Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 11/21-11/23/14 In recess

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  • #601
Jodi said Travis was viewing child 🤬🤬🤬🤬, other types of 🤬🤬🤬🤬 have no bearing because she didn't mention it. She only mentioned child 🤬🤬🤬🤬. So of these manually accessed 🤬🤬🤬🤬, were any of them related to child 🤬🤬🤬🤬? If not then any errors the state may have made don't matter.

Jodi also said there dozens of pics of women's 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 on this computer. Were any such pics ever found or recovered? If not then none of the testimony elicited were done to make Jodi look like a liar. She's just a liar. No child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 and no pics, Jodi's story is not intact right now, even with what's come out.

So far, no evidence what so ever the state has done anything untoward. Just possible mishandling of evidence on June 10th that also had no effect on Jodi's case or story because no changes were made to any 🤬🤬🤬🤬 just downloads and updates. And all they have of the July 19th 2009 incident are insinuations. And a very suspect version of events from Maria Schaffer, if I'm honest.

I don't think JM even knew the term 'selfie' at that point, he's not the most social media aware person on earth (although probably moreso now than then lol).
 
  • #602
Also to add re bent pins: They can be straightened-out as well by carefully aligning the drive to the connector, pin by pin, from one end to the other. I've done this numerous times.

Pins can get out of alignment when removing a HDD for duplicating outside of a computer or when hooking to a ribbon cable from an external kit. A broken pin is another matter.

JW is making a mountain out of anthill with that pix, imo.
 
  • #603
I don't think JM even knew the term 'selfie' at that point, he's not the most social media aware person on earth (although probably moreso now than then lol).

The term selfie is a pretty new one and was not so widely used in 2009. I just don't believe Juan said that. I think Schaffer did and she probably said something more along the lines of, "wow, he sure liked to take a lot of pictures of himself!"
 
  • #604
Hi all. I'm at the dentist. Can you tell me who is Brian Neumeister? Is he expert for defense or prosecution and does he work for Encase? Sorry for just logging on. Thanks.

DT computer expert who claims he found 🤬🤬🤬🤬 on TA's computer. He further states someone turned on computer, manipulated things, turned off computer - causing some malware programs to be deleted along with proof of previous visits to multiple 🤬🤬🤬🤬 sites. And he furthers someone updated TA's itunes by performing some physical action (ie: press yes or enter password).
 
  • #605
Shouldn't this whole appeal OR motion be an appeal on her "conviction" that is to be taken up AFTER sentencing?

She is already convicted. Why isnt the judge declaring this invalid for this phase?

Any appeals or motions related to her original verdict of "guilty" need to be taken up in "appeals court"?

I dont understand why this is even allowed during sentencing phase.
 
  • #606
Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 8s8 seconds ago
Tony Novitsky, Juan Martinez' boss is sitting at the prosecutor table.

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 45s45 seconds ago
One program that gets rid of history: "It's only use is to erase your tracks." Neumeister #JodiArias

BBM

Ugh, I hate reading MK tweets.

Neumeister acts like Travis did something sinister or abnormal. A lot of computer owners have programs that get rid of their history file and there isn't anything sinister about it.

IMO
 
  • #607
Okay, trying to sort this thing out. Did, perhaps, Chris Hughes go to Travis' house and turn on the computer before the police removed it? Remember him getting the password/s from the webmaster? We thought he accessed social media and emails remotely, but maybe not.
 
  • #608
The term selfie is a pretty new one and was not so widely used in 2009. I just don't believe Juan said that. I think Schaffer did and she probably said something more along the lines of, "wow, he sure liked to take a lot of pictures of himself!"

fwiw, (can't believe I googled this)....."selfie", according to Wikipedia, " By the end of 2012, Time magazine considered selfie one of the "top 10 buzzwords" of that year; although selfies had existed long before, it was in 2012 that the term "really hit the big time""
 
  • #609
The term selfie is a pretty new one and was not so widely used in 2009. I just don't believe Juan said that. I think Schaffer did and she probably said something more along the lines of, "wow, he sure liked to take a lot of pictures of himself!"

She kind of revealed herself with that accusation, didn't she?
 
  • #610
She kind of revealed herself with that accusation, didn't she?

Absolutely! Just doesn't even sound like Juan! Even when she first said it on direct I thought that.
 
  • #611
DT computer expert who claims he found 🤬🤬🤬🤬 on TA's computer. He further states someone turned on computer, manipulated things, turned off computer - causing some malware programs to be deleted along with proof of previous visits to multiple 🤬🤬🤬🤬 sites. And he furthers someone updated TA's itunes by performing some physical action (ie: press yes or enter password).

