Rape allegations mount against Bill Cosby #2

[Donjeta]

I could perhaps believe there might be a couple who made it up or exaggerated for effect but the more women there are the less I am inclined to believe that they all made it up. So whether the real number is 15 or 25 it doesn't really make a difference as to how I perceive Bill Cosby. If he raped just one of them for real he's a rapist.

Several women have indicated that they've been in contact with others who haven't come into the public eye yet, and while I've no way of verifying that it's true it seems like the women who have come forward could be just the tip of the iceberg.

 

[Donjeta]

It was a rape, but it seemed so strange to call it that. We think of rape as a stranger who attacks you in a parking lot,' McKee, now a casting agent, told the New York Daily News. 'I chalked it up to another powerful person in Hollywood who just felt he could take what he wanted from women.'

Now McKee has seen the accusations against Cosby dating back to the 1970s come flooding in. 'It flushed it out,' she said.
The former Las Vegas showgirl was a party staple among Davis' Rat Pack and says the crooner was in an open marriage, with her as his 'road wife.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...an-hotel-room-early-1970-s.html#ixzz3MeDqutKV
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[Trino]

Another accusation with no legal meaning - she said, he wouldn't say.

 

[Slebby]

Another accusation with no legal meaning - she said, he wouldn't say.

It has the potential to have legal meaning. If there is a legal case against BC, and the women who have come forward are witnesses, that will have legal meaning. Whether the Cosby-huggers on this thread want to admit it or not, testimony IS evidence. No, it is not his DNA gathered from her blood-spattered, torn panties, as some prefer to see before they will believe the allegations. But testimony IS evidence.

Imo


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[Donjeta]

The statute of limitations has for the most part run out and Cosby is exercising his right not to say anything but it doesn't necessarily render all the shesaids silly and pointless or even untrue imo.
There is still some legal action brewing, and LAPD said this:

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment...cosby-assault-claims-matter/story?id=27387939

Police will investigate new sexual assault claims against Bill Cosby, regardless of the year the alleged incidents occurred, Los Angeles Police Department Chief Charlie Beck said.

“No, we don’t turn people away because things are out of statute,” Beck said. “You come to us, especially with a sexual allegation, you know we will work with you.”

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment...cosby-assault-claims-matter/story?id=27387939

 

[chlban]

The statute of limitations has for the most part run out and Cosby is exercising his right not to say anything but it doesn't necessarily render all the shesaids silly and pointless or even untrue imo.
There is still some legal action brewing, and LAPD said this:

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment...cosby-assault-claims-matter/story?id=27387939


http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment...cosby-assault-claims-matter/story?id=27387939

That's all outdated. The LAPD is all talk and desperate to improve their image. After all this hoopla came out someone must have whispered in <mod snip>(Beck) ear that there is this little thing called Statute of Limitation.

 

[Donjeta]

I think he must have known it exists because he referred to it in the above quote.

As far as I understand the statute of limitations doesn't prevent the police from talking with people about old crimes, even if they can't charge. Few departments would use the resources if it's not relevant to something that is still within the statute of limitations but in this case there seems to have been a continuing pattern of behavior so older reports might have some significance in the investigation.

and as far as the information being outdated, on Dec. 18 it was reported that LAPD is still investigating.

EXCLUSIVE: Bill Cosby is under full-scale police investigation after series of women tell detectives they were abused by comedian - and some of the alleged attacks were INSIDE statute of limitations

Lawyer for one victim has disclosed to Daily Mail Online that there is a 'definitive open investigation' into Cosby by the Los Angeles PD
Several women have come forward to detectives and accused him of drugging and attacking them
New victims are not among those who have already gone public and are retaining their right to anonymity
First victim to allege attack inside statute of limitations was Chloe Goins, 24, who told MailOnline she was assaulted at the Playboy Mansion six years ago

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...abused-statute-limitations.html#ixzz3MekVXj4s
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[waitin'4thewrld2chg]

If anyone serially raped or sexually harassed dozens of women over several decades I think it's highly probable that they have some strong personality disorder traits at the very least, even if not enough for a diagnosis. People who are quite well put together just don't fall into the habit of doing things like that to others.
http://www.psi.uba.ar/academica/car...ica_tr_personalidad_psicosis/material/dsm.pdf
There are many criteria for personality disorders that he either doesn't appear to fulfill or we don't have enough information to say if he does or not (well I don't anyway), and considering many people are saying they always thought he is a good guy it's possible that this is not true:
"The impairments in personality functioning and the individual's personality trait expression are relatively stable across time and consistent across situations."

