"Real Housewives" Russell Armstrong Commits Suicide

www.TMZ.com is reporting that Russell's family isn't buying suicide as Russell's cause of death. They have hired a private detective to look into it.

Sad, people never want to accept the fact that their own child could take their own life. Sounds like his parents are now in the denial phase since the initial shock of his suicide has most likely passed. They are just searching now for answers to questions that they will never find. Russell took his own life but I'm sure there are going to be people that think someone else made Russell tie that rope around his neck.
 
Sad, people never want to accept the fact that their own child could take their own life. Sounds like his parents are now in the denial phase since the initial shock of his suicide has most likely passed. They are just searching now for answers to questions that they will never find. Russell took his own life but I'm sure there are going to be people that think someone else made Russell tie that rope around his neck.

According to the autopsy report (as reported on Nancy Grace last night, if you can call NG reporting) Russell's body had all kinds of bruises and abrasions on it when he was found.

Also Russell's business partner Alan Schram was found dead in a vehicle the next day of an apparent self inflicted gunshot wound to the head.


Makes one wonder if possibly Alan had something to do with Russell's death and then ended his own life or if someone might have killed them both and staged the scenes to look like suicides.

JMO



Russell Armstrong's Business Associate Alan Schram Found Dead Day After "Housewives" Husband's Suicide

The untimely death of "Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" star Taylor Armstrong's husband, Russell Armstrong wasn't the only tragedy to hit the family earlier this month. The day after Armstrong was found dead, having committed suicide by hanging, his friend and business colleague, Alan Schram, was found dead, according to Business Insider.

Schram's body was discovered on August 16 in a vehicle in L.A. with a fatal gunshot wound to the head -- the shot was reportedly self-inflicted, TMZ reports.

Read more at link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...strong-houseewives-dead-suicide_n_941684.html
 
TMZ has the autopsy available for download, so anyone can see it for themselves.

Also, it seems the relationship between Alan Schram and Russell hasn't been proven yet. At least, I haven't seen it, and I have followed this very closely from the beginning. The only thing we know for sure about Alan Schram is that both he and Russell were members of that Tiger21 club. Otherwise, there has been no evidence that they were business partners, or friends, or anything else. And, we don't know the address on Mulholland where Schram shot himself, so we don't know if it was close to the home where Russell hung himself.

There is more that we don't know about Schram, than what we do know.
 
There is an awful lot of bruising and abrasions for someone that just hung themselves. I would think the only explanation for the bruising and abrasions would be he either tried to hurt himself prior to the hanging but was unsuccessful in killing himself, for example jumping off of something or he was in an altercation with someone that has not come forward. If it was the killer that caused the injuries I doubt we will hear from him or her.

JMO


Link to Russell Armstrong's autopsy report: http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0907_armstrong.pdf


Excerpt explaining bruising from autopsy report.

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TMZ has the autopsy available for download, so anyone can see it for themselves.

Also, it seems the relationship between Alan Schram and Russell hasn't been proven yet. At least, I haven't seen it, and I have followed this very closely from the beginning. The only thing we know for sure about Alan Schram is that both he and Russell were members of that Tiger21 club. Otherwise, there has been no evidence that they were business partners, or friends, or anything else. And, we don't know the address on Mulholland where Schram shot himself, so we don't know if it was close to the home where Russell hung himself.

There is more that we don't know about Schram, than what we do know.

Russell's sister referred to Schram as her brother's business partner (or something similar) on NG last night and commented on how this was one of the main reasons she didn't believe it was suicide. I don't believe his sister would make concrete statements about the relationship between the 2 men or considered Schram's death to be relevant if they in fact had no relationship with each other. She said that she had held off on making any public comments regarding the circumstances of his death until after the funeral, but she had believed from the beginning there was a strong possibility it wasn't suicide. She based this opinion on her personal knowledge of his life at the time of his death and the condition of his body. Obviously, now we all can read the autopsy report and see that he had injuries that weren't consistent with a suicide, but I'm assuming she has known since the beginning that those things were present.

I understand family members not wanting to believe their loved one killed themselves and actually expect that reaction, especially when they are confronted/interviewed publicly about the subject, but she didn't say - "oh, he was depressed and had $ troubles, but he would never have done this" as we see in many cases where families are in denial over the act. She actually gave factual reasons why she didn't believe it was suicide - the injuries on the body that aren't consistent with suicide and the partner's death/suicide on the same street and within hours of Russell's death/suicide. It very well may turn out that these 2 events are nothing more than one very odd coincidence, but at the very least it makes me think there should be an investigation into both deaths as possibly being related before each case is closed as a suicide.
 
? I didnt find the abrasions or bruising that extensive fwiw. I constantly have a bruise on the back of my thigh because I sit on my opposite foot. Perhaps he was playing basketball or raquet ball in the days before he died.
 
