Recap of the last year. What do we know now?

  • #61
I think you've nailed the whole darn mess here. If we just could be sure which information is the truth and which isn't we'd be much farther... I didn't listen to Levi's last night but did Art say where he got his information about the calls? He has sometimes indicated that he got something from an anonymous LE source but we also know that he talks to the family. There are some family sources that I wouldn't trust wholeheartedly.

However, 90 phonecalls while working is so weird that it is probably true since it fits all the other weirdness to a tee.

Agree to the fullest. Question. if there were 90 calls wouldn't there be more than 2 pings? Does anyone with knowledge of the phone stuff have any idea?

I just finished up the Levi thread, lotsa info for anyone who hasn't taken the time to do so.....please do. : )
 
  • #62
I just happen to check PCSO site to see what update they have on Haleigh and noticed the date and time. Is this old information? I am confused again..:banghead: Would this mean that LE has information that last time she was home was between 8-10PM? I know Misty said the last time she saw Haleigh was around 10PM. Where did the 8PM come from?
"Snip" http://www.putnamsheriff.org/


NAME - Haleigh Ann-Marie Cummings
Crime: Missing Endangered Child
City:Satsuma
Date: 02-09-2009
Time: 03:30:00
Status: Active
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION Haleigh is described as a 5 year old white female. She is approximately 3'0, 39 lbs, blonde hair & brown eyes. Unknown clothing description.

:waitasec:Haleigh was last seen at her residence in the Hermit's Cove area of Putnam County on February 9, 2009 between the hours of 8-10pm.
 
  • #63
I just happen to check PCSO site to see what update they have on Haleigh and noticed the date and time. Is this old information? I am confused again..:banghead: Would this mean that LE has information that last time she was home was between 8-10PM? I know Misty said the last time she saw Haleigh was around 10PM. Where did the 8PM come from?

There is a huge gap between 8-10 in and of itself.
But on the topic of descrepancies, on the police report it states Haleigh is male. I just found it odd.
Back to the actual police report I am going to check but I thought it said she was last seen @ 2am. I will edit if wrong after I go check.

ETA: When it was posted the conversation got way off topic so poof its gone deleted. Can't check it sorry.
 
  • #64
What is known about the locks changed and how many keys there are... TY.
 
  • #65
We know that all can lie, just like it is second nature.
We know that Misty lied on about that night, per several failed polygraphs.
We know per Tommy's admittion that he went to the trailer that night and no one answered the door.
We know that Misty was not cleaning that night and washing the pee blanket, per Ron saying there was no soap.We know that Misty could not have seen the screen door propped open per NG video showing the inside door slams shut.
We know that Ron, Misty, and Tommy are drug dealers.
We know Timmy quickly moved to Mass, and doesn't want to come back per his own admission.
We know that Misty was away on a 3 day binge the weekend before Haleigh went missing.
We know Junior says he saw a man dressed in black with squeaky shoes bouncing on the couch.
We know that Ron claims "dopeboys don't take kids"
We know that 3 Cadaver dogs hit on a dumpster near the trailer.
We know that the dogs tracked a scent to the water and the railroad tracks.
We know that Lindsey's van was scratched up the night Haleigh went missing.
We know that cousin Joe went back to Tenn. the night Haleigh went missing

and what we know we don't know is Ron's work hours.
If Misty was home
Why her phone was turned off.
and who all was really there the night Haleigh went missing.

So what are we missing? What is missing that will tell us what happened to Haleigh?

BBM-Also add that there were dirty clothes in the dryer.
 
  • #66
I didn't hear anyone mention that in the beginning interviews MC referred to Haleigh as "that little girl" which I think should be noted.

In the latest UC drug videos, MC said she had to watch Haleigh on her 17th b-day and it F'd her night up.
 
  • #67
There is a huge gap between 8-10 in and of itself.
But on the topic of discrepancies, on the police report it states Haleigh is male. I just found it odd.
Back to the actual police report I am going to check but I thought it said she was last seen @ 2am. I will edit if wrong after I go check.

ETA: When it was posted the conversation got way off topic so poof its gone deleted. Can't check it sorry.


http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/02/13/putnam.pdf
You are correct the second police report states she is Male and missing on Feb 9th 22:00Hrs. It also says Haleigh was wearing the pink shirt that LE later found, that Misty said she pointed it out to LE. The first report link is now broken for some reason. I am thinking that the police report may of had some typo where the Male is concerned and other info could be false by Misty's accounts?
:waitasec:I wonder why the first report disappeared? I also wonder why LE Blacked Out a certain area that was searched and part of what TN said.
 
  • #68
I didn't hear anyone mention that in the beginning interviews MC referred to Haleigh as "that little girl" which I think should be noted.

In the latest UC drug videos, MC said she had to watch Haleigh on her 17th b-day and it F'd her night up.

In this video at 1:55 Misty said what made me suspicious of her from the first moment I watched it....

" I know I didn't do nothing with....eh to...that little girl. " Watch her eyes. this video is the reason I think she may know who took Haleigh away but She doesn't know what "they" did "with" her. But according to her....She didn't do nothing with her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTl4PUY6o_E
 
  • #69
In this video at 1:55 Misty said what made me suspicious of her from the first moment I watched it....

" I know I didn't do nothing with....eh to...that little girl. " Watch her eyes. this video is the reason I think she may know who took Haleigh away but She doesn't know what "they" did "with" her. But according to her....She didn't do nothing with her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTl4PUY6o_E
Thank you for posting the vid.

My blanket was in the van that they took.... Whoa. , Listening to the tapes repeatedly you hear all kinds of stuff. I wonder who they heck is "they".
 
  • #70
Thank you for posting the vid.

