Refusal to look for a "dead" Caylee?

[LCoastMom]

For five months? An entire family? I can see the denial stage of grief, the disbelief lasting for days or weeks or even potentially a month or so, but FIVE months? That has got to be some kind of record, and it is a MASS denial by the entire family. Surely at least ONE of them would have come out of it by now if it were in fact TRUE denial. I just don't see it. They know.

I believe Lee has come to terms with what his sister has done, and has accepted the truth about Caylee. That's why we haven't seen him in weeks. I wonder if LE tried enlisting his help in bringing his parents over? I can imagine that wasn't a pretty scene.

Did Lee see KC before she was arrested the last time?

 

[PhoneBoothBandit]

I don't believe they know.

Apart from the evidence presented to them which they refuse to believe, they have no body and no confession from Casey. They also have Casey's lawyer working against the evidence presented... to me, they're just grandparents who can't believe that their grandchild is dead.

Cindy apparently has a history of disbelieving everybody who draws attention to Casey's behaviors, allegedly there was a family falling out due to this. Cindy also has a lot of issues too. As for George? Well as I have said many times, he has battered wife syndrome and appears to walk one step behind Cindy all the time.

I see it akin to cancer patients families who can believe for years that their loved one will miraculously pull through, that they won't die, that they can't die. Cindy and George won't believe Caylee is dead until her body is found, even then I think that they will struggle with it.

 

[PhoneBoothBandit]

I believe Lee has come to terms with what his sister has done, and has accepted the truth about Caylee. That's why we haven't seen him in weeks. I wonder if LE tried enlisting his help in bringing his parents over? I can imagine that wasn't a pretty scene.

Did Lee see KC before she was arrested the last time?

I think Lee knows deep down. Whether he can actually come straight out and say he knows to the family, given the environment and denial they live in? I don't think so. Not at this point. Interestingly, I also don't think he would 'double cross' Casey and admit he knows what has happened, or at least what he thinks has happened. Such an odd family dynamic.

 

[Isabella]

Er, this isn't the place for this, but. . .I believe Madeleine is probably still alive. I don't quite think the 2 cases compare on all levels. In the McCann case there were pedophile links, police abuse links, here there aren't. I believe the Anthony case is one of a kind.

Actually the McCann and Anthony case are very very similar.

Police abuse links? Actually there is no proof anyone was abused at all by any police. Likwise the way the dogs went nuts in that apartment theres no way Madeleine is alive. Another case where the social life was more important than the welfare of any children.

 

[Chilly Willy]

I think Cindy is in complete denial and that George doesn't know how to deal with her. He doesn't want to hurt her so he goes along with her fantasies. I'd hate to be in his place, but then I'd also hate to be in hers. I hope they are both receiving professional help.

 

[Isabella]

There were cadaver dog hits in the trunk of a RENTED car (God knows who rented it before the McCanns). I believe there were hits in the apartment for blood (I think that blood was from someone else), and I think there were hits on Kate's clothing and/or cuddle cat. However, it didn't seem to be as cut and dried as this one is. There was no decomp that I recall, no traceable lies or non-existent jobs and nannies. Also, the crime scene was badly compromised, but all and sundry, including residents of the town.

I don't believe the two cases can really be compared. But, that's only my opinion.

You said God knows who rented the car before the McCanns - er did anyone else who rented that car have a child go missing?

And as for no traceable lies...sorry but the whole bunch lied consistently. Yes there were hits on Cuddle cat and Kates clothing and i think also the car keys. There was meant to be rotting food in the McCanns car also to blame the stains. Yes there were hits in the apartment including on a cupboard where some of Kates clothes were. As for the crime scene being compromised that would be by the all and sundry that Kate and Gerry let into the apartment before bothering to call the police. Im sorry but that was only down to the parents and no one else.

And to anyone else im sorry that this post is offtopic but IMO there are many similarities between this case and I do think the McCann case gave Casey and her family ideas.

 

[Isabella]

The McCanns have also travelled a lot, searching for Madeline. They didn't tell everyone else to, while sitting on their butts.

Actually the McCanns gave many interviews yes. They didnt however do any searching. Kate McCann admits this herself. And in fact she has blamed people for not looking more for Madeleine while she herself hasnt bothered to do so.

 

[Nore]

I've been struggling to remember if any other families of missing children refuse to look or search for remains of a child.
What I remember is this desperate attempt to find "ANY" evidence of what may have happened. It is extremely odd that they would not even consider the possibility or want resolution either way. This is very telling to me.
Can anyone else find or remember another case where the families were so unwilling to look for a child dead or alive?

