Rebecca and Max Timeline

[bourne]

I personally have NO idea! :fence: And I haven't heard any rumors...

The 24 hours after little Max's fall were, without a doubt, fraught with anguish, heartbreak, emotional pain, despair and shock. The need to know exactly what happened would obviously lead to numerous potential scenarios and speculation. I can only imagine if I were a doctor and my very best friend's child was in critical condition, I would go to the end of the world to alleviate his pain.

Do I think he knows something that could shed light on the case? You bet. But just my opinion, as always.

I think you may be correct that Luber knows more about the circumstances surrounding Becky's death than we do. But I don't think he participated in Becky's lynching because I don't see that he had any reason to hate Becky. Did he blame Becky for Max's accident? I don't think so. Did he feel Jonah's pain? Likely, but as he said in Ann Rule's book, "Jonah loves Becky". I don't think Luber would hurt Becky when his best friend Jonah was happy and at peace with Becky.

Also, I think men tend to let other men, including their best friends, solve their own problems. Most men don't take other men's problems into their own hands. This doesn't mean they don't care about their friends, but that they believe their male friends can handle their problems on their own and is a sign of respect.

 

[Carioca]

(Am posting this in timeline thread even though it is post-Rebecca's death)
I know this image from a news video was discussed ad nauseum last year, many questioning whether it was Dina at the door chatting with LE the morning Adam stumbled upon Rebecca's body. At the time (July/August 2011), a poster at Patch felt compelled to leave a comment saying she/he was walking by Spreckels that morning and emphatically identified the woman as Dina. No doubt in her/his mind as had been in Dina's physical presence previously. BTW female LE do not arrive at crime scenes carrying large black purses or handbags.

Now, thanks to Dina having come forward with gusto in the media, we have actual photos to make the comparison. Aligning the shoulders and the knees in both images, and taking into consideration the woman at the door is hunched over with head lowered, IMO the resemblance is quite extraordinary.

Thus, IF this is indeed Dina, we have not only criminal defense attorney Paul Pfingst behind the Crime Scene Tape, we have ex-wife of mansion owner, mother of critically injured child BEHIND Crime Scene Tape. Excuse my French but WTF :furious: It's no wonder SDSO wanted to sweep this case under the carpet as quickly as possible. As investigators and LE, they stepped in so much poop, they mistakenly thought simply throwing their shoes in the garbage would cover up the stench. IMO always.

 

[bourne]

(Am posting this in timeline thread even though it is post-Rebecca's death)
I know this image from a news video was discussed ad nauseum last year, many questioning whether it was Dina at the door chatting with LE the morning Adam stumbled upon Rebecca's body. At the time (July/August 2011), a poster at Patch felt compelled to leave a comment saying she/he was walking by Spreckels that morning and emphatically identified the woman as Dina. No doubt in her/his mind as had been in Dina's physical presence previously. BTW female LE do not arrive at crime scenes carrying large black purses or handbags.

Now, thanks to Dina having come forward with gusto in the media, we have actual photos to make the comparison. Aligning the shoulders and the knees in both images, and taking into consideration the woman at the door is hunched over with head lowered, IMO the resemblance is quite extraordinary.

Thus, IF this is indeed Dina, we have not only criminal defense attorney Paul Pfingst behind the Crime Scene Tape, we have ex-wife of mansion owner, mother of critically injured child BEHIND Crime Scene Tape. Excuse my French but WTF :furious: It's no wonder SDSO wanted to sweep this case under the carpet as quickly as possible. As investigators and LE, they stepped in so much poop, they mistakenly thought simply throwing their shoes in the garbage would cover up the stench. IMO always.

WOW! WTF :what:

Thank you for the side-by-side comparison. It IS DINA entering the Spreckels mansion on Wed morning. OMFG that means she contaminated the crime scene! She, along with Pfingst, likely set the "Becky killed my son and committed suicide" mantra in motion for the cops!

No wonder the cops changed their tune about the "violent suspicious death" of Rebecca to "suicide" by Wed afternoon!

 

[Inparadise]

WOW! WTF :what:

Thank you for the side-by-side comparison. It IS DINA entering the Spreckels mansion on Wed morning. OMFG that means she contaminated the crime scene! She, along with Pfingst, likely set the "Becky killed my son and committed suicide" mantra in motion for the cops!

No wonder the cops changed their tune about the "violent suspicious death" of Rebecca to "suicide" by Wed afternoon!

A woman who was driving past Spreckels between 11am and noon on 7/13/2011 claimed that as she was stopped in traffic right in front of the house, she noticed a well dressed/groomed woman wearing a light pant suit, with long dark hair and carrying a large black purse. She said that she stood out from the others at the crime scene. IMO, it was Dina, and she likely just dropped by perhaps under the guise of picking up something for Max on her way to the hospital, to see what the mood of the crime scene was, and to plant the seeds of "suicide"............