My blanket was in the van that they took.... Whoa. , Listening to the tapes repeatedly you hear all kinds of stuff. I wonder who they heck is "they".

I thought it was the van FDLE took to Jax, but I have always gotten confused as to how many vans there are. iirc, both Chelsea & Lindsey had mini-vans.
 
  • #71
  • #72
I thought it was the van FDLE took to Jax, but I have always gotten confused as to how many vans there are. iirc, both Chelsea & Lindsey had mini-vans.


Well even if LE did take a van would it have been earlier in the day to affect Misty needing to wash a blanket that was hanging on the window?

I would love to know when LE took the van that TiC and Chelsea were borrowing. For some reason I always leaned toward later than earlier, but that is just me.
 
  • #73
Well even if LE did take a van would it have been earlier in the day to affect Misty needing to wash a blanket that was hanging on the window?
I would love to know when LE took the van that TiC and Chelsea were borrowing. For some reason I always leaned toward later than earlier, but that is just me.

No....JMO
 
  • #74
I found this in Emeraldgems posts and thought to drag it here.
 
  • #75
I tried to drag over the GVS interview but can't =(
 
  • #76
We know that the last seen time for Haleigh was 2:00 am not 10:00 when Misty said.

I had forgot about this til I was reading another thread and found this post.

And a neighbor reported hearing shouting voices at 2:00 am coming from Ron's home.

So someone on Tyler Street told LE they had knowledge that HaLeigh was at (in) her own home at 2:00 am. At 2:00 am when the shouting was going on in said home. Do I have that right ?

Who lives on Tyler Street ?
 
  • #77
And a neighbor reported hearing shouting voices at 2:00 am coming from Ron's home.

So someone on Tyler Street told LE they had knowledge that HaLeigh was at (in) her own home at 2:00 am. At 2:00 am when the shouting was going on in said home. Do I have that right ?

Who lives on Tyler Street ?

Hank Sr, Lisa, Tommy and Lindsy lived at 116 Tyler when Haleigh went missing.
 
  • #78
Hank Sr, Lisa, Tommy and Lindsy lived at 116 Tyler when Haleigh went missing.

Thank you :) I thought it was Tommy and Lindsey, but wasn't sure. So then this LE radio conversation indicates that someone in Tommy's household saw HaLeigh in Ron's home at 2 am ?
HaLeigh was put to bed by Misty at 8 pm, and Misty checked on her before she went to bed at 10, but she didn't remember the exact time. I did see that reported on tv at the time. If no one saw her at 2 am, then 8 - 10 pm would be the last time she was seen, because Misty went to sleep at 10.

A neighbor reported that there was shouting voices at 2 am coming from Ron's house. That's twice that 2 am has come up. I wonder what on earth happened there at 2.

On the laundry, Misty said that the blanket got wet after HaLeigh went to bed, cause she tinkled. Misty wanting to wash it, tossed it in the washer. If there was no laundry detergent as Ron said, if it were me there, I would have simply poured a little Dawn Dishwashing Liquid in it. I've actually done that a few times. If there was no dishwashing liquid, and it was me, I would have tossed it into the washing machine and just set it to use hot water, and let it run. (Or warm water if it was a delicate material.) She had to have covers, so it had to be washed.

It was said that dirty laundry was often there on the floor. That would have held the inner door open, if someone wanted a straight shot right out of the back door.
When LE was called, had it been me, I would have thrown those dirty clothes in the dryer, to hide them, because I wouldn't want to look like a messy housekeeper, and I'm in a ton of trouble right now as it is. That may seem like a trivial thing, but I wouldn't want Ron mad at me, so I'd darn sure take a few seconds to clean that up.
Ron's banged up hand was because he hit the wall or a door when he got home because he was upset.
I saw the part where Ron said that dope dealers don't steal your children. And then yesterday I read that he said (and I'm using my words here,) "They don't steal your children. What they do is kill your wife and children, and then when you get home from work, you get to find them there in your house." Maybe he said this to someone else at a different time. I dunno...
It is quite untrue, however, that children aren't abducted over a family member owing drug money. I know of several cases. One occurred a few miles from me when I lived in Dallas. The guy took a little girl out of her home, and she was found deceased in a large field a few miles away, several days later. A beautiful 4 year old. It ripped the heart out of the Dad. I saw him on tv, and felt so bad for him. Especially because it was only over POT, and the amount he owed the dealer was not a lot.
For Misty I am astounded that she would deal in drugs when LE is still looking at all of them over HaLeigh's disappearance. What in the name of God was she thinking ? For a young girl of 18 to be dealing in drugs this many times in one month, again, I am astounded. What in the name of God was she thinking ? Did her and Ron not know that they could be sent to prison for that many years, and that in a conviction, prison is mandatory ? (If I got the mandatory law part correct.) She has only just turned 18. If she were sentenced for all the charges they have against her, and to the fullest extent of the law, she could possibly spend almost her entire life in prison, and die there. Over just buying and selling pills. Why don't they know this ? Or is Misty just so young, that she truely never knew or understood. Personally I do not believe that Misty caused HaLeigh to go missing, and my heart aches for what she may now face in her future.
 
  • #79
Well even if LE did take a van would it have been earlier in the day to affect Misty needing to wash a blanket that was hanging on the window?

I would love to know when LE took the van that TiC and Chelsea were borrowing. For some reason I always leaned toward later than earlier, but that is just me.

Misty's excuse regarding this blanket is that she had to wash Haleigh's "pee blanket" and the blanket on the window because this blanket of Misty's was "in the van that they took".....it was not a post-disappearance reference to this blanket. It was the impetus to washing all the blankets that this blanket was gone.
 

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