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No I cannot remember a single case.Living near a big city there have been many missing children for which people have searched everywhere and anywhere.One of the saddest was two little boys who locked themselves in Grams trunk and died.

 

[Sammiejam]

If one of my babies (all my kids and future grandkids are babies to me- even when they are 30 ) had been kidnapped and missing for 5 months, I would assume the kidnappers had done the worst. Why would kidnappers hold a child for 5 months? No ransom, no demands, not even a wiff of communication? WHAT THE HELL FOR?

Is the theory that the kidnappers want to raise Caylee as their own? As soon as it hit the headlines any kidnapper worth its salt would either release her or do away with her. They would not be taking Caylee to McDonalds or to the mall...

The A's obviously do not understand how totally UNBELIEVABLE they sound with their refusal to admit that Caylee is most likely not alive. If they said that they thought that yes, Caylee is probibly dead but at the hands of kidnappers, not KC - then at least they would be half-way believable. But there total denial, especially after GA's interview tapes, make them look ridiculous.

IMHO anyway.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Again, I ask if they believe she is alive due to denial or whatever you choose to call it...why are they not concerned with what is happening to her right this minute?! Where is the sense of urgency here?

Where is the heartfelt begging that this child won't be harmed by the people who may have her? Don't they realize that if Caylee is alive and being passed off from one person to another that she is in worse danger than ever? Don't they understand if they are correct that she could be dead at any moment because they have run out of places to hide Caylee?

Where are the tears for Caylee and the overwhelming sorrow that she is simply not with them right now? Where are the loving grandparents who should be on their hands and knees in front of cameras begging for any signs of life here?

Even in denial you would still find these things if they really believed she was alive. Are you now going to tell me that not only do they feel she is alive, but she is living in this perfect world with people who love her, are feeding her, bathing her, clothing her, and caring for her as much as they do?! What?! Do they think she went to live with a group of nuns who travel around the country while giving her this unconditional love and support?!

 

[deerpack2003]

What I find equally as distrubing are individuals who become so tied to these cases that they themselves feel victimized. I still hold to the belief of stepping away every now and again to realize where you are. I also think it helps to clear your mind of the case and start fresh. How you perceive something today can change how you perceive it the next.

 

[Sammiejam]

Again, I ask if they believe she is alive due to denial or whatever you choose to call it...why are they not concerned with what is happening to her right this minute?! Where is the sense of urgency here?

Where is the heartfelt begging that this child won't be harmed by the people who may have her? Don't they realize that if Caylee is alive and being passed off from one person to another that she is in worse danger than ever? Don't they understand if they are correct that she could be dead at any moment because they have run out of places to hide Caylee?

Where are the tears for Caylee and the overwhelming sorrow that she is simply not with them right now? Where are the loving grandparents who should be on their hands and knees in front of cameras begging for any signs of life here?

Even in denial you would still find these things if they really believed she was alive. Are you now going to tell me that not only do they feel she is alive, but she is living in this perfect world with people who love her, are feeding her, bathing her, clothing her, and caring for her as much as they do?! What?! Do they think she went to live with a group of nuns who travel around the country while giving her this unconditional love and support?!

ITA. And after 5 months of this I would be a stark raving LOON and lying in front of the police station begging, pleading, screaming, ripping out chunks of hair and shrieking for someone, anyone to HELP MY BABY. I would have to be sedated and probably in a psyciatric care facility. Not holding "meet and greets" with a group of schonky charlatons who pretend to find children order to scam money from the public.

They are not in denial... they are... i dont know what they are except SICK.

 

[Nore]

What I find so REPULSIVE is not that the Anthonys (say they) still believe Caylee is alive & want to look for a "live Caylee"

What's appalling & revolting is how ANGRY & ABUSIVE they become towards anyone who is looking for a deceased Caylee.

It's one thing to HOPE someone is still alive... it's sick to be UNGRATEFUL & COMBATIVE with people who are trying to help you.


And to think of how many people who have been directly & indirectly hurt because of this family's misguided need to protect Casey at all costs.

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Amen!!

 

[anastacia129]

CA only wants to appear to search for an alive Caylee because she is a vile woman and only cares about the money. MOney pays for her bills so she doesn't have to work. Money pays for celebrity experts who will be severely discredited in court. Money pays for their good friend at KFNs mansion. Money, money, money. Have you seen the pathetic smiling pics of her at the meet n greet bs today? Ive never seen anyone so happy to be at an event for people with missing children. she wants $ to continue the search. What search Cindy? Is Caylee at GMA or NG? How about Blanchard park? Why do you need hard working people's money to NOT SEARCH??

