Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 2/13 thru 2/18 - Break

[5bigfish5]

The FBI profiler sees her much like you do Brits.
Hugely overinflated sense of self
Need to control everything and everyone. She even wants to run the prison if sentenced to LWOP (she will be teaching Spanish and sign language and in charge of a huge recycling program!)

http://thelip.tv/episode/jodi-arias-pleads-for-life/

Oh doG!

Sometimes I wonder if the Defense didn't want to mention Jodi being a Narcissist and the Prosecution just let sleeping dogs lie.

Truth is, there probably isn't one potential juror on the planet that hasn't dealt with one of those, make your life CRAZIES and blame it on you.

Jodi is smart enough to skew any test tho.
JIC...Thanks Samuels & ALV!

 

[geevee]

I thought tomorrow was just arguing the latest motion to dismiss (you know, because JM flapped his arms while cross examining Geff :facepalm but Nurmi was unable to produce a witness until Wednesday. I could be wrong.

I guess I was thinking Tuesday was the 18th.

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

We also have this:


From whitepages.com

Jodi Arias
9634 E Nido Ave
Mesa, AZ 85209-2243
phone number unavailable
Job title: Owner
Company: J Fine Art & Photography



This is where she lived in Mesa:


http://www.realtor.