But some things seem to fit (supposing there is no vast conspiracy that spins lies about him).

Manipulativeness is defined as "frequent use of subterfuge to influence or control others; use of seduction, charm, glibness, or ingratiation to achieve one's ends", and it is one of the criteria for antisocial personality disorder according to DSM5. This features prominently in most of the accusers' stories. So that would merit a checkmark, assuming they're telling the truth.

Another criteria is deceitfulness or "dishonesty and fraudulence; misrepresentation of self; embellishment or fabrication when relating events". If true he bought his dissertation from others I'd count it as dishonesty, and there probably would have to be some fabrication and misrepresentation of self involved if one is to get away with multiple rapes and still look like a good guy to one's wife and other onlookers.

Callousness or "lack of concern for feelings or problems of others; lack of guilt or remorse about the negative or harmful effects of one's actions on others; aggression; sadism"....I think this is highly likely in anyone who repeatedly rapes others for their own gratification. If you're worried about the negative effects rape would have on the victim, the solution is simple, don't do it. And apart from the rape allegations, I see some lack of concern for the feelings of others in some of his speeches, at least the way they have been reported, eg. the speech to Katrina victims that apparently focused more on what was wrong with them even before the storm than how to help, and the story about how he sold out his own daughter to keep the rape allegations from coming out seems, well...

Then there's hostility, "persistent or frequent angry feelings; anger or irritability in response to minor slights and insults; mean, nasty, or vengeful behavior". Many of his friends appear to disagree but I'm reminded of the reporter who got sent a dried up apple, and the way he behaved in the AP interview I wouldn't put it past Bill Cosby to be vengeful and to hold a grudge. There are a few people he's reportedly been holding a grudge for (that have nothing to do with the rape allegations.)
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/...t-what-he-did-has-always-given-me-the-creeps/
http://news.google.com/newspapers?n...90rAAAAIBAJ&sjid=VGQFAAAAIBAJ&pg=2475,2829957
http://perezhilton.com/2011-03-16-bill-cosby-holds-a-grudge-against-russell-simmons


http://www.tvguide.com/news/bill-cosby-rape-allegations-timeline-1089629.aspx
The 1984 article here:
http://franklinavenue.blogspot.fi/2014/11/throwback-thursday-difficult-bill-cosby.html



The reporter wonders, among other things, if Cosby thinks he's God and then walks across town with him and realizes how he might get such an impression. First he was nice to the people approaching him, then suddenly stopped and spent minutes haranguing two young women who asked for an autograph.

If he evokes feelings that he thinks he's God it sounds like there could be some grandiotic thinking involved and that in turn is a trait in narcissistic personality disorder.

Anyway he told the reporter that he thinks it's romantic if his wife sends him a dozen roses and I went, whaaat? You run around with Playboy bunnies and expect your WIFE to send YOU roses?

That's entitlement, IMO.

Very interesting post. Definitely, &#8220;something ain&#8217;t right&#8221; with anyone who might be found to have raped or harassed numerous women over time.

Many people (relatives, friends, show business associates, fans) could have said they always thought of Bill Cosby as a good guy, but if they happened to be gifting him with generous doses of extra latitude because of his iconic status or &#8220;quirky nature&#8221;, Cosby could have been exhibiting some rather serious impairments, consistently and over time, that were there to be seen by the astute and impartial observer but missed by many or most.

