cold medicine" from him and a seemingly caring ride home = some percentage on her

Woman who met BC at his home to discuss his supposed interest in furthering her career = some percentage from her

Well I am too tired to go on for how many more lines but this is my interpretation. I will be very happy to be corrected.

 

[Crimson clover]

No, if someone is defaming me, and many people believe the lies about me, I have two choices: do nothing, and hope for the best, or, go to court and sue them for slander/libel. Otherwise, the lies about me stand unchallenged, and people may very well assume that I was afraid to challenge my accusers.

Perhaps Cosby is afraid to face his accusers.

As much as I can read...Cosby is still an alleged rapist, and the accusers are still alleged victims.
BBM...Perhaps he is.
Fear is an awful thing for me, remember?
Were I to turn your words, ... to drive my screaming issue...

If someone had drugged and raped me, and many are clueless about it, I have two choices: do nothing, and live in shame, suffer in silence... or, go to court and sue him for his unspeakable crimes. Otherwise, the horrors against me stand unchallenged...allowing many more, therefore, to become victims.

I'm not victim-blaming...amongst these posts of Cosby-bashing.
I'm just trying to understand their silence (those beyond Constand's voice).

 

[Crimson clover]

Non-existent? I certainly hope dissent from a majority opinion does not go away.

God forbid. And...I spell God...GOD!

 

[Slebby]

Snipped for focus

It's a little more subtle than that, I think. It's not an attempt to redefine rape. It's an attempt to assign a proportion of "responsibility" for the crime to the rapist and the rape victim, that does not necessarily equal 100% responsibility on the rapist due to the circumstances.

I.e.:

Elderly woman raped in her bed = 100% responsibility on the rapist

Cute teen who naively went to the Playboy mansion = some percentage on her

Woman who met BC in a hotel room thinking it was a meeting about him mentoring her in her career = some percentage on her

Woman who met BC at a business meeting with other people present, who accepted "cold medicine" from him and a seemingly caring ride home = some percentage on her

Woman who met BC at his home to discuss his supposed interest in furthering her career = some percentage from her

Well I am too tired to go on for how many more lines but this is my interpretation. I will be very happy to be corrected.

And I will take this even one more step further. It seems the thinking is that, if one ascribed "some percentage from her", that "some percentage" absolves the rapist of ANY percentage [of responsibility]. In other words, if she is at all "responsible", therefore the rapist himself, in these cases, BC, isn't a bad guy at all.

It makes no sense to me.


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[wendiesan]

And I will take this even one more step further. It seems the thinking is that, if one ascribed "some percentage from her", that "some percentage" absolves the rapist of ANY percentage [of responsibility]. In other words, if she is at all "responsible", therefore the rapist himself, in these cases, BC, isn't a bad guy at all.
It makes no sense to me.

Rape, one of the crimes of war, is a heinous act which devastates the victims and victim's loved ones, friends, and neighbours. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4078677.stm) And war criminals deserve what they get.

In our North American societies, the fear of wrongly charging someone with the crime of rape has, it seems to me, produced centuries of protecting the perpetrators from having to deal with the consequences of their actions. If the accused doesn't look like Ratko Mladic, perhaps there are doubts about the accusations--could the victim be mistaken? Could there be another reason? Could the victim have had a form of "buyer's remorse" and changed his/her mind some time after having had consensual sex?

It is a relatively recent development that LE professionals have come to recognize that the victims of rape are not responsible for the actions of the rapist. However, vestiges of previously accepted "truths" about how a rape victim should look or behave or dress linger on in the minds of the general public as well.

As Sarah Tofte said of investigations of rape, that LE officers “...talk about the victims’ credibility in a way that they don’t talk about the credibility of victims of other crimes”. (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/30/opinion/30kristof.html?_r=0)

It's pretty easy for those outside the experience to say that, if raped, the victim should report the crime to protect other people from rape. One inference, IMO, is that if someone really has been raped, they can somehow prove their own innocence by reporting. IMO, another inference of such a stance is that if the rapist rapes again, then the victim is at least partly to blame for the new crime/s. Still another inference, IMO, is that, for the greater good, a victim should be denied comfort, and should continue to suffer the humiliation and pain that will come from the process of producing what is called a "rape kit".

The Rape Treatment Centre (UCLA Medical Centre, Santa Monica) gives a detailed synopsis of what a rape victim who intends to notify police should do after calling a friend or relative for emotional support.

