Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 12/05-08 In recess

[Zuri]

It seems as though there have been more days off from trial than days of actual testimony. I am concerned that the jurors will lose interest and not remember things as this trial becomes more and more protracted. The ebb and flow of this trial is very frustrating IMO. I truly wish the DP would come off the table and this trial would just end, with CMJA being sent to Perryvilly post haste.

When is enough enough? I just don't see the DT interested in keeping this trial on schedule. Don't they have other cases to try? If CMJA has no mitigation witnesses, so be it. Too bad for her. I feel very badly for the Alexander Family as they are pawns in this process. I just don't understand why on earth this is so prolonged. JMV

 

[Hatfield]

JSS has already ruled that they can't be admitted since there is no hard copy of them, they were anonymously e-mailed to Nurmi and without the original pages they can't be examined for forgery, etc., I believe that was the basis for her ruling, and I don't see how Nurmi can overcome that. Unless the originals surface, but then the person holding them would have a lot of questions to answer. lol

If the letters were originally sent by email, then Jodi already admitted to the investigator that she had Travis passwords. That right there should prove that she could have sent the letters herself so they should be inadmissable due to no proof of who authored the letters.

But it wont surprise me if somehow they get accepted this time around. Too much is being allowed already. Grrrrrr

 

[Nali87]

In the guilt phase, when we could actually see what was happening, I saw JM make good objections and the judge granted them. In this phase, with "trial by tweet," most of the time we don't know the nature of the objection or the ruling. In the few cases when people have reported the ruling, it seems that JM's objections are often granted. But if he were indeed objecting for "no context" or "no basis" (which I think is unlikely), that would have to be denied because those aren't valid objections. Also, most evidentiary objections will be denied during the penalty phase just because the rules of evidence don't really apply during this phase. The defense in particular has a constitutional right to produce "inadmissible" evidence during the penalty phase if it has minimal "indicia of reliability."

:sigh::sigh:
These new rules drive me nuts. I guess the good thing is that they might turn out to be helpful for JM during rebuttal.

 

[Nosey Parker]

Respectfully Snipped/RBBM: That is what I think she testified to in that secret testimony ...

CMJA has NO mitigating factors, so she is starting with Page 1 of defense attorney JB's Opening Statement in the CA trial ...

Hey, it worked for CA so maybe it will work for her ... what does she have to lose not to try it at this point ?

Oh, and I think CMJA's parents have been "put on notice" -- just like George and Cindy were put on notice when JB dropped that bombshell in his opening.

:gaah: . . . :moo:

Totally agree, except I think she's chucking Carl under the bus, and blaming him for her having to leave home at 15, and every action thereafter. After all, he has not been supportive of her, at least not publicly, so that makes him a 'hater'.

 

[rose222]

I just read the three page letter that Arias wrote to her fans. I don't normally like to give her any attention but this letter is ridiculous enough to border on comical. It's basically a rant against JW (Occupy HLN) and LS. She accuses them of having hidden agendas and implores her fans to support her on some new website. I did chuckle because these fools are fighting amongst themselves. And the thought of her sitting in a concrete jail furiously writing tirades against her own supporters is amusing. She will eventually turn against each and every one of her 'friends' and 'fans'. She won't do well in general population!

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Amazing, isn't it, how this trial has taken on the persona of the murderer, with its filth, vindictiveness and chaos. I suppose evil does that - engulfs everything it touches in malignant 'slime'. Strange that the very thing that is allowing this travisty is the justice system itself. I so want to set it aside, forget it exists, but I can't. Travis, his family and friends, and the State of Arizona, deserve justice, and I want to see it done.

The only way I can accomplish that, I think, is to treat the whole thing as some melodramatic TV serial, Brit style, checking in each day for the latest episode, and to mull over the latest cliff-hanger.

I refuse to allow Arias any more of my mental commitment than that. May she rot in hell.

RBBM:

:seeya: LOL !

IF I did not know any better, I would think I was watching a scripted reality tv show -- NOT the Sentencing Phase for a murderess convicted of 1st degree, pre-meditated murder !

This entire re-trial is a joke !

:moo:

 

[Hatfield]

In the guilt phase, when we could actually see what was happening, I saw JM make good objections and the judge granted them. In this phase, with "trial by tweet," most of the time we don't know the nature of the objection or the ruling. In the few cases when people have reported the ruling, it seems that JM's objections are often granted. But if he were indeed objecting for "no context" or "no basis" (which I think is unlikely), that would have to be denied because those aren't valid objections. Also, most evidentiary objections will be denied during the penalty phase just because the rules of evidence don't really apply during this phase. The defense in particular has a constitutional right to produce "inadmissible" evidence during the penalty phase if it has minimal "indicia of reliability."