If I am hiding behind a smokescreen of sweet Jello pudding and family values but am actually pretty consistently manipulative, deceitful, callous and hostile, particularly in situations that conform to my triggers or that I create so they will, I might be able to stay under the radar for a very long time, especially if my manipulations worked to keep others confused and off-balance.

 

[Donjeta]

Very interesting post. Definitely, &#8220;something ain&#8217;t right&#8221; with anyone who might be found to have raped or harassed numerous women over time.

Many people (relatives, friends, show business associates, fans) could have said they always thought of Bill Cosby as a good guy, but if they happened to be gifting him with generous doses of extra latitude because of his iconic status or &#8220;quirky nature&#8221;, Cosby could have been exhibiting some rather serious impairments, consistently and over time, that were there to be seen by the astute and impartial observer but missed by many or most.

If I am hiding behind a smokescreen of sweet Jello pudding and family values but am actually pretty consistently manipulative, deceitful, callous and hostile, particularly in situations that conform to my triggers or that I create so they will, I might be able to stay under the radar for a very long time, especially if my manipulations worked to keep others confused and off-balance.

Some things that might help:

Acting skills. I expect he would have been able to play the part of a nice guy when it suited him better than a random person with no experience of how to handle nice guy roles.

The laughter helps too I think, laughing makes people feel good and so they want to think well of a person who makes them laugh.

Expectations. He had been hyped as America's dad and credited with uniting the races and lots of good things and once that happens some people may see what they expect to see and others may see something else but be unwilling to be the lone dissenting voice who says that the emperor has no clothes.

The money probably helps too. A few days ago I posted an article about people in his hometown and some of them were saying they don't believe it because he's been such a good customer and generous financial contributor. If you reward people with donations, income and are a good tipper or a good provider you might get away with more questionable behavior.

Mind games and cognitive dissonance. Some narcissists can keep it up for a long time because they manage to convince their family black is white or vice versa or teach them to blame themselves if things aren't working, and justifying things to the bitter end. "He is just too trusting and lets things get too far..."

Splitting the world into good and bad people, or weak and the respectable people, or madonnas and prostitutes etc. . If he did this it might explain some of the inconsistent accounts of how he treated people. Why, on the same walk through the town he jovially gave autographs to some people and chastised others for asking the same. Why he kindly mentored some people without incident and drugged and raped others (allegedly). Why some people find him generous and funny and others intimidating and hostile.

 

[wendiesan]

It has the potential to have legal meaning. If there is a legal case against BC, and the women who have come forward are witnesses, that will have legal meaning. Whether the Cosby-huggers on this thread want to admit it or not, testimony IS evidence. No, it is not his DNA gathered from her blood-spattered, torn panties, as some prefer to see before they will believe the allegations. But testimony IS evidence. Imo Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

FWIW, testimony, IIRC, becomes considered as fact only after solemn declarations have made under oath. (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/testify) Accusations made to reporters and journalists re BC, so far seem to be uncorroborated statements about personal experiences. In some cases, the statements are hearsay. I haven't read any yet that are from witnesses who have first hand knowledge of a sexual assault made on another person. This doesn't mean that all the alleged victims/survivors are lying, or that witnesses to some of these allegations don't exist. Neither should these statements be ignored. Just as the silence of comedians who knew and worked with BC has been damning, the growing list of accusers/alleged victims/alleged survivors is, to say the least, damning and sickening.

However, IIRC, even some very damning testimony is not admissible in a court case in some circumstances. In California, the Evidence Code section 1101, subdivision (b), permits &#8220;the admission of evidence that a person committed a crime, civil wrong, or other act when relevant to prove some fact...other than his or her disposition to commit such an act". (http://www.fdap.org/downloads/articles_and_outlines/UnchargedActsEvidence.pdf) So even should the accusations become testimony and establish facts, they might not ever be considered in a trial should they be considered as prior bad acts that would unduly influence a jury to become prejudiced against a defendant. (http://definitions.uslegal.com/p/prior-bad-act/) This seems to be true when the character of the accused is under consideration.

