Rape allegations mount against Bill Cosby #2

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Thanks Conan, better late than never.


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Lena Dunham is a talented writer of comedy. We never miss her show, GIRLS, at my house. Whether she is "The Voice" of millennials, I can't say; I'm nearly old enough to be her grandfather.
 
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Lena Dunham is a talented writer of comedy. We never miss her show, GIRLS, at my house. Whether she is "The Voice" of millennials, I can't say; I'm nearly old enough to be her grandfather.

Lena Dunham is a talented writer of comedy. We never miss her show, GIRLS, at my house. Whether she is "The Voice" of millennials, I can't say; I'm nearly old enough to be her grandfather.

LOL, millennials are running from Lena Dunham. IMO, she has no comedic talent at all and is a vile human being:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...eged-rapist-barry-wasnt-actually-named-barry/

And her show is going down the tubes:

http://deadline.com/2015/01/hbo-ratings-girls-looking-season-premiere-togetherness-1201348361/

No surprise since the details in her book were revealed before the season premier. She has had to hire a crisis manager, but no amount of whitewashing will make what she had done go away. IMO, she and Dan Savage both need to be in prison.
 
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I don't buy it and the more that come forward makes it seems more unlikely to me.
 
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I don't buy it and the more that come forward makes it seems more unlikely to me.

By now I have to wonder if you are part of some damage control team hired by an attorney to refute the allegations against BC. You have yet to make any reasonable argument on his behalf. "I want proof" (which you are unable to define) and "I don't buy it" is meaningless. IMO the latest accuser is so above reproach no one with any sense could believe BC is not a rapist.
 
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Another very eloquent, credible source. She is the wife of a powerful producer. Has no reason to get on Hollywood's bad side with a lie. And she explained sincerely why she state quiet and why she's not now.

I give her a lot of credit for coming forward. It will be interesting to read Martin Singer's response to this allegation.
 
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In the years since that night I have crossed paths with Cosby only once, when my husband, a highly successful Oscar-winning film executive and producer, introduced me to him. I was shaking, wondering if he would recognize me by my unusual first name. His reaction spoke volumes. To Bill Cosby, I was just another stranger.

Too many to recall huh?
 
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This man is a serial rapist. His M.O. practically ensured his victims would not come forward out of shame and embarrassment for (sometimes) putting themselves into precarious situations and having no visible injuries. I'm 99.9 % sure this happened to me (not with a famous person) and there's no way I'd ever tell anybody, except anonymously like this, unless it somehow benefited other victims to do so. I get the long silence and eventual breaking of the silence.
 
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Do some people always play devils advocate on here? They seem to ALWAYS go the other way.
Just MO
 
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In hindsight, Bill Cosby’s old books on love, sex and family are incredibly creepy

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...on-love-sex-and-family-are-incredibly-creepy/
As a boy, Cosby liked to hurt little girls, because they deserved it.

“If a girl wandered on to a football field where I was playing,” he writes of his sports-obsessed childhood, “I might make knocking her down part of my fly pattern, for a girl was only an honorary human being; and if my roller skating assumed a certain grand sweep, a girl or two might hit the cement, not an unfitting position for such a lesser part of humanity.”

Cosby makes no apology for this violence. Girls were a “kind of dopey enemy,” he explains, and boys like him simply “practiced the violence that was so essential to their becoming men.”

That violence ended when puberty started. “In the lineup at school,” Cosby recalls, “I now saw girls as if for the first time: Objects of derision had become objects of desire.” (Objects either way, of course.)

http://myedmondsnews.com/2015/01/ed...bys-april-performance-postponed-indefinitely/

Edmonds Center for the Arts Executive Director Joe McIalwain announced Monday that the April 17 performance featuring embattled comedian Bill Cosby “has been postponed indefinitely.”
 
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I found these quotes very distrubing, Donjeta, and, again, thank you for building the mosaic that portrays a man through the details of his life.

