Remains found in Big Spring #2 - Strong Speculation this may be Hailey

[Knox]

Unfortunately DNA on a deceased person gets tricky when the suspects lived with them. DNA would be expected to be there type of thing. Not to gross anyone out, but just the fact they share a toilet and a shower....

The clothing, if any were on the remains, will be very telling. We know what SA said she was wearing when he last saw her. But LE knows what she was wearing the night she was playing the X-Box after DD left.

 

[Lil Quirky]

Or maybe the other earring, wasn't it red?

Ah ha! Yep! I think that's it.

 

[Knox]

For some reason I thought both were found by brother????

One was found at Clint's house, the mate was never found. IMO, this was BD's way to cast suspicion Clint's way. She is the one who brought up the red earrings in the first place.

 

[Lonestar9918]

You guys ever think it could be someone else that lived in SAs mothers house? Her husband maybe? This "Steve the boat owner" person? What about some of the other ppl SA says had access to his moms pc? Im just saying, there are a number of ppl we know nothing about that also live very close. Ive had a feeling for a while SA has info he WANTS to share but cant. Like when he wouldnt name the ppl he could imagine being responsible for the child on his moms computer. He only said it wasnt him, his mom or brother. But that there were others he wouldnt rule out but wouldnt name.

 

[Soulmagent]

Here's my thinking tonight after today's events. We know she was partially mummified and that one of the guys that found her saw a "hand". After reading a little bit about mummification - I saw that with mummification, fingernails could stay in tact. Ok, hhmmmm......so we have a hand with fingernails. That's huge. Why? Because, both SA and BD's dna will (and could) be all over everything and its justifiable because they all three lived in the same house - so any one of their dna on the other could be explained - BUT!!!!!

If either SA's or BD's dna is found under her fingernails - well that's a whole 'nother kettle of beans. Exp. - my DD, DH and I all live in the same house and our dna would be all over everything - however, my or DH's dna would not be found under DD's fingernails and vice versa.

This waiting is going to be tough - but IMHO I believe it will be well worth it and may also explain why SA lawyered up - he knows.......


JMHO

The mummification thing is bugging me. Hailey went missing in dec and I even think it snowed in feb there didnt it? I know the area is dry ,but I would still find it odd that if it is Hailey her body would be in that condition. Laying out in the open. I heard lime will drawn out the fluids and dry out the body so maybe that had something to do with the location. I thought it took a dryer type of heat then texas in december. FWIW

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

I think the ONLY way either of them will admit to anything is if one of them gets a deal to rat out the other one. imo

I hope both of them keep in mind that Texas is a Death Penalty State and is not afraid to use it!

 

[katydid23]

You guys ever think it could be someone else that lived in SAs mothers house? Her husband maybe? This "Steve the boat owner" person? What about some of the other ppl SA says had access to his moms pc? Im just saying, there are a number of ppl we know nothing about that also live very close. Ive had a feeling for a while SA has info he WANTS to share but cant. Like when he wouldnt name the ppl he could imagine being responsible for the child on his moms computer. He only said it wasnt him, his mom or brother. But that there were others he wouldnt rule out but wouldnt name.

I have often wondered about one of his male cousins. But when all of the focus was on him and speculation was that he was the only suspect, wouldn't he have told LE to look at his stepdad or someone if they were the perps?

Would he sacrifice his life and reputation to save his stepdad or cousin? maybe, IDK.

 

[Ricki]

You guys ever think it could be someone else that lived in SAs mothers house? Her husband maybe? This "Steve the boat owner" person? What about some of the other ppl SA says had access to his moms pc? Im just saying, there are a number of ppl we know nothing about that also live very close. Ive had a feeling for a while SA has info he WANTS to share but cant. Like when he wouldnt name the ppl he could imagine being responsible for the child on his moms computer. He only said it wasnt him, his mom or brother. But that there were others he wouldnt rule out but wouldnt name.

Well, an open mind is good. We want to make sure whom ever was responsible for the dirty deed is caught and locked up. I hope all people who are under the radar are brought in for questioning.

 

[katydid23]

The mummification thing is bugging me. Hailey went missing in dec and I even think it snowed in feb there didnt it? I know the area is dry ,but I would still find it odd that if it is Hailey her body would be in that condition. Laying out in the open. I heard lime will drawn out the fluids and dry out the body so maybe that had something to do with the location. I thought it took a dryer type of heat then texas in december. FWIW

I don't think it was laying out in the open. From what I understand, she was buried in a shallow grave and wrapped in plastic garbage bag. But recent storms and 9 inches of rain may have unearthed it enough to be noticed by a worker.