&#8220;Character evidence is of slight probative value and may be very prejudicial. It tends to distract the trier of fact from the main question of what actually happened on the particular occasion. It subtly permits the trier of fact to reward the good man to punish the bad man because of their respective characters despite what the evidence in the case shows actually happened.&#8221;

(http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rule_404)

In court the character of a witness may also be tested. Even if the statement that a particular witness makes may be considered as evidence, a jury may not accept it based on what they believe to be the credibility of the person who testified. Since some of the alleged victims were addicts, or accepted money from BC via Frank Scotti (http://deadline.com/2014/11/bill-cosby-the-cosby-show-nbc-frank-scotti-1201293952/), a member of the jury might consider their testimony to be suspect, IMO.

Again, I'm not saying that the statements made to the media won't be considered as evidence, just that the possibility exists that at least some of the accusations against BC may never be heard in court as evidence. As to any person's opinion about a particular allegation, I think each person is free to form their own judgement whether in favour of accuser or accused. It may be JMO, but I think it's really important to have a Devil's Advocate is discussion threads to point out the flaws in arguments or gaps in logic.

I'm looking forward to hearing from speculations from lawyers, especially CA lawyers, about how various statements will be sorted out.

 

[AlwaysShocked]

I think that Beverly Johnson coming forward with her story is important and may open the flood gates for even more women to come forward.

By a wide majority, these (alleged) victims do not seem to be interested in filing lawsuits or gaining 15 minutes of fame. It seems they just want their story to be heard - finally.

Bill Cosby had enough money to endow one college with $20 million dollars. Meaning he surely has enough money to hire attorneys to file defamation lawsuits against each of the women. But he has not done so.

We have seen the "big players" - including television networks and the United States Navy - step back from Cosby really quickly. That could be an indication there is credible inside knowledge that has not (yet) become public. The details of the 2006 settlement did not bode well for Cosby, at all.

I understand why the victims did not come forward at the time. I also understand what is making them come forward now. Some of these women are likely grandmothers now. Can you imagine the family discussion between a now 65 year old woman, her daughter who is in her 40's, and a granddaughter who is a 20 yr. old college student?

Grandmother: "I wanted to discuss with the two of you that I also was a victim of being drugged and raped by Bill Cosby. I was 20 at the time and have never talked about it to anyone. Now I am wondering if I too should come forward with this information. What do you think?"

Daughter: "Oh, Mom! You poor thing! That's awful. I honestly don't know what to advise you to do. Because the women who are coming forward are being called liars by fans of Cosby. That could be very upsetting for you to endure."

Granddaughter: "Oh, Grandma, if that is what that pervert did to you, you SHOULD come forward! You owe it to yourself and to all the other women he has harmed over the years to speak out. It doesn't matter what a few misguided people might say. This is YOUR truth and you have the right to tell your story."

 

[waitin'4thewrld2chg]

Some things that might help:

Acting skills. I expect he would have been able to play the part of a nice guy when it suited him better than a random person with no experience of how to handle nice guy roles.

The laughter helps too I think, laughing makes people feel good and so they want to think well of a person who makes them laugh.

Expectations. He had been hyped as America's dad and credited with uniting the races and lots of good things and once that happens some people may see what they expect to see and others may see something else but be unwilling to be the lone dissenting voice who says that the emperor has no clothes.

The money probably helps too. A few days ago I posted an article about people in his hometown and some of them were saying they don't believe it because he's been such a good customer and generous financial contributor. If you reward people with donations, income and are a good tipper or a good provider you might get away with more questionable behavior.

Mind games and cognitive dissonance. Some narcissists can keep it up for a long time because they manage to convince their family black is white or vice versa or teach them to blame themselves if things aren't working, and justifying things to the bitter end. "He is just too trusting and lets things get too far..."

Splitting the world into good and bad people, or weak and the respectable people, or madonnas and prostitutes etc. . If he did this it might explain some of the inconsistent accounts of how he treated people. Why, on the same walk through the town he jovially gave autographs to some people and chastised others for asking the same. Why he kindly mentored some people without incident and drugged and raped others (allegedly). Why some people find him generous and funny and others intimidating and hostile.

