Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 12/05-08 In recess

[memoriesbymichelle]

I think in RE: the approximately $2.7 million dollars spent for the defense is less to to do with the costs to prosecute CMJA but more to do with that CMJA doesn't deserve a $3 million dollar defense. In my eyes, that's how I see the argument. Not that travis didn't deserve his justice

JA was the one quoting that figure in her twitter. I don't think she deserves any huge defense but her tweet was in regards to it being a huge waste because she and her supporters still think she's gonna walk

 

[Becky Sharp]

LOL Even Coronation Street was not as melodramatic as this!

Really, NP? Years ago, when I was on maternity leave, I watched Coronation Street fairly regularly for many months, and the primary plot always seemed to involve a psycho--usually a woman--hell bent on destroying one of the primary characters. Once she was defeated, another psycho sooner or later appeared.

But yes, you're right, truth is stranger than fiction.

 

[5bigfish5]

I don't go on the JA support websites. :scared:

I'm not sure whether I can post the link here but it's on the 'Understanding The Travesties of Unexpected Murder Trials' Facebook page. It's safe.

Thank you so much!

Goodness at the mouse print, must be getting harder and harder to smuggle things out of Estrella. Are they weighing people coming and going now?

I like Jason, Lisa, Elizabeth Ann and Jodi Freedom (I'm so sure that is a real name), more than I could have ever imagined.

The attitude, the self-importance, the entitlement. Blows my mind!

I knew Jodi had a chauffer, a staff and a "team", but I had no idea she had an "Art Administrator". Unbelievable!

Part-time little waitress wanna-be from Yreka CA never had it so good. MOO

 

[WhoaIsMe]

Did anybody here read JVM's book about JA? I didn't know she'd written one until seeing the blog entry today on JA's site ranting about her supporters buying it. After she was found guilty I stopped thinking about her except on occasion (like finding myself at Starbucks on a hot day.) Until now, which is kind of messing up Bones for me because lately Angela has been reminding me of her. Anyhow, if anybody did read it, was it any good? And was there any new information in it? TIA

 

[Hatfield]

We have the evidence to prove that she loves to punish and indeed destroy anyone that says no to her, so it fits that she would go after her allegedly cancer-stricken father while she can, after all, wasn't he the one that "punished" her for sneaking out and then lying about it when she was what, 13-15?, this after getting caught growing weed on/in the family home. I wonder what she has in store for her mother who she claims used to beat her from the age of seven and oh my, started to carry a wooden spoon in her purse...

The fact that neither of her parents have testified in either the guilt phase nor this phase so far is extremely important to me. I think even Juror #3 said that it was important to her as well.
I suspect it is important to all the other jurors as well.

What it means is open for interpretation to the jurors.

What it means to me is that the parents know Jodi is lying on the witness stand and it tells me to throw out almost everything she has said and will say in the future.

 

[ShadyLady]

In Arizona, if an attorney is found on appeal to have rendered ineffective assistance of counsel, are there any repercussions to that attorney with the state bar/licensing entity - censure, probation, disbarment, etc?

We all know that will be Arias' next move, right?

Going after her lawyers. She has no loyalties. Beware Nurmi/Wilmott/Maria. YOU are next.

 

[5bigfish5]

I'm a visual person, so for those whose brains work like mine, this shows the actual days of testimony when the jury was present:

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That needs to go in the front hallway of the Courthouse...on the wall of shame.

 

[ShadyLady]

That needs to go in the front hallway of the Courthouse...on the wall of shame.

Could a small note be added to each box saying JM's day....or blue for Juan, red for Nurmi...or something like that.

 

[AZlawyer]

There's one thing I've been wondering.. Is there a deadline in which JSS needs to follow the COA's order? If they tell her to do something, can she just ignore it for as long as needed till Nurmi decides he's done stalling? For example if all Nurmi witnesses are done testifying without a resolution from the AZ Supreme Court will she be bound to wait and postpone rebuttal or does she need to go like this; "The COA said this, I won't wait for the Ax Supreme Court, let's get on with it".

The deadline is immediately. But she is complying with the order. The order said JA couldn't testify in secret. JA is not testifying in secret.

She can certainly refuse to wait any longer and instruct Nurmi to call his next witness.

In Arizona, if an attorney is found on appeal to have rendered ineffective assistance of counsel, are there any repercussions to that attorney with the state bar/licensing entity - censure, probation, disbarment, etc?

No, not automatically, anyway. Someone would have to file a complaint with the State Bar, and they would have to show that an ethics rule was violated. I read all the State Bar orders and can't remember ever in 20 years seeing one that stemmed from allegations of IAC.

 

[Zuri]

I'm a visual person, so for those whose brains work like mine, this shows the actual days of testimony when the jury was present:

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14 days of testimony in 2 months...
A lot of people have put their lives on hold, rearranged their schedules and appointments, and made arrangements with their jobs, childcare, families to serve or attend this trial. The basic lack of consideration for anyone else, other than CMJA, is mind boggling.