Well, this was the guy that could see the murderer in a "reflection" in eye balls from a photo....what more will he pull out of.... bleep bleep.
 
  • #612
I think Neumeister is trying to insinuate that since Travis had a number of antivirus/antimalware apps on his computer, Travis was therefore trying to "erase his tracks." That's why Neumeister conveniently uses the word SCRUBBERS to describe them.

And who cares if Travis watched 🤬🤬🤬🤬 every day and covered his tracks?

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 20s21 seconds ago
Neumeister: "There were also escort sites that I pulled up."

Cathy ‏@courtchatter 14s14 seconds ago
Here's my question:Why didn't def expert Lonnie Dworkin find any of this during the trial?That was HIS job per JA claim of virus. #JodiArias

Exactly. If BNeu can find this stuff now, even after the 2009 "incident," then Lonnie could have found it looking at the 2008 mirror drive, and that means that the "child 🤬🤬🤬🤬" IF ANY BECAUSE I SURE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY EVIDENCE OF IT YET was disclosed to the defense long ago. The evidence available to the prosecution and the defense was the same: the 2008 mirror drive.

If the 2008 "incident" was when the computer was being picked up, before the mirror drive was created, then maybe the evidence techs should be trained not to turn OFF a computer that's already on (in "sleep mode") when they pick it up, but there sure as heck isn't any evidence that this was "misconduct" or that something helpful to Jodi was deleted that way.

AZL-

What does this amount to, so far? Does the state have a serious problem on their hands?

Not thus far.
 
  • #613
now I really feel like no defense attorney should be trusted. I hope I never need one.
 
  • #614
The term selfie is a pretty new one and was not so widely used in 2009. I just don't believe Juan said that. I think Schaffer did and she probably said something more along the lines of, "wow, he sure liked to take a lot of pictures of himself!"

Agreed, and also, if the reason she wanted to look inside the computer was to gauge file sizes for expert analyst costs, how could that be accomplished by only JM using the keyboard? It all falls apart when you take a critical look at it, as with most of what the defense has tried over the course of this trial.
 
  • #615
I keep thinking that Schaffer's testimony really did not help her. JM had no reason to check out the evidence items for himself, he responded to her request. She said she never asked anyone to turn on the computers, but states she always has to know how much data/evidence there is before she can ask for an funding for an expert to be on the case. If she felt that JM and Det. Flores did something so egregious so as to compromise the evidence of her client's case - why not go running to a judge right then? If she "always" has to know how much information they have before they can ask for funding - therein lies her motive to turn on the computer. IMO
 
  • #616
Shouldn't this whole appeal OR motion be an appeal on her "conviction" that is to be taken up AFTER sentencing?

She is already convicted. Why isnt the judge declaring this invalid for this phase?

Any appeals or motions related to her original verdict of "guilty" need to be taken up in "appeals court"?

I dont understand why this is even allowed during sentencing phase.

He's apparently trying out appeal avenues and for some strange reason this judge is allowing it. ;)
 
  • #617
I think I'm obsessed with this trial. It's my birthday today (I'm 31!) and my friends want to take me out. My response? 'Thanks but can we do dinner rather than lunch? I've got *work* to do right now.' I hope reading these tweets count as 'work.' It sure is more exhausting than paid work!
 
  • #618
Absolutely! Just doesn't even sound like Juan! Even when she first said it on direct I thought that.

Her entire description of the viewing event recited on Direct sounded ludicrous to me. I was picturing the scene as she went along and it did not fit JM's characteristic behavior in the least.
 
  • #619
I love your dry humour, T-4-2. Are you a Brit?

Lol, no. Just a plain old, affected California girl who grew up with Beyond the Fringe, Monty Python, Fry and Laurie, Blackadder (and more recently Black Books), Amis (père et fils), Shaw, Wilde, Wodehouse, Jacques Tati (oh wait, he's French)... all the usual suspects.

Totally OT, but I just love this so much (and yes I know he's Irish, but still...):

https://www.google.com/search?q=bla...7.8257j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=119&ie=UTF-8
 
  • #620
I think I'm obsessed with this trial. It's my birthday today (I'm 31!) and my friends want to take me out. My response? 'Thanks but can we do dinner rather than lunch? I've got *work* to do right now.' I hope reading these tweets count as 'work.' It sure is more exhausting than paid work!

Happy Birthday Rose!!!
 
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