:goodpost:

ETA: I have no idea how that little frowning fellow slipped in above. He does not represent my feelings about Donjeta's post. Quite the contrary. Must be a lil grinch.

 

[wendiesan]

Originally Posted by Donjeta

Mind games and cognitive dissonance. Some narcissists can keep it up for a long time because they manage to convince their family black is white or vice versa or teach them to blame themselves if things aren't working, and justifying things to the bitter end. "He is just too trusting and lets things get too far..."
Respectfully snipped for focus.

I absolutely agree with you.

If what at least some of the alleged survivors are saying is true, IMO, it's well within the realm of possibility that BC has been playing incredible games with his entire family. I think it's very likely that BC is a domestic abuser, and,in an effort to keep his family members unaware of his nastier activities, he's been gaslighting them. He's been keeping them so off balance that they have come to doubt that they are capable of making accurate judgements about him. IMO, CC's statements didn't so much defend BC as deflect anything negative about BC.

...since the primary aggressor knows what is actually going on, there will be a certainty of manner, which while it is a lie, is still convincing. Over-time doubt can grow to the point at which the survivor doubts her sanity. Being in relationship with someone with a hidden double life is also gaslighting. Because the primary aggressor has a contrary image to the rest of the world, the survivor knows that she or he will not be believed..

.http://www.abuseandrelationships.org...slighting.html

I think BC's reactions regarding his treatment of people, family included reinforces your earlier comments about his narcissism. For instance, BC's treatment of Terence Howard and Lisa Bonet, among others, shows his reactions to disagreement are way out of proportion and his demands unreasonable. (LB was married to LK when she was pregnant for goodness sake! Lots of shows write pregnancy into the show arcs with no negative results.) I think this description of a narcissistic domestic abuser reinforces your comments.

But in practical terms, pathological narcissism is dedicating oneself to an image of being superior. All feeling and evidence is suppressed if it is not consistent with the image. More oppressively, the image is enforced on others through a mix of actual achievement, impression management, lies, manipulation, and keeping others off balance. If a situation exposes the truth, or others back the narcissist in a corner, rage will emerge. A narcissist cannot tolerate criticism. This does not just mean that a narcissist will reject or dislike criticism, but that he will escalate and lash out in the face of it.

http://www.abuseandrelationships.org...cissistic.html

 

[Donjeta]

Not relevant to the rape allegations but I just thought this was interesting.
http://pagesix.com/2014/12/20/friends-baffled-as-camille-cosby-stands-by-bill-amid-scandal/

This article has the quotes from the Catholic priest who presided over their wedding and I got the notion that Camille is a devout Catholic which might explain the stand by your man aspect (if she considered divorce not an option for religious reasons no matter what).

The just-retired priest recalls Camille and her three siblings, Guy Jr., Rene and Eric, were nothing short of adorable &#8212; and devout.
Camille, with her neatly pressed skirts, immaculately kept hair and the brightest of smiles, stood out because she never missed Sunday Mass. She also took her education seriously, and the Oblate Sisters of St. Francis de Sales provided the foundation for a scholastic career that culminated in a doctorate in education.

But rereading the Oprah interview it seems she does not identify as a Catholic after all

Oprah: Earlier you talked about sustaining yourself in tough times. Do you believe in something bigger than yourself?

Camille: I don't belong to a formal religion, but I am spiritual. I believe there is a spiritual force that cannot be defined in terms of how it looks. I don't believe that it is a he or a she or just an it. I think it is a combination of the above. It is arrogant for humans to create the image of a spiritual force in the image of a human, and especially a male. And until women put more pressure on the major religions to change the pronouns, we will always have a difficult time establishing our rightful place in society.

Camille (continued): I suppose I'm an animist. I see a spiritual force in different aspects of nature&#8212;the trees, the sun and so forth. Nature makes me feel serene. I like to be introspective, look up at the sky at night and think about my son and other loved ones I have lost, knowing that they are there, somewhere.

