Rebecca's cell phone records

[SophieRose]

FWIW I used to have Att. The bill was in my name but I could change any of the user names for each line on my account to reflect the actual user. So, if all we have is a bill with a user name it doesn't really tell us who owns the account or number. I think this will change the caller ID when you are calling out.

http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB100449&cv=820#fbid=zqS6xEQb61a


Update the user profile name/nickname for a phone number associated with my account

1. Go to the Profile page in myAT&T.
2. Select the telephone number associated with the user name/nickname you wish to update.
3. In the Primary User box, select the Edit User Information link.
4. Complete the desired information: First name, middle initial, last name, email address, gender, and browser language.
5. Select Save Changes.

Thanks. That's what I thought. It would be so much easier for people to see names rather than numbers on their accounts when they have multiple users.

 

[SunnieRN]

Why would JS want to release anything at all at this point? I don't see him offering to assist those who have been pointing fingers at him as being responsible.

JMO

Maybe he would be willing to disclose this, since he stated to LE that he left Rebecca a voice mail at around 12:30 in the morning, reporting a change in Max's condition, that does not show up on Rebecca's phone as an incoming call.

If he is unwilling to disclose his phone records it would cause me to ask why and also to be suspicious about the circumstances surrounding his statement.

 

[justice be served]

Why would JS want to release anything at all at this point? I don't see him offering to assist those who have been pointing fingers at him as being responsible.

JMO

IMO JS' lack of response to releasing his phone records to prove that, indeed, he voicemailed Rebecca that Max's death was imminent and that, because of that voicemail, Rebecca took her own life would validate to some degree LE's theory of why it was ruled a suicide. That is an important element to clear up.

I don't see it as 'offering to assist those who have been pointing fingers at him as being responsible'. The public outcry is over the fact that the PC left out numerous unanswered questions - including the voicemail which according to LE was absolutely pivotal on the suicide ruling.

If it is his intention (who knows?) to keep this information private, then the public will continue to form its own conclusions which cements the negative about Jonah. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to form those conclusions.

 

[CocoChanel]

Why would JS want to release anything at all at this point? I don't see him offering to assist those who have been pointing fingers at him as being responsible.

JMO

I am very serious when I state I hope and pray that LE does not have this same thought process. I am proud that in this country you have the freedom to voice this opinion MyBelle, really I am. Just as I am very happy that I can debate it with you openly here in a respectful way. I would be very concerned if LE investigating this case had a similar opinion.

 

[tvscum]

I don't believe AT&T keeps deleted phone messages on servers.

JMO

What I am saying is, AT&T may have a backup copy of the audio voicemail before it was deleted. They must have backup tapes rolling on their servers constantly.

 

[MyBelle]

What I am saying is, AT&T may have a backup copy of the audio voicemail before it was deleted. They must have backup tapes rolling on their servers constantly.

I think the point of deleting messages is to free up server space. If the person receiving the message doesn't want to keep it, why would AT&T?

 

[tvscum]

I think the point of deleting messages is to free up server space. If the person receiving the message doesn't want to keep it, why would AT&T?

In case their main server suffers a complete failure, all the un-deleted messages can be retrieved from backup. It just depends how long they keep the backups, and the timing. I admit the timing is not good, just 20 minutes before the message was deleted.

 

[CocoChanel]

Did the Zahau's attorney mention anything about subpoenaing (sp?) the phone records herself? She might be doing that without fanfare, just wondered if we heard her talk about it. At any rate, I hope she is. And I hope she is granted the subpoena. And I hope she is forthcoming with whatever information she gets from those records, even if it confirms what JS has stated. I am also realistic enough to know she is serving the interests of her clients, and anything that does not do that would not be hers to tell. That is the unfortunate flaw in our system I suppose for those of us who just want to know the truth, no matter what it is. sigh.....

 

[MyBelle]

In case their main server suffers a complete failure, all the un-deleted messages can be retrieved from backup. It just depends how long they keep the backups, and the timing. I admit the timing is not good, just 20 minutes before the message was deleted.

It's not a service that is guaranteed to always work. I don't see any phone company spending money to back up messages that may be deleted anyway.

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

Did the Zahau's attorney mention anything about subpoenaing (sp?) the phone records herself? She might be doing that without fanfare, just wondered if we heard her talk about it. At any rate, I hope she is. And I hope she is granted the subpoena. And I hope she is forthcoming with whatever information she gets from those records, even if it confirms what JS has stated. I am also realistic enough to know she is serving the interests of her clients, and anything that does not do that would not be hers to tell. That is the unfortunate flaw in our system I suppose for those of us who just want to know the truth, no matter what it is. sigh.....

I doubt a Judge would grant a subpoena for phone records that do not belong to her client.

 

[CocoChanel]

I doubt a Judge would grant a subpoena for phone records that do not belong to her client.

You may be right, I don't know the law, and don't know how you would go about getting phone records in a wrongful death suit.

 

[deanna82437]

I doubt a Judge would grant a subpoena for phone records that do not belong to her client.

Her client is the family and their daughter, sister, aunt, etc. is dead. The records belong to next of kin at this point. They are her clients.

 

[MyBelle]

You may be right, I don't know the law, and don't know how you would go about getting phone records in a wrongful death suit.

Even if they filed a lawsuit, I doubt the phone records will help them win a case that has already been ruled a suicide and JS wasn't there.

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

Her client is the family and their daughter, sister, aunt, etc. is dead. The records belong to next of kin at this point. They are her clients.

I disagree that phone records are the property of the next of kin. Phone records are the property of the phone company. I'm pretty sure they won't even provide them to LE without a subpoena.

JMO

 

[deanna82437]

I disagree that phone records are the property of the next of kin. Phone records are the property of the phone company. I'm pretty sure they won't even provide them to LE without a subpoena.

JMO

Looks like a good question for the lawyer thread.

 

[Rhyme & Reason]

I'm sure they've looked at JS's phone and contacted his service provider. The message isn't lost, even if it's deleted. There are all kinds of ways to get deleted messages these days, even if the cops claim they don't have it.

Above bbm

Exactly. So why won't they confirm who left the vm? Why won't they just say it's confirmed JS left that vm? Strange.

ETA: Question not directed at you CDS22, I realize you don't know what's in the LEO's heads. I'm just thinking out loud.

 

[MyBelle]

Above bbm

Exactly. So why won't they confirm who left the vm? Why won't they just say it's confirmed JS left that vm? Strange.

I'm not convinced it is a matter of they won't do it; I think it is a matter that they can't confirm with certainty who made the call because the call was erased.

 

[branwynbreeze]

I'm not convinced it is a matter of they won't do it; I think it is a matter that they can't confirm with certainty who made the call because the call was erased.

And that alone isn't a tad odd?

 

[MyBelle]

And that alone isn't a tad odd?

I don't find it odd at all that LE won't publicly confirm something if they were unable to independantly confirm it. While it is entirely possible JS told LE that he left the message, without the message itself there is no way for LE to confirm JS is telling the truth.

 

[Morag]

Above bbm

Exactly. So why won't they confirm who left the vm? Why won't they just say it's confirmed JS left that vm? Strange.

Assuming that there was indeed a midnight visit from a physician to give Max's parents the grim news, then there would likely be several people who would also have been phoned with the news. DS would certainly have called her BF, and her twin sister, and JS would have called AS. So any of those people could have also called and left the vm. If LE is relying on that message for its ironclad finding of suicide, then surely Rebecca's family is entitled to know who left the message.