Preserve all physical evidence of the assault. Do not shower, bathe, douche, eat, drink, wash your hands, or brush your teeth until after you have had a medical examination. Save all of the clothing you were wearing at the time of the assault. Place each item of clothing in a separate paper bag. Do not use plastic bags. Do not clean or disturb anything in the area where the assault occurred.

(http://www.911rape.org/getting-help/what-to-do-if-you-are-raped)

Allowing LE into a home where a burglary has happened can be traumatizing--there is a sense that a home is no longer a place of safety and security. It has changed from a home into a crime scene, a place to be viewed and analyzed and measured and described in objective terms. The emotional connections to the objects within that crime scene seem have been severed. How much more traumatizing is it to be changed from being a person into being an object?

When a woman reports a rape, her body is a crime scene. She is typically asked to undress over a large sheet of white paper to collect hairs or fibers, and then her body is examined with an ultraviolet light, photographed and thoroughly swabbed for the rapist’s DNA. It’s a grueling and invasive process that can last four to six hours and produces a “rape kit” — which, it turns out, often sits around for months or years, unopened and untested.

Nicholas D. Kristoff (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/30/opinion/30kristof.html?_r=0)

When your body is a crime scene, and, therefore is a more acceptable and reliable source of information than is your memory, it may well seem as though the dehumanizing effects of the rape are just being continued by LE, no matter how supportive the attending officer may be. If, and this is a big if, the case does go to trial, the victim may be required to relive the crime in front of her attacker, talking about very personal things to a roomful of strangers.

Less than half of complaints made to police result in criminal charges and, of those charges, only about one in four leads to a guilty verdict. Women know this. Which explains why, according to the best estimates, roughly 90 per cent of sexual assaults, even those referred to crisis lines, are never brought to the attention of the authorities. Queen’s University law professor Pamela Cross, an expert on sexual assault, says that if someone she knows personally were attacked, “I would advise thinking very hard” before calling the police.

(http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...iolate-rape-victims/article14705289/?page=all)

It is not surprising that many rapes go unreported, and that victims choose to be silent. It's more surprising, IMO, that victims choose to involve LE at all.
This is all the more sad given the following statistics about rape.

By the numbers

17 minutes: How often a woman in Canada has intercourse against her will

80: Percentage of sexual assaults that happen in victims’ own homes

62: Percentage of victims physically injured in attacks

98: Percentage of charges laid for the least severe form of assault

2: The number of years sexual assault offenders are sentenced to jail on average

Kirk Makin (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...iolate-rape-victims/article14705289/?page=all)

 

[Donjeta]

Cosby's lawyer says his client was misunderstood and didn't mean that only black media could be fair, but oh, wait, people aren't fair.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/bi...dont-just-expect-fairness-black-media-n271411

A statement from Cosby lawyer John P. Schmitt on Thursday evening said that his client's comments "continue to be misconstrued in a way that can only call into question the fair-mindedness of certain commentators."

"As previously noted, Mr. Brown identified himself to Mr. Cosby as a freelance reporter for a number of African-American media. To be clear, Mr. Cosby did not ask for special treatment from the African-American media," wrote Schmitt. "To the contrary, he asked that they adhere to journalistic standards and approach the story in a neutral manner — without a predisposition on either side of the story. It is of course what we would expect of all media."

:

Rosie O'Donnell goes on a RAMPAGE after Bill Cosby victim Beverly Johnson demands to cut her out of The View interview in favor of a one-on-one with nemesis Whoopi Goldberg•Former supermodel Beverly Johnson confided to Whoopi that she was a Bill Cosby victim even before the Vanity Fair article appeared
•She told Whoopi she would come on The View, but only if Whoopi did the interview ALONE
•Whoopi has been a staunch supporter of Cosby, unlike Rosie who appears disgusted by the rape accusations
•When Rosie found out she went ballistic, appealed to ABC brass and ultimately got her way
•Whoopi felt that Rosie had filed the complaint just to undermine her
•The rift between the hosts is so bad, O'Donnell was the only person from the show that Goldberg did not invite to her annual holiday party
.