Read more: http://www.oprah.com/omagazine/Oprah-Interviews-Camille-Cosby#ixzz3MfaAzAN5
Read more: http://www.oprah.com/omagazine/Oprah-Interviews-Camille-Cosby#ixzz3Mfa62W9I

And she has this to say about getting hurt in a marriage:

Camille: Exactly. You demand to be heard. Being a woman is being erect; it is communicating well; it is having positive, reciprocal relationships with your lover, your husband, your friends, your family. In other words, if you give, you want to get back. I don't believe in unconditional love.

Oprah: I've always heard that we should love unconditionally.

Camille: No. That creates the long-suffering female. I think you have the right to not love someone if that person is not lovable.

Oprah: That is so powerful.

Camille: And that concept has to apply to a marriage, a lover, a business associate, a publicist. Even your children have to know that they are not lovable sometimes, that you don't express love for them if they can't love you back. I think it applies to everyone in your life.

Oprah: That makes sense. Over the years, women have said to me, "I love him. I love him." And I say, "Love is not supposed to hurt."

Camille: Love is supposed to feel good.

Read more: http://www.oprah.com/omagazine/Oprah-Interviews-Camille-Cosby#ixzz3MfatgTf6

So, I take it that basically you'd have the right not to love someone if they're a serial rapist and hopeless cheater unless perhaps they can make it feel good somehow.

Oprah: I read that you and Bill went through a time in your marriage when you were both focused on selfish needs.

Camille: We were both young. We had to go through a lot. It's difficult to learn to live with somebody, to be unselfish and to be responsible for your behavior&#8212;and even to think how you hurt others if you do certain things.

Oprah: Like fool around?

Camille: Or anything that is selfish. You go through a transition, if you are committed to each other. You cleanse yourself of all of that baggage, and you look at each other and determine whether the relationship is worth salvaging, whether you really love each other and want to be together. Then you realize, "Wait a minute. I might have been doing this because I just didn't want to think about how this would affect the other person or to allow myself to love someone with emotional intimacy."

Oprah: Onstage, Bill sometimes talks about when your marriage got its juice, when you knew, "We've gelled; we've made it." When did that happen for you?

Camille: When we knew that we really wanted to be with each other, that we didn't want to live without each other. That probably happened ten years after we were married, when we really spent time talking about what marriage means.

Oprah: Do you think marriage is difficult? People say you have to work at it.

Camille: You do. Because you are two different people, and you have to respect that. You have to learn not to project your stuff onto the other person. You have to give the other person space to do what he or she wants to do, to not be threatened by his or her absence or achievements.

Read more: http://www.oprah.com/omagazine/Oprah-Interviews-Camille-Cosby#ixzz3Mfbe095O

Reading this I wonder if BC's way of spinning the running around with the Playboy bunnies and all the rest was to convince Camille that if she minded she was being selfish and not giving him the space he needed to be creative and her jealousy was really hurting him more than the infidelities hurt her.

 

[Donjeta]

http://www.tmz.com/2014/12/22/cnn-bill-cosby-letter-beverly-johnson-drug-victim-boyfriend/

But in a scathing retort, CNN says the boyfriend -- Mark Burk -- was not around when the alleged drugging occurred. The letter also minimizes the relevance that Johnson said bad things to Burk about Cosby.

What's more ... CNN says Cosby's lawyer, Marty Singer, failed to mention Burk has a criminal history ... multiple restraining orders keeping him away from Johnson and threats to kill her.


http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/1222-bill-cosby-cnn-tmz-document.pdf

 

[BirdycatNY]

Another accusation with no legal meaning - she said, he wouldn't say.