? I didnt find the abrasions or bruising that extensive fwiw. I constantly have a bruise on the back of my thigh because I sit on my opposite foot. Perhaps he was playing basketball or raquet ball in the days before he died.

I agree with you. I always have some sort of bruise on me because of hitting my leg on my desk or running into something like a door. I'm quit clumsy so I don't think the bruising is strange in this case at all. Also if you look at the autopsy report the marks on his neck are in relation to the electrical cord being around his neck. If he was strangled first to make it look like a suicide then the marks on his neck would have been different and not so high up on the back side of his head near his ears.
 
Russell's sister referred to Schram as her brother's business partner (or something similar) on NG last night and commented on how this was one of the main reasons she didn't believe it was suicide. I don't believe his sister would make concrete statements about the relationship between the 2 men or considered Schram's death to be relevant if they in fact had no relationship with each other. She said that she had held off on making any public comments regarding the circumstances of his death until after the funeral, but she had believed from the beginning there was a strong possibility it wasn't suicide. She based this opinion on her personal knowledge of his life at the time of his death and the condition of his body. Obviously, now we all can read the autopsy report and see that he had injuries that weren't consistent with a suicide, but I'm assuming she has known since the beginning that those things were present.

I understand family members not wanting to believe their loved one killed themselves and actually expect that reaction, especially when they are confronted/interviewed publicly about the subject, but she didn't say - "oh, he was depressed and had $ troubles, but he would never have done this" as we see in many cases where families are in denial over the act. She actually gave factual reasons why she didn't believe it was suicide - the injuries on the body that aren't consistent with suicide and the partner's death/suicide on the same street and within hours of Russell's death/suicide. It very well may turn out that these 2 events are nothing more than one very odd coincidence, but at the very least it makes me think there should be an investigation into both deaths as possibly being related before each case is closed as a suicide.
You are right, his sister did say that. However, I myself take anything Russell's family says with some caution. (In fact, I am cautious about everything that everyone says about this case!) I doubt that his sister knows for a fact, from personal knowledge who Russell's friends, business associates, and acquaintances are. She might have known some of them when she was being treated for her drug addiction at that Malibu recovery center, but I believe she is getting all her current information through Ronald Richards, Russell's former attorney, who they have now supposedly hired, and maybe through a private eye that the family has supposedly hired. Plus, whatever TMZ passes on to the family.

We know the two men, Armstrong and Schram both belonged to Tiger21, the exclusive club for guys who like to impress each other with how rich they are. And, in a recent article, even Taylor is said to have said that they did know each other through that club and did become friends. So, thats about all I can safely assume. Don't know the exact nature of nor how close their friendship was.

The other thing is, is that we do not know exactly where Schram committed suicide. All I could ever find was that it was done OUTSIDE HIS (Schram's) CAR on Mulholland Drive. Do you know how long Mulholland Drive is? Its very very long. So, I am unclear on how the reports have somehow morphed into Schram's suicide happening right outside the home Russell was staying in.

The other thing that struck me, and I think it was Nancy's show yesterday, but it might have been Jane's, where the mother, Russell's mother, claimed that $90,000 had been charged to Russell's credit card in June, in her passive aggressive way, stated outright that Taylor was responsible for that charge. Beyond that, one would have to use their imagination to 'get' what it is the mother was inferring. I just don't know and am unwilling to guess.

I personally don't care, one way or the other if they want the whole thing investigated as some nefarious murder. It will certainly add to the movie script. I don't see that Russell's suicide is a murder. But, that's just me. I am willing to listen to what people have to say.

I am interested in how Schram might or might not fit into the whole thing. I never saw an obit for him, or anything about a family, or anything except that he lied about a degree from UCLA. So, he is a mystery to me.
 
Im not sure that Schram and Russell were that close of friends. I think its just coincidence. I read somewhere they were not that closely connected. (sorry, I cant link it because Im a celebrity news fanatic and have no idea where I saw it) I think Russell did hang himself, unfortunate and sad as it is. I wish he would have left a note so those close to him dont have to be put through this added torture of "wondering". So many times, the people closest just cannot believe their loved one committed suicide, and sadly most of the time, they really did. It is what is seems.
Its so heartbreaking that so many people think suicide is their best option..
 
Im not blaming Taylor because its too unfair to blame someone elses decision to kill themselves on another person, thats just unfair. But..I do think there was allot of stress involved with keeping up with that lifestyle and I think Taylor loved her lifestyle and money.. I believe she did continue to spend money on Russel's credit card after the separation.. I also feel kind of sorry for her when I see the show, it seems like she really wanted her marriage to Russell to work. Of course, I know none of these people, lol. Who knows what the real truth is.
Im sure Russell's family is bitter and find it easy to blame Taylor but thats allot to put on somebody. whew!
 