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Canadian shows that are still scheduled to happen in Hamilton and Kitchener are being protested against:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitch...w-alternative-offered-by-volunteers-1.2877860
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamil...sters-plan-to-disrupt-hamilton-show-1.2877720

Oh and this is interesting, considering Cosby has been such a staunch defender of educational excellence ever since flunking high school:

Sam Simon (of the Simpsons fame) who worked on Fat Albert tweets that Cosby paid people to write his doctoral thesis for him.
https://twitter.com/simonsam/status/545383007767392257

(I found the tweets through this article but read at your own risk, a foul language warning applies)
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/232...l-cosby-paid-others-to-write-his-ph-d-thesis/

Older MSM article about the thesis.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...as-about-using-fat-albert-as-a-teaching-tool/

 

[Donjeta]

Well, the Cosby camp should be very happy about this article:
http://www.recorder.com/home/14856632-95/residents-vexed-by-hype-over-cosby-allegations
http://www.gazettenet.com/home/1488...sexual-assault-accusations-against-bill-cosby
(the same story, more or less)

Eller said she finds the accusations distressing. “I question why a handsome, wealthy guy in show business would have to drug women,” she said. “It’s distressing that any man would do something like that. But if you have a public life, you know you’re always going to be under the microscope. And he never struck me as a stupid man.”

I think people need to mind their own business,” said Chris King of Mocha Maya’s, coffee shop, another gathering spot in town. “People just seem to want to believe the worst. In the grand scheme of things, with all the world is dealing with, let this be an issue for the (Cosby) family — not for all of us.

“We’re all caught up in this media hype — and we don’t know diddley,” said Shelburne Falls resident Whit Sanford. “Heaven knows, he has contributed to this region. I don’t know how much he’s given, but we know he has given a lot.

“It’s all media,” she said of the allegations. “We just don’t know. Nothing has been done in the courts that says he’s guilty. I think it’s a very sad commentary on us. Leave the Cosbys alone. This should be between Mr. Cosby and his wife. The lawyers are there, if someone wants to prosecute.”

“I think the Cosbys are some of the finest people you are ever going to meet,” said Shelburne Selectman Joseph Judd, who has done notary work for the Cosbys for several years. “This is a private matter, and I think it should stay private.”

Yeah, the rape allegations, they're just serial, not serious. I don't know why all the fuss. If his wife doesn't mind why should anyone else? Where is the world coming to if a man can't drug and rape women if his wife allows it? If someone was raped, they should just continue to shut up about it, and in case they don't, everyone should avoid listening. /endsnark

Cosby's lawyers criticising Michael Eric Dyson's statements and saying everyone who doesn't criticise them is irresponsible:
http://www.thewrap.com/bill-cosby-a...l-eric-dyson-as-mean-spirited-reckless-video/

Haven't watched but I think this is the interview they're talking about http://www.msnbc.com/now/watch/cosbys-wife--who-is-the-victim--373477955955

I feel like all this media criticism and latching onto specific hurtful comments made by specific persons largely sidesteps and distracts from the main issue. Certainly there are people who don't particularly like Bill Cosby and have expressed it in colorful language even before this but then there are people who are vocal about their dislike of a lot of other celebrities who haven't been accused of rape as well. But I see it as largely irrelevant when what I really want to know is whether he drugged and raped several women.

http://www.thewrap.com/bill-cosbys-...idnt-you-talk-to-a-lawyer-30-years-ago-video/
Bill Cosby’s Cousin to Accusers: ‘Why Didn’t You Talk to a Lawyer 30 Years Ago?’ (Video)

As far as I understand some of them did, and were rejected or discouraged.

The author of “Bill Cosby is Right: But What Should the Church Be Doing About It?” described herself as “devastated” about the allegations.
“But something in the back of my mind said, ‘Just sit back and wait, because what I understand is the truth comes out eventually,” Merisa Davis told Sean Hannity on Fox News Tuesday. “A lot of people are motivated by money, and I knew that Dr. Cosby had a new project coming out in 2015, and I knew there would be some push back.

This doesn't even make sense to me. What about Cosby's 2015 project could be so fearsome and controversial that it would cause a push back in the form of thirtysomething women conspiring to say he drugged and raped them or attempted to? The man's doing stand-up comedy and funny TV shows, for Pete's sake. Lots of people have produced TV shows and managed to get away with it without anyone accusing them of rape so it's not like such a reaction is somehow expected and a run-off-the-mill happening.

But she could be right nevertheless. Maybe this is the truth coming out eventually?

 

[Donjeta]

Mark Whitaker Still Doesn’t Get How He Screwed Up His Cosby Biography
By Jason Bailey on Dec 16, 2014 12:30pm
http://flavorwire.com/494360/mark-whitaker-still-doesnt-get-how-he-screwed-up-his-cosby-biography

“It’s been said that I’ve made the claim that this is the definitive biography, and I never made that claim,” he insisted. “It’s nowhere in any of the things I’ve ever said or that the publisher’s ever said. We do say it’s the first major biography, because it is.” So, yeah, seizing on the semantics: that’s always a can’t-lose. It wasn’t definitive, you see, so he could pick and choose what to include, as you can in a major biography. (What?)