So Trino do you think that a case like Cee-lo Green who admitted that he "shared" with girl a drug (she says she was slipped drug) and basically got a slap on the wrist legally isn't SOCIALLY a problem? Do you agree with Cee-lo Green's statement when he said, " He added, &#8220;people who have really been raped REMEMBER!!!&#8221;
Cee Lo Green Tweets Controversial Views on Rape
Tue, 02 September 2014 at 12:20 am
http://www.justjared.com/2014/09/02/cee-lo-green-tweets-controversial-views-on-rape/
Cee-lo allegedly slips drug
http://thecelebritycafe.com/feature/2012/11/cee-lo-green-allegedly-admits-slipping-woman-ecstasy
Cee-lo pleads no contest: https://www.yahoo.com/music/s/ceelo...lony-drug-charge-195300584-rolling-stone.html

If BC were to admit the allegations Trino, what do you think his punishment should be? Even the most recent victim whose allegations fall within SOL? I guess I'm asking you Trino, that if the allegations against Mr. Cosby are true and putting legalities aside, do you understand the seriousness of the crimes and what do you think of the allegations if true? Hypothetically of course, but I'm just trying to gauge what you would consider criminal behavior from the allegations, if true. The reason that I mention Cee-lo Green is because it was legally resolved, so it may be easier for you to comment on your opinion.

* I'll add my comment on quote: There is a SERIOUS societal problem when someone makes a statement like that and if there are more people like that out in society who believe the same, then women survivors/victims need to keep speaking up if they were sexually assaulted so we can protect other potential victims now and in the future from being drugged/physically violated without consent. Maybe we can also change laws like no time limits for SOL, or stronger relations with LE re: sexual assault, or making it easier for women just to speak out. Always JMO

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Using Defamation to Uncover the Truth about Cosby

That means Cosby will have to sit down to a deposition. He will have to answer questions about the truth of his statements wherein he called Green a liar. In order to defend himself, he will have to explain why he believes Ms. Green is a liar. More importantly, he will have to answer questions on a topic he has refused to address for years. The fact that he spoke to the press just days after this suit was filed may be a recognition that he will soon have no choice but to speak -- at a deposition, under oath, with a court reporter transcribing every word.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/heather-hansen/using-defamation-to-uncov_b_6353584.html

 

[Donjeta]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...ll-cosby-lisa-rape-allegations_n_6369030.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...ations-support-black-community_n_6373160.html

 

[Donjeta]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...5ad31e-8528-11e4-9534-f79a23c40e6c_story.html
Until the statement Camille Cosby issued last week, the Associated Press news clip stood as her sole and cryptic testimony about the controversy consuming her family.

As she listens with a rigid smile, she spins a ring on her left hand with the middle finger of her right hand. At times, she seems to be complicit in &#8212; or at least in agreement with &#8212; her husband&#8217;s effort to pressure the AP not to air his refusal to comment. She nods as he berates Brett Zongker, an AP arts reporter.

&#8220;I think that if you want to consider yourself to be serious that it will not appear anywhere,&#8221; Bill Cosby says.

Camille nods.

&#8220;And we thought, by the way, that it would not be necessary to go over that question,&#8221; Bill says.

Camille nods.

&#8220;We thought that AP had the integrity,&#8221; Bill says as Camille nods again, &#8220;to not ask.&#8221;

Camille nods one more time.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...5ad31e-8528-11e4-9534-f79a23c40e6c_story.html
Until the statement Camille Cosby issued last week, the Associated Press news clip stood as her sole and cryptic testimony about the controversy consuming her family.

As she listens with a rigid smile, she spins a ring on her left hand with the middle finger of her right hand. At times, she seems to be complicit in &#8212; or at least in agreement with &#8212; her husband&#8217;s effort to pressure the AP not to air his refusal to comment. She nods as he berates Brett Zongker, an AP arts reporter.

&#8220;I think that if you want to consider yourself to be serious that it will not appear anywhere,&#8221; Bill Cosby says.

Camille nods.

&#8220;And we thought, by the way, that it would not be necessary to go over that question,&#8221; Bill says.

Camille nods.

&#8220;We thought that AP had the integrity,&#8221; Bill says as Camille nods again, &#8220;to not ask.&#8221;

Camille nods one more time.

And?? She supports her husband. I am not sure what you are trying to glean from this?

I gotta tell you it drives me crazy when people read into things.