 

[Nore]

This is why I KNOW they are lying. If my own child or grandchild were missing and presumed kidnapped, every time my face was in front of a camera I would be pleading and begging with the kidnappers not to hurt my baby and that we were willing to do whatever they wanted to get her back safely. I would do this from day one and without ceasing until my baby was found. The Anthony family have not made ONE, again, not ONE single plea for Caylee's safe return. They have not addressed the "kidnappers" one time as far as I can recall. They KNOW that she is not kidnapped. They KNOW that she is DEAD. They KNOW Casey did it. And they KNOW that they are covering up for what Casey has done to try to save HER and to hell with Caylee. It seems that they are thinking like this, well it's too late for Caylee, she is already dead and there is nothing that we can do to help her anymore, so we must concentrate all of our energies on helping Casey-the murdering witch that took her own baby's life and then either threw her in to the alligators or threw her in the trash. Yes Anthony family, by all means, let's preserve the life of someone of that caliber that they could DO that to their own flesh and blood! NOT!!!:furious::furious:

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Yes!!!!
lets hope the A's plan to keep her home,wouldn't want her near me or mine. Anyone remember Maudes favorite saying God'll get you for that! So true.IMO

 

[Cara's Mom]

What I find so REPULSIVE is not that the Anthonys (say they) still believe Caylee is alive & want to look for a "live Caylee"

What's appalling & revolting is how ANGRY & ABUSIVE they become towards anyone who is looking for a deceased Caylee.

It's one thing to HOPE someone is still alive... it's sick to be UNGRATEFUL & COMBATIVE with people who are trying to help you.


And to think of how many people who have been directly & indirectly hurt because of this family's misguided need to protect Casey at all costs.

ITA...its the A's behavior towards others that really sticks in my craw. Even if I held out hope that my child were alive, I would be thankful, grateful and kind to whomever took time out of their own lives to help my family.

 

[manatee]

ITA...its the A's behavior towards others that really sticks in my craw. Even if I held out hope that my child were alive, I would be thankful, grateful and kind to whomever took time out of their own lives to help my family.

great point! It is not that they should not hope that Caylee is alive, it is the anger against those that search for one that may be deceased...very odd indeed!

 

[Cara's Mom]

This is why I KNOW they are lying. If my own child or grandchild were missing and presumed kidnapped, every time my face was in front of a camera I would be pleading and begging with the kidnappers not to hurt my baby and that we were willing to do whatever they wanted to get her back safely. I would do this from day one and without ceasing until my baby was found. The Anthony family have not made ONE, again, not ONE single plea for Caylee's safe return. They have not addressed the "kidnappers" one time as far as I can recall. They KNOW that she is not kidnapped. They KNOW that she is DEAD. They KNOW Casey did it. And they KNOW that they are covering up for what Casey has done to try to save HER and to hell with Caylee. It seems that they are thinking like this, well it's too late for Caylee, she is already dead and there is nothing that we can do to help her anymore, so we must concentrate all of our energies on helping Casey-the murdering witch that took her own baby's life and then either threw her in to the alligators or threw her in the trash. Yes Anthony family, by all means, let's preserve the life of someone of that caliber that they could DO that to their own flesh and blood! NOT!!!:furious::furious:

OOh, yeah, you're right; I'd be freaking out on tv, begging for the kidnappers to give me my child-you don't see any of that with the A's. You WS'ers are a bunch of smart cookies, I'm glad I'm hanging out here!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

What I find equally as distrubing are individuals who become so tied to these cases that they themselves feel victimized. I still hold to the belief of stepping away every now and again to realize where you are. I also think it helps to clear your mind of the case and start fresh. How you perceive something today can change how you perceive it the next.

While I have been tied to this case along with the rest of the people on this forum, I haven't changed my perception of what has really happened to Caylee no matter how much I clear my mind, start fresh, and try to pretend that this family does not insult my intelligence daily. I realize exactly where I am and know I am doing fine in my current location. I don't feel like a victim, but I do feel like people are being victimized by the A family and by Casey.

 

[Cara's Mom]

It is just so obvious that they do NOT want Caylee found. They interfere and intervene each time that they feel there is the remote possibilty that someone MAY locate her. You have to ask yourself WHY do they do this? The answer can only be that they KNOW she is dead, do not want her found and want to try to save the empty shell of a human that they call their daughter. Why save her? So she can have more grandchildren for them and potentially kill again? What is the point of saving one who would do this to their own? If she would kill her own child, who would she NOT kill? The answer to that question is chilling to say the least. Maybe Caylee is not her only victim. How do we know?

ITA...my parents would totally turn me in if I did that (which I'd NEVER do, btw).