Im not sure that Schram and Russell were that close of friends. I think its just coincidence. I read somewhere they were not that closely connected. (sorry, I cant link it because Im a celebrity news fanatic and have no idea where I saw it) I think Russell did hang himself, unfortunate and sad as it is. I wish he would have left a note so those close to him dont have to be put through this added torture of "wondering". So many times, the people closest just cannot believe their loved one committed suicide, and sadly most of the time, they really did. It is what is seems.
Its so heartbreaking that so many people think suicide is their best option..

Yes, exactly, Russell killed himself. No one else forced that extention cord around his neck and as for the other suicide the next day....just a coincidence. Like I had said earlier....Russells family is in the denial phase right now thinking that there is no way in the world that "their" son could have killed himself. Well sorry my first husband killed himself and his parents and even myself went through the same thing thinking that there was no way he would kill himself but we all had to come to the morbid fact that he did indeed take his own life. I feel bad for his family and what they are dealing with. There are so many emotions that you have after a suicide. At first I was in shock, then came the denial and then I was angry for him leaving me to deal with everything and taking the easy way out. I really don't know how else to explain the all the feelings a person will experience. The one thing I do know is that the actual real reason a person takes their own life is really only known by that person. I tried for years to figure out why he killed himself and the sad truth is that I will never know. I'm sure Russells family is also upset that there wasn't a suicide note left. Sometimes if there is a note it might give some insite as to why the person took their own life but I never found a note so that was another shock. I wanted some sort of explanation of what he was feeling at the time he made his decision to take his own life. Sometimes we just don't find these answers and we have to just go on with our lives.
 
It would be interesting to know when the photo of Taylor's black eye was taken in relation to when Russell supposedly committed suicide.

Could Russell have received the bruises and abrasions on his body that were observed during his autopsy in one of the alleged confrontation between he and Taylor? Russell knowing that Taylor would be seen in public with a black eye and that he would be exposed for the abuse that apparently was taking place, could have pushed him over the limit to commit suicide along with his other reported problems.

JMO
 
It would be interesting to know when the photo of Taylor's black eye was taken in relation to when Russell supposedly committed suicide.

Could Russell have received the bruises and abrasions on his body that were observed during his autopsy in one of the alleged confrontation between he and Taylor? Russell knowing that Taylor would be seen in public with a black eye and that he would be exposed for the abuse that apparently was taking place, could have pushed him over the limit to commit suicide along with his other reported problems.

JMO

Most men who do abuse women don't like their dirty little secrets let out of the bag. I think there is a really good possiblity that Russell knew that Taylor would be seen with that black eye and people would know she didn't get a black eye doing her nails. Russell most likely couldn't deal with what would happen to him after everyone caught on that he was the reason for the black eye and bruises on Taylor.
 
Answer to my question above wondering when Taylor received her black eye.

Taylor said she was hit a "few days" after her eye surgery which was on July 5th, but Russell didn't committed suicide until more than a month later on August 15th according to the autopsy report. I think any injury's he would have received at the time of the eye injury would have been healed.



Taylor Armstrong Opens Up After Husband's Suicide

Taylor claimed that a few days after undergoing laser eye surgery on July 5, her husband hit her so hard that the blows dislocated her corneal flap, according to the Daily Mail.

http://www.thirdage.com/news/taylor-armstrong-opens-up-after-husbands-suicide_09-13-2011
 
Most men who do abuse women don't like their dirty little secrets let out of the bag. I think there is a really good possiblity that Russell knew that Taylor would be seen with that black eye and people would know she didn't get a black eye doing her nails. Russell most likely couldn't deal with what would happen to him after everyone caught on that he was the reason for the black eye and bruises on Taylor.

BBM

Here is what I would consider was his motive for committing suicide.

The Real Housewives Confronted Taylor Armstrong About Russell Abuse Allegations


The cast of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills confronted fellow housewife, Taylor Armstrong, about allegations that her then husband, Russell Armstrong had physically abused her, and the emotional event was filmed for the Bravo hit television show, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.

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Prior to his suicide, the network had planned on airing the shocking revelation of abuse as part of the season finale.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...or-armstrong-russell-abuse-allegations-season
 
I think there were probably many things going on in Russell's life that we do not know about and probably Taylor did not know about. I think there were several dark secrets that drove him over the edge. He could have just withdrawn from the show. He wasn't even getting paid for his appearance.
 
I'm watching.

I always do.

I was a little uncomfortable with this weeks show. Taylor LOST it at Camile's home. You can tell she was going trough so much.
She talked about how much she loved Russell. But she was SO unhappy. That was clear.

I do believe that since it is a reality show, they are showing the reality of a marriage falling apart. We just have to understand that this was the struggle before the suicide.

I hope Russell is resting in peace.
I hope Taylor is getting the help she needs.

BTW, I saw that Taylor is going to be on Dr. Phil one day this week. I forgot what day.
 

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