Thanks AZ. You are right that the tweeters dont do a very good job with following up with any of the objections. They mainly say that an objection happened and then we never know the result hardly. I cant recall the specific reason Juan has used in his objection but I think I recall it was something about "no basis" or "no prior establishment of topic" or something to that effect. I wish I could recall the exact term he used in the ones I saw where I was cheering him on.

Good point too about penalty phase inadmissability. Since rules are laxed, there is more leeway.

Just wish the DT witnesses would stay focused on relevancy. It seems they are able to bring up anything under the sun even if the guilt phase never talked about the things they are bringing up now. That was the type of thing Juan was objecting to when I saw the tweets.

 

[daisydomino]

I just read the three page letter that Arias wrote to her fans. I don't normally like to give her any attention but this letter is ridiculous enough to border on comical. It's basically a rant against JW (Occupy HLN) and LS. She accuses them of having hidden agendas and implores her fans to support her on some new website. I did chuckle because these fools are fighting amongst themselves. And the thought of her sitting in a concrete jail furiously writing tirades against her own supporters is amusing. She will eventually turn against each and every one of her 'friends' and 'fans'. She won't do well in general population!

Thank you rose222 for your brave adventure and for reporting back. I nailed it!

 

[Val1]

This entire defense strategy of slandering Travis, unfairly and obviously imo, so plainly contradicts her claim of remorse that I don't see how the defense expects that contradiction to count in her favor with the jury.

I don't think they're even concerned with the jury at this point as they foresee the jury not lasting to the end. What JA and her "team" are mostly focused on at this point, are trying to score points for their future appeals and in JA's mind, the overturning of her conviction so she can walk free.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

It seems as though there have been more days off from trial than days of actual testimony.

I am concerned that the jurors will lose interest and not remember things as this trial becomes more and more protracted. The ebb and flow of this trial is very frustrating IMO. I truly wish the DP would come off the table and this trial would just end, with CMJA being sent to Perryvilly post haste.

When is enough enough? I just don't see the DT interested in keeping this trial on schedule. Don't they have other cases to try? If CMJA has no mitigation witnesses, so be it. Too bad for her. I feel very badly for the Alexander Family as they are pawns in this process. I just don't understand why on earth this is so prolonged. JMV

:seeya:

BBM: I will have the list of Court and NO Court Days updated shortly ...

Be back in a few !

 

[gcharlie]

:seeya:

BBM: I will have the list of Court and NO Court Days updated shortly ...

Be back in a few !

I did a graphic this morning showing the days of testimony only, if anyone wants me to post this. I did not include days when the jury was not in court for hearings.

 

[krkrjx]

It seems as though there have been more days off from trial than days of actual testimony. I am concerned that the jurors will lose interest and not remember things as this trial becomes more and more protracted. The ebb and flow of this trial is very frustrating IMO. I truly wish the DP would come off the table and this trial would just end, with CMJA being sent to Perryvilly post haste.

When is enough enough? I just don't see the DT interested in keeping this trial on schedule. Don't they have other cases to try? If CMJA has no mitigation witnesses, so be it. Too bad for her. I feel very badly for the Alexander Family as they are pawns in this process. I just don't understand why on earth this is so prolonged. JMV

Amen!

 

[NashBridges2]

:seeya:

BBM: I will have the list of Court and NO Court Days updated shortly ...

Be back in a few !

Have I told you lately how much I love you for keeping track.

 

[NashBridges2]

If we all feel like this, imagine how the Alexander family must feel. I can't even imagine.

I'm at the point where I'm ready for a mistrial, just so the judge can sentence her and off she goes to prison. I'm sick of the control she has, I'm sick of the way she's the queen of social media, I'm sick of her slandering a poor man she brutally murdered 3 times over. IM JUST SO BLOODY SICK OF HER.

 

[mydirtysecret]

I don't think they're even concerned with the jury at this point as they foresee the jury not lasting to the end. What JA and her "team" are mostly focused on at this point, are trying to score points for their future appeals and in JA's mind, the overturning of her conviction so she can walk free.

ITA! If anything, this just goes to show exactly what the DT is trying ti accomplish. It's not putting on mitigation or even anything remotely resembling that. I only wish JSS would realize they are turning it into a mini appeals which is not even remotely appropriate to be in front of her. She should put her gavel down force the DT to get on with THIS phase, and tell them to kick rocks on any issues that should be sent to the court of appeals. No mitigation? Fine, we'll move on with the state's rebuttal case and closings.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

LIST OF COURT DAYS and NO COURT DAYS through Today, 12/9/14:


COURT DAYS:
[includes Hearing Days]

Day 1: Tuesday - October 21, 2014

Day 2: Wednesday - October 22, 2014

Day 3: Thursday - October 23, 2014

Day 4: Monday - October 27, 2014

Day 5: Tuesday - October 28, 2014

Day 6: Thursday - October 30, 2014

Day 7: Monday - November 3, 2014
Hearing: Court of Appeals
Hearing: JSS Court : how to proceed re: Court of Appeals Order

Tuesday – November 4, 2014
JSS Court: Hearing on how to proceed.