I truly believe this trial is no longer about Travis' murder or even CMJA. I think it has now come down to Nurmi and his desire to beat JM at all costs. It seems like a power struggle between the Constitution, the law in Arizona, the judge, the media, the prosecutor and the defense team. JMO

 

[Nali87]

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The deadline is immediately. But she is complying with the order. The order said JA couldn't testify in secret. JA is not testifying in secret.

She can certainly refuse to wait any longer and instruct Nurmi to call his next witness.



No, not automatically, anyway. Someone would have to file a complaint with the State Bar, and they would have to show that an ethics rule was violated. I read all the State Bar orders and can't remember ever in 20 years seeing one that stemmed from allegations of IAC.

Oh right, that's true. I guess what I meant is if she can force the issue right this instance. "Nurmi, she can't testify in secret. Are you going to call her or not?" Answer me right now Nurmi! You already answered that, I guess she doesn't have to do that.

 

[Hatfield]

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Oh right, that's true. I guess what I meant is if she can force the issue right this instance. "Nurmi, she can't testify in secret. Are you going to call her or not?" Answer me right now Nurmi! You already answered that, I guess she doesn't have to do that.

Jumping off your post.
This is the type of thing that gets some of us upset with JSS because if I understand it right she could do that and just is not doing it yet. Why she keeps letting Nurmi stall the trial is beyond me.

She "almost" did it when she said she was not going to wait on the Supreme Court but then she turns around and decides no reason for court this week. Let continue to wait on things.

 

[Val1]

That might have been their hope in the penalty phase. Now, though, there is no chance for acquittal.

Perhaps I used the wrong term.. reversal? I have no doubt this is the ultimate aim of all this bs, from the stalling to the wild claims of prosecutorial misconduct. All while still slogging through the paperwork on pretty much a weekly basis to try and get these allegations admitted into evidence, so as to provide just enough reasonable doubt that the verdict was legitimately obtained.

 

[MistyM]

RBBM:

:seeya: LOL !

IF I did not know any better, I would think I was watching a scripted reality tv show -- NOT the Sentencing Phase for a murderess convicted of 1st degree, pre-meditated murder !

This entire re-trial is a joke !

:moo:

i got paranoid a few times during the actual trial thinking that this was some scripted fake out by cnn or something.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I'm a visual person, so for those whose brains work like mine, this shows the actual days of testimony when the jury was present:

View attachment 65186

:seeya: Thank You for posting that chart !

Easy to read -- and -- Easy to see to count the # of days there was court, which is far less than the # of NO court days !

Oh, and please let me know how to create, upload, and post this type of chart, so I can use it on another case I am following ! TIA !

:cheers:

 

[dog.gone.cute]

That needs to go in the front hallway of the Courthouse...on the wall of shame.

:seeya: Yep !

JMO . . . JSS ought to be totally and completely embarrassed by that chart, which speaks volumes as to her lack of timely and efficiently controlling her courtroom schedule !

:moo:

 

[Val1]

Since Jodi admitted to the LE officer to having Travis passwords she could have easily logged in and made it look like it was Travis sending emails or even text messages.

Travis may have even seen some of these letters that he knew he did not write and that could have been one of the reasons he was so mad at her.

Unless the DT shows Travis hand written signature under a handwritten letter that is proven by a handwriting expert to be his writing then I am not going to believe that Travis actually wrote any of the letters or text messages. Jodi had his passwords to his stuff.

I had actually just the other day(see link) posted what I believe is pretty hard evidence that JA used TA's pc and printer, possibly even from TA's email account, to send herself mail and yes it was one to TA, so the only reason to send it to herself is to use it as "proof"... because otherwise, especially if she had sent it from her own email account, then it should have been easily accessible under her sent items.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?264195-Retrial-for-Sentencing-of-Jodi-Arias-12-05-08-In-recess&p=11280184#post11280184

 

[Val1]

JA was the one quoting that figure in her twitter. I don't think she deserves any huge defense but her tweet was in regards to it being a huge waste because she and her supporters still think she's gonna walk

While she's walking through the gates of hell, TA will be flying through the heavens, probably weeping for the soul that could not, would not, be saved.

 

[gcharlie]

:seeya: Thank You for posting that chart !

Easy to read -- and -- Easy to see to count the # of days there was court, which is far less than the # of NO court days !

Oh, and please let me know how to create, upload, and post this type of chart, so I can use it on another case I am following ! TIA !

:cheers:

I created a table in MS Word and then took a screen shot of it using the snip tool in Windows 7. I kept it very simple for more impact. I also left in the weekends and Fridays when court is dark so that it is clear how many days pass from one day of testimony to the next.

 

[Madeleine74]

14 days of testimony in 2 months...
A lot of people have put their lives on hold, rearranged their schedules and appointments, and made arrangements with their jobs, childcare, families to serve or attend this trial.

That's true, although the jurors would be able to attend and perform their jobs on days court is not in session. Everyone knew going in that there would be no case testimony on Fridays. These additional delays, while disconcerting for spectators, could work out okay for the jurors since, technically, they wouldn't be away from work a solid 8 or 12 weeks or whatever the estimates were. That also allows them to collect at least some of their paycheck, which again, might be a nice unexpected bonus.