Talking about how the biographer is saying that he didn't want to publish anything he couldn't independently verify:

Whitaker’s been trotting out this line of ******** for a while now, and it’s gotta stop. Aside from the fact that the book is filled with stories provided by single sources (Cosby, frequently), it’s an argument presupposing an obligation that was never imposed. He wasn’t writing an investigative exposé of the Cosby rape accusations; no one expects a biographer to “independently verify” the validity of these accusations. A biographer is expected to document their subject’s life, and even if Whitaker couldn’t “report” that the rapes happened, the allegations incontrovertibly did. They are a real thing that occurred in the life of Bill Cosby. Need to “verify” them? Cite the case “that had actually been investigated.” Read the 2005 lawsuit, which Cosby settled out of court. Watch the February 10, 2005 Today show. Read the June 23, 2005 issue of The Philadelphia Daily News. Read the June 2006 and November 2006 issues of Philadelphia magazine. Read the December 18, 2006 issue of People magazine.

“I will say that watching what happened with Rolling Stone and this UVA story makes me say, well, at least I don’t have to take anything back, and say, ‘I got it wrong.’”

And that’s what Whitaker still doesn’t understand — he did get it wrong. By leaving out a major element of Cosby’s later life, by refusing to open a can of worms that would disrupt his admiring hagiography, Whitaker failed at the most basic job of the biographer: reporting the events of his subject’s life.

 

[wendiesan]

Thanks Donjeta for all your research.

I feel as though you are painstakingly putting together a complex mosaic of Cosby, cementing one element at a time into what first appears to be a random form, revealing the unfamiliar and frightening shape of his underlying spirit, then showing the points where that spirit has been hidden by a socially expected and accepted disguise.

 

[Tulessa]

Promo of today's show concerning BC.It airs today, for those interested....

[video=youtube;NRMu4uxsFvo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRMu4uxsFvo&list=UUYLR1ghzYNyvfjw78raCuxA[/video]

 

[Tulessa]

As much as I can read...Cosby is still an alleged rapist, and the accusers are still alleged victims.
BBM...Perhaps he is.
Fear is an awful thing for me, remember?
Were I to turn your words, ... to drive my screaming issue...

If someone had drugged and raped me, and many are clueless about it, I have two choices: do nothing, and live in shame, suffer in silence... or, go to court and sue him for his unspeakable crimes. Otherwise, the horrors against me stand unchallenged...allowing many more, therefore, to become victims.

I'm not victim-blaming...amongst these posts of Cosby-bashing.
I'm just trying to understand their silence (those beyond Constand's voice).

Maybe I'm missing something, but I haven't seen any BC bashing, But what I HAVE seen, is members posting their opinions, about BC. I even stated that CC might be a victim herself.

 

[Morag]

God forbid. And...I spell God...GOD!

FYI: Jews generally express the word as G-d. The thought is that we do not wish to erase or scrawl over the name. Members of other faiths are free to do otherwise.

 

[Morag]

Rape, one of the crimes of war, is a heinous act which devastates the victims and victim's loved ones, friends, and neighbours. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4078677.stm) And war criminals deserve what they get.

In our North American societies, the fear of wrongly charging someone with the crime of rape has, it seems to me, produced centuries of protecting the perpetrators from having to deal with the consequences of their actions. If the accused doesn't look like Ratko Mladic, perhaps there are doubts about the accusations--could the victim be mistaken? Could there be another reason? Could the victim have had a form of "buyer's remorse" and changed his/her mind some time after having had consensual sex?

It is a relatively recent development that LE professionals have come to recognize that the victims of rape are not responsible for the actions of the rapist. However, vestiges of previously accepted "truths" about how a rape victim should look or behave or dress linger on in the minds of the general public as well.

As Sarah Tofte said of investigations of rape, that LE officers “...talk about the victims’ credibility in a way that they don’t talk about the credibility of victims of other crimes”. (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/30/opinion/30kristof.html?_r=0)

It's pretty easy for those outside the experience to say that, if raped, the victim should report the crime to protect other people from rape. One inference, IMO, is that if someone really has been raped, they can somehow prove their own innocence by reporting. IMO, another inference of such a stance is that if the rapist rapes again, then the victim is at least partly to blame for the new crime/s. Still another inference, IMO, is that, for the greater good, a victim should be denied comfort, and should continue to suffer the humiliation and pain that will come from the process of producing what is called a "rape kit".