Day 8: Wednesday – November 12, 2014

Day 9: Thursday – November 13, 2014

Day 10: Monday – November 17, 2014

Day 11: Thursday - November 20, 2014

Friday - November 21, 2014
JSS Court: Hearing on Computer.

Day 12: Monday - November 24, 2014

Day 13: Tuesday - November 25, 2014

Day 14: Tuesday - December 2, 2014

Thursday - December 4, 2014
JSS Court: Hearing on Computer.

Monday - December 8, 2014
JSS Court: Hearing


NO COURT DAYS:
[Includes Fridays, Saturdays, Sundays and Official Holidays]

Friday - October 24, 2014
Saturday - October 25, 2014
Sunday - October 26, 2014

Wednesday - October 29, 2014

Friday - October 31, 2014
Saturday - November 1, 2014
Sunday - November 2, 2014

Wednesday – November 5, 2014
Thursday – November 6, 2014

Friday – November 7, 2014
Saturday - November 8, 2014
Sunday - November 9, 2014

Monday – November 10, 2014 [No Court – previously scheduled]
Tuesday – November 11, 2014 [Veterans Day]

Friday – November 14, 2014
Saturday - November 15, 2014
Sunday - November 16, 2014

Tuesday – November 18, 2014
Wednesday – November 19, 2014

Saturday - November 22, 2014
Sunday - November 23, 2014

Wednesday – November 26, 2014 [Thanksgiving Holiday]
Thursday – November 27, 2014 [Thanksgiving Holiday]

Friday – November 28, 2014
Saturday - November 29, 2014
Sunday - November 30, 2014

Monday – December 1, 2014
Wednesday – December 3, 2014

Friday - December 5, 2014

Saturday - December 6, 2014
Sunday - December 7, 2014

Tuesday - December 9, 2014

 

[AZlawyer]

Thanks AZ. You are right that the tweeters dont do a very good job with following up with any of the objections. They mainly say that an objection happened and then we never know the result hardly. I cant recall the specific reason Juan has used in his objection but I think I recall it was something about "no basis" or "no prior establishment of topic" or something to that effect. I wish I could recall the exact term he used in the ones I saw where I was cheering him on.

Good point too about penalty phase inadmissability. Since rules are laxed, there is more leeway.

Just wish the DT witnesses would stay focused on relevancy. It seems they are able to bring up anything under the sun even if the guilt phase never talked about the things they are bringing up now. That was the type of thing Juan was objecting to when I saw the tweets.

"Assumes facts not in evidence" maybe? That would be an objection that would still work at the penalty phase.

There is no reason that the defense would be limited to things that were raised at the guilt phase. Lots of things would be irrelevant to guilt but relevant to mitigation.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I did a graphic this morning showing the days of testimony only, if anyone wants me to post this. I did not include days when the jury was not in court for hearings.

:seeya: Yes, please post it ... and THANK YOU !!!

 

[Hatfield]

ITA! If anything, this just goes to show exactly what the DT is trying ti accomplish. It's not putting on mitigation or even anything remotely resembling that. I only wish JSS would realize they are turning it into a mini appeals which is not even remotely appropriate to be in front of her. She should put her gavel down force the DT to get on with THIS phase, and tell them to kick rocks on any issues that should be sent to the court of appeals. No mitigation? Fine, we'll move on with the state's rebuttal case and closings.

JMO of course:
This is a very important point and I totally agree that there have already been many examples of "motions" or "appeals" from the DT that JSS should classify into an "appeal against the original Guilty Verdict" and force Nurmi to bring up ALL those types of items in the right place at the right time (after this sentencing phase is over).

She can easily just "deny" and then classify a lot of these in that fashion to get this phase moving along.

I think she is missing this important point and is getting caught down the rabbit hole and not taking a step back and looking at the big picture and what the DT is actually saying and doing with all these items.

And if I am not mistaken, Juan even tried to help direct some of these accordingly with his responses, and was shot down.

Nurmi has already alluded to that he is going to appeal the privacy one all the way to the Supreme Court...LOL So he knows some of this is not really pertinent for this court.
We were joking about the Supreme Court and Nurmi isnt joking about it. I find that laughable in itself. LOL

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

Whoever is tweeting for Jodi posted "TA tried to murder Jodi on 6/4/2008. He failed. Now his family seeks 2 carry out his murderous agenda--on your dollar." They really really are insane for this kind of thinking. Also they wrote that if JA gets the DP it will be one HUGE waste of money 2.7 mil they say....