 

[bourne]

Carioca, can u send the two pics to Anne Bremner, cbs8 David Gottlieb (?) and upload them onto the latest Patch article re: Zahau case? I think everyone would be interested to know that Dina was ENTERING & contaminating the crime scene at the mansion Wed morn!

 

[Inparadise]

Carioca, can u send the two pics to Anne Bremner, cbs8 David Gottlieb (?) and upload them onto the latest Patch article re: Zahau case? I think everyone would be interested to know that Dina was ENTERING & contaminating the crime scene at the mansion Wed morn!

IMO, she doesn't appear in the picture to be upset about her son's condition, does she?

 

[Carioca]

WOW! WTF :what:

Thank you for the side-by-side comparison. It IS DINA entering the Spreckels mansion on Wed morning. OMFG that means she contaminated the crime scene! She, along with Pfingst, likely set the "Becky killed my son and committed suicide" mantra in motion for the cops!

No wonder the cops changed their tune about the "violent suspicious death" of Rebecca to "suicide" by Wed afternoon!

Yup, bourne. You got it. Although it sure looks like Dina in the video, until proven, it will remain a factoid. But if it is indeed one and the same, she must have had a compelling reason to, once again, leave her critically injured little son's bedside that Wednesday when, according to Nina's interview, they first heard the extent of the damages.

REPORTER:
At what point on Wednesday did they tell you ["that if he was to come out of the come he would be a vegetable"]?

NINA:
I believe it was in the afternoon, after they did – after they got the results from the MRI.

[...]

REPORTER:
There's no doubt in your mind or in Dina's mind that Rebecca committed suicide?

NINA:
Oh I think she committed suicide for sure. Oh yeah. I think she was guilty. I think she felt guilty. I think that -- my experience, I'm only speaking for myself -- but I think from my experience, she knew more than what she disclosed.

 

[time]

(Am posting this in timeline thread even though it is post-Rebecca's death)
I know this image from a news video was discussed ad nauseum last year, many questioning whether it was Dina at the door chatting with LE the morning Adam stumbled upon Rebecca's body. At the time (July/August 2011), a poster at Patch felt compelled to leave a comment saying she/he was walking by Spreckels that morning and emphatically identified the woman as Dina. No doubt in her/his mind as had been in Dina's physical presence previously. BTW female LE do not arrive at crime scenes carrying large black purses or handbags.

Now, thanks to Dina having come forward with gusto in the media, we have actual photos to make the comparison. Aligning the shoulders and the knees in both images, and taking into consideration the woman at the door is hunched over with head lowered, IMO the resemblance is quite extraordinary.

Thus, IF this is indeed Dina, we have not only criminal defense attorney Paul Pfingst behind the Crime Scene Tape, we have ex-wife of mansion owner, mother of critically injured child BEHIND Crime Scene Tape. Excuse my French but WTF :furious: It's no wonder SDSO wanted to sweep this case under the carpet as quickly as possible. As investigators and LE, they stepped in so much poop, they mistakenly thought simply throwing their shoes in the garbage would cover up the stench. IMO always.

I've noticed before that Dina has a distinctive rounded back... seems that also shows in these comparisons.

 

[Carioca]

Carioca, can u send the two pics to Anne Bremner, cbs8 David Gottlieb (?) and upload them onto the latest Patch article re: Zahau case? I think everyone would be interested to know that Dina was ENTERING & contaminating the crime scene at the mansion Wed morn!

bourne - albeit the resemblance is uncanny, it is not fact... Thus IMO best not to make a public accusation... Those who should know are already aware..

 

[Bonepile]

That woman pictured above is not Dina. She is an asian investigator and that snap of her back is her entering the crime scene that morning. I kept the photo shown below as I thought "an asian female investigator investigating the demise of another asian female". The photo below is her after entering the scene and now answering the door with her white gloves on and her shoulder purse which is now her notebook. It is the same grey pants suit, the same hair style, etc.

 

[bourne]

That woman pictured above is not Dina. She is an asian investigator and that snap of her back is her entering the crime scene that morning. I kept the photo shown below as I thought "an asian female investigator investigating the demise of another asian female". The photo below is her after entering the scene and now answering the door with her white gloves on and her shoulder purse which is now her notebook. It is the same grey pants suit, the same hair style, etc.

I think you are incorrect. The Asian female is standing inside the home in an elevated area, while the pic with woman entering is walking through the doorway from the outside. This indicates that the Asian female is shorter than the woman entering. Also the Asian female is a lot thinner than the woman entering the door and also wearing different clothes. Hair color is also different unless you're thinking the Asian female changed clothes or dyed her hair? Are the two pics taken on different days?