And how does a little boy begin to think it's right to knock over little girls?
How does a man begin to see young women as objects to be used to gratify sexual needs?
When does he see a female child as "only an honorary human being"?
After Adrian Peterson's violence towards his four year old son came to light, a number of men came forward to defend AP with statements that implied this was the way they were raised, and just look at them, they were just fine. It was the way they were raised, and, their mommas did as much to them,and they would never disrespect their mothers for what they did.
Confusion between discipline and brutality.
Except for the brilliant Chris Carter who said in part
""My mom did the best job she could do raising seven kids by herself, but there are thousands of things that I have learned since then that my mom was wrong," he said. "It's the 21st century - my mom was wrong. She did the best she could but she was wrong about some of that stuff she taught me and I promised my kids I won't teach that mess to them."
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/cris-c...nse-adrian-petersons-arrest/story?id=25493942

I think if we look at the influences in BC's early life, we may see a little bit of the "why", which is a baffling as the "what" in these allegations has proven to be shocking. (With a nod to Tricia G. here.)
FWIW:

CHILDREN LEARN WHAT THEY LIVE
Dorothy Law Nolte

If a child lives with criticism,
he learns to condemn.
If a child lives with hostility,
he learns to fight.
If a child lives with fear,
he learns to be apprehensive.
If a child lives with pity,
he learns to feel sorry for himself.
If a child lives with ridicule,
he learns to be shy.
If a child lives with jealousy,
he learns what envy is.
If a child lives with shame,
he learns to feel guilty.
If a child lives with encouragement,
he learns to be confident.
If a child lives with tolerance,
he learns to be patient.
If a child lives with praise,
he learns to be appreciative.
If a child lives with acceptance,
he learns to love.
If a child lives with approval,
he learns to like himself.
If a child lives with recognition,
he learns that it is good to have a goal.
If a child lives with sharing,
he learns about generosity.
If a child lives with honesty and fairness,
he learns what truth and justice are.
If a child lives with security,
he learns to have faith in himself and in those about him.
If a child lives with friendliness,
he learns that the world is a nice place in which to live.
If you live with serenity,
your child will live with peace of mind.
With what is your child living?
 
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By now I have to wonder if you are part of some damage control team hired by an attorney to refute the allegations against BC. You have yet to make any reasonable argument on his behalf. "I want proof" (which you are unable to define) and "I don't buy it" is meaningless. IMO the latest accuser is so above reproach no one with any sense could believe BC is not a rapist.

I don't buy it. I can say it another way but that is simplest. Yes.. of course. I am part of the pr team.. Or it could be I can think for myself and just can see another side when weighing all the facts.

I just don't buy it all. If there are this many.. that truly were assaulted and none of them back in the 60's went and reported it, there is something off there. It seems to me too easy to make up a story that fits the others ..

Also I don't convict people based on media reports as we know they can be dead wrong.

Just because someone says something does not make it true. People can remember wrong, they can look at it through skewed eyes of shame.
I want some proof that is not a story from 4 decades ago before I will even consider the stories..
 
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I don't buy it. I can say it another way but that is simplest. Yes.. of course. I am part of the pr team.. Or it could be I can think for myself and just can see another side when weighing all the facts.

I just don't buy it all. If there are this many.. that truly were assaulted and none of them back in the 60's went and reported it, there is something off there. It seems to me too easy to make up a story that fits the others ..

Also I don't convict people based on media reports as we know they can be dead wrong.

Just because someone says something does not make it true. People can remember wrong, they can look at it through skewed eyes of shame.
I want some proof that is not a story from 4 decades ago before I will even consider the stories..

Forensic proof is long gone. Also, when you are incapacitated to the point of being unable to give consent, it's easy for a person to have sex with you and not incur any bruises/scratches/scrapes, which would be indicative of a rape/putting up a fight. I don't find it hard to believe at all that back in the 60's, when "date rape" wasn't even a term, that people would be afraid to speak up. It's similar to child molestation.....the lay of the land (no pun intended) back then was to remain silent.

ETA: I'm just adding this as my personal experience that may or may not have happened to one or more of these women, and I'm still loathe to provide this amount of personal information about myself. In my case, I did not even find out until 3 weeks later that sex had occurred. I was assured by this nice man, the next morning when I woke up with no recollection of the night before and barely clothed, that nothing at all had happened. He was charming and reassuring, protective-like (much like I'd imagine Bill Cosby would be). It wasn't until 3 weeks later when we were HIKING that he casually told me that yes, we had sex that night. I didn't even believe him at first since (thought he was kidding) because I thought he was being honest the first time, which was the first night we met. His excuse was that he thought I was being "demure" because I was embarrassed that we'd done that at on the first date and he insisted I was "very into it." I didn't believe a word of it and never saw him again. Now, how exactly would I have gone about pressing charges against this person 3 weeks after the fact when I put myself into a precarious position, consuming alcohol on a first date? I'm not going to go into detail about what led up to that night/where we went on our date, but it was basically a typical date where cocktails and casual conversation were involved and that's it. At least that was all it was supposed to be. Until I couldn't remember anything after a specific period of time (where I went to the bathroom.)
 
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