The Rape Treatment Centre (UCLA Medical Centre, Santa Monica) gives a detailed synopsis of what a rape victim who intends to notify police should do after calling a friend or relative for emotional support. (http://www.911rape.org/getting-help/what-to-do-if-you-are-raped)

Allowing LE into a home where a burglary has happened can be traumatizing--there is a sense that a home is no longer a place of safety and security. It has changed from a home into a crime scene, a place to be viewed and analyzed and measured and described in objective terms. The emotional connections to the objects within that crime scene seem have been severed. How much more traumatizing is it to be changed from being a person into being an object?

Nicholas D. Kristoff (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/30/opinion/30kristof.html?_r=0)

When your body is a crime scene, and, therefore is a more acceptable and reliable source of information than is your memory, it may well seem as though the dehumanizing effects of the rape are just being continued by LE, no matter how supportive the attending officer may be. If, and this is a big if, the case does go to trial, the victim may be required to relive the crime in front of her attacker, talking about very personal things to a roomful of strangers.

(http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...iolate-rape-victims/article14705289/?page=all)

It is not surprising that many rapes go unreported, and that victims choose to be silent. It's more surprising, IMO, that victims choose to involve LE at all.
This is all the more sad given the following statistics about rape.


Kirk Makin (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...iolate-rape-victims/article14705289/?page=all)

Wendiesan: this is an excellent description of why rapes so seldom get reported. I would wish for every regular poster on this thread to read and contemplate it.

 

[time]

Well, the Cosby camp should be very happy about this article:
http://www.recorder.com/home/14856632-95/residents-vexed-by-hype-over-cosby-allegations
http://www.gazettenet.com/home/1488...sexual-assault-accusations-against-bill-cosby
(the same story, more or less)

Yeah, the rape allegations, they're just serial, not serious. I don't know why all the fuss. If his wife doesn't mind why should anyone else? Where is the world coming to if a man can't drug and rape women if his wife allows it? If someone was raped, they should just continue to shut up about it, and in case they don't, everyone should avoid listening. /endsnark

Cosby's lawyers criticising Michael Eric Dyson's statements and saying everyone who doesn't criticise them is irresponsible:
http://www.thewrap.com/bill-cosby-a...l-eric-dyson-as-mean-spirited-reckless-video/

Haven't watched but I think this is the interview they're talking about http://www.msnbc.com/now/watch/cosbys-wife--who-is-the-victim--373477955955

I feel like all this media criticism and latching onto specific hurtful comments made by specific persons largely sidesteps and distracts from the main issue. Certainly there are people who don't particularly like Bill Cosby and have expressed it in colorful language even before this but then there are people who are vocal about their dislike of a lot of other celebrities who haven't been accused of rape as well. But I see it as largely irrelevant when what I really want to know is whether he drugged and raped several women.

http://www.thewrap.com/bill-cosbys-...idnt-you-talk-to-a-lawyer-30-years-ago-video/
Bill Cosby’s Cousin to Accusers: ‘Why Didn’t You Talk to a Lawyer 30 Years Ago?’ (Video)

As far as I understand some of them did, and were rejected or discouraged.



This doesn't even make sense to me. What about Cosby's 2015 project could be so fearsome and controversial that it would cause a push back in the form of thirtysomething women conspiring to say he drugged and raped them or attempted to? The man's doing stand-up comedy and funny TV shows, for Pete's sake. Lots of people have produced TV shows and managed to get away with it without anyone accusing them of rape so it's not like such a reaction is somehow expected and a run-off-the-mill happening.

But she could be right nevertheless. Maybe this is the truth coming out eventually?

Good post! I personally feel distressed every time I look at Cosby now. I feel he's being a bully to boot.

Of course women don't really want to come forward when they are raped even now, let alone 30 years ago. I know I've told this story somewhere before, but I was drugged and nearly raped once when I was in my 20s. I went to a 'couples' party with a guy I had been dating off and on for a while. I knew him from high school. The apartment we went to was someone I knew from my home town, I even knew his family too! It wasn't a 'couples' party at all I realized, but me and about 6 or more guys. Not that much time had passed when I felt incredibly dizzy after just a couple of sips out of my drink. Thankfully, I made it to the bathroom where my legs gave out and I dropped my glass. I guess I was stupid, because I decided to come out, I guess still not aware of what was really going on... but when I came out some guy I didn't know tried to force me down the hall into the bedroom. I was really lucky because there was another guy in the crowd who evidently didn't like whatever was going on and escorted me out of the apartment. I wish I had reported it, who knows, maybe they could have tested my blood or something, but the thought never crossed my mind. I'm not sure back then they would have done anything about it anyway.