 

[concernedmother]

SA cell pinged in that area where the body was found according to NG show tonight.

 

[chefmom]

Only if there is alot of flesh involved. We pick up alot of wicked stuff under our nails we never think about. I used to do nails and it was gross. My understanding is really the only foriegn DNA that can't be explained away is oral, vaginal and anal.

Wow! You may have just broke me from a life long habit of nail biting! :yuck:

 

[Knox]

Curious what you all think. IF this is Hailey ...

Did SA do this alone, or is BD complicit?

 

[Ricki]

Good night all. Hopefully we will get more information tomorrow.

 

[concernedmother]

I think BD has an involvement in this too.jmo

 

[For The Kids]

Curious what you all think. IF this is Hailey ...

Did SA do this alone, or is BD complicit?

Complicit..if she isnt responsible..

 

[SmoothOperator]

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/jan/03/no-headline---missing_girl_folo/?partner=yahoo_feeds

Billie Dunn said her boyfriend, Shawn Adkins, was the last person to see Hailey, who reportedly was last seen at 3:15 p.m. Dec. 27.
Adkins, who lives with Billie Dunn, Hailey, and Billie’s 16-year-old son, reportedly said Hailey told him she was going to stop by her father’s house, which is in walking distance of their home, and then was planning to spend the night with a friend.


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Billie Dunn said she and her daughter had the usual parent-teen arguments, but the last time she had seen her daughter, she was in good spirits.

“I don’t know what to think,” she said. “I hope she’s just scared to come home.”

Adkins, her boyfriend, said he didn’t believe Hailey had run away.

“I feel like it’s an abduction,” he said, adding that a number of sex offenders live in the community.

“I just hope someone out there has heard something or seen her. We just want her to come home. We want this nightmare to end,” Adkins said.


So right from the start Shawn was pushing the abduction by an RSO angle. I wonder why he didn't just want it to be considered a runaway? You would think that would help him. Unless she was found wrapped in a garbage bag I suppose...

Moo of course but I have a feeling that Shawn fully expected for Hailey's remains to be found A WHOLE LOT SOONER THAN 15MONTHS LATER.. IMO he expected for them to be located fairly soon and he needed the focus to have been put onto sexual predator due to the fact he knewher body would definitely show sexual abuse. .IMO there's so much here that's about to all start falling in place and IMO so very much of it won't be what was expected.. jmo

 

[Lonestar9918]

I gotta tell ya, nothing about BD tells me she had anything to do with it. I live out here in west tx and feel like i can read ppl pretty well. I think she is just a <mod snip>.

 

[Soulmagent]

SA cell pinged in that area where the body was found according to NG show tonight.

He said he was at his moms.
NG is on top of it ist she?

The red earring NS said herself that Hailey ,while at NS house and asked her to put them up. It was said on a blog talk show. Billie may have been the first to bring up the earrings,but Ns put them in her hands last and she was very clear that David did find one on the floor when they were moving. So if the earing was found.

If there is an earring on the body and it turns out it is Hailey ,the earring thing will be very important. I expect there to be new search warrent issued for shovels and gas cans and carpet fibers.

 

[mikeysmommom]

IMO it's BD that has the plans....he follows (coward)
has to have older women (no offense) to take care of him,
masks to hide behind to FEEL macho.
I'd love more psych on these 2, why they stay together etc.

No way in H3ll would I be able to live under the same roof no less sleep with a man who was the ONLY POI in God forbid my daughter being missing! I can live to be a hundred and never will I ever understand how she could be with him. I probably would be in a jail cell for shooting him if this was my DD.

 

[gngr~snap]

The mummification thing is bugging me. Hailey went missing in dec and I even think it snowed in feb there didnt it? I know the area is dry ,but I would still find it odd that if it is Hailey her body would be in that condition. Laying out in the open. I heard lime will drawn out the fluids and dry out the body so maybe that had something to do with the location. I thought it took a dryer type of heat then texas in december. FWIW

Bodies can mummify inside homes.
Here is a story about a woman last seen around
Christmas and not found until March. So less than 4 months?

I guess it doesn't ever rain inside though! lol

http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/news/local/south_central/body-discovered-in-greenwood-home