The only way to resolve this is to directly ask the male investigator holding a cup in the pic. He obviously let the woman into the Spreckels home so he should remember whom he admitted inside the home.

 

[bourne]

bourne - albeit the resemblance is uncanny, it is not fact... Thus IMO best not to make a public accusation... Those who should know are already aware..

I agree. That's why I think it'd be a good idea to send the pics -- including the one with Asian female investigator -- to Anne Bremner and let her investigators solve that issue once and for all.

 

[Bonepile]

I think you are incorrect. The Asian female is standing inside the home in an elevated area, while the pic with woman entering is walking through the doorway from the outside. This indicates that the Asian female is shorter than the woman entering. Also the Asian female is a lot thinner than the woman entering the door and also wearing different clothes. Hair color is also different unless you're thinking the Asian female changed clothes or dyed her hair? Are the two pics taken on different days?

Same hair color, same grey pants suit one photo is totally out of focus the other sharp and clear. I have lined up the photos using the open door as a comparison and the woman's height is almost spot on considering that the woman entering is closer by a foot or two to the camera, and the asian is set back, but then one interpretation is just as good as the other.

 

[Carioca]

Same hair color, same grey pants suit one photo is totally out of focus the other sharp and clear. I have lined up the photos using the open door as a comparison and the woman's height is almost spot on considering that the woman entering is closer by a foot or two to the camera, and the asian is set back, but then one interpretation is just as good as the other.

Bonepile - I agree same hair color and possibly same color pant suit -- although one is definitely grey while the other looks more a baggy cream off white. But what calls my attention is the posture, seemingly casual with hand to her face, the black soft bag that sags down at the opening -- not firm like a PC bag or the item the Asian is holding, and the woman with her back to the door seems much heavier, whereas the Asian looks quite slim.

To create this composite, I placed one photo over the other, aligning the railing on the landing, and sizing by referencing the door jamb and landing railing. I also placed the photo of Dina directly over the woman in the door, and it was a perfect match. Have included the original image below the enlargement for crisper viewing... One interpretation is as good as another. But the ramifications of one is quite significant. BTW would love to know where your image is from. I've seen it before but not in context.

 

[Bonepile]

BTW would love to know where your image is from. I've seen it before but not in context.

I found it back then by typing the subject into "Google images" and up it popped. Thanks.

 

[bourne]

Bonepile - I agree same hair color and possibly same color pant suit -- although one is definitely grey while the other looks more a baggy cream off white. But what calls my attention is the posture, seemingly casual with hand to her face, the black soft bag that sags down at the opening -- not firm like a PC bag or the item the Asian is holding, and the woman with her back to the door seems much heavier, whereas the Asian looks quite slim.

To create this composite, I placed one photo over the other, aligning the railing on the landing, and sizing by referencing the door jamb and landing railing. I also placed the photo of Dina directly over the woman in the door, and it was a perfect match. Have included the original image below the enlargement for crisper viewing... One interpretation is as good as another. But the ramifications of one is quite significant. BTW would love to know where your image is from. I've seen it before but not in context.

I think we all made excellent points regarding the pics. Carioca, I'm very impressed with your technical expertise here on graphics composite comparison! Which software do you use?

I was talking to a friend who works for Lockheed Martin and he says the FBI is working on an innovative program called "Next Generation Identification" which uses not only complex facial recognition programs but also iris scans as well as voice IDs and DNA analysis to identify POIs. He also says Google and Facebook use rudimentary face recognition programs to cross-link faces in pics we post online. I LOVE science! :great:

 

[Carioca]

Thank bourne! For this, just simple ole Photoshop using layering, color levels, and opacity.

Next Generation Identification. Cool! Sounds like the iris scans when going through immigration at some international airports.

 

[Bonepile]

Hey Carioca ... interesting to type "asian investigator Spreckles mansion" into Google images and have both our photos pop up with a lead to this thread. Did not know the internet was that thorough.

 

[Carioca]

Hey Carioca ... interesting to type "asian investigator Spreckles mansion" into Google images and have both our photos pop up with a lead to this thread. Did not know the internet was that thorough.

Not only thorough but also quick! I cringed when referring to the investigator as "Asian" as didn't seem politically correct... but was needed in order to identify who it was in the photo, I guess.

Maybe she'll see our photos in Google Images and come forward and let us know if that's her in both photos or not!

 

[bourne]

Thank bourne! For this, just simple ole Photoshop using layering, color levels, and opacity.

Next Generation Identification. Cool! Sounds like the iris scans when going through immigration at some international airports.

You're just too good to be true, Carioca! So multi-talented in searching and acquiring documents, digital photography analysis, etc. What can you not do? :yourock:

Oh, do you know if the Asian investigator is Angela Tsuida? Maybe we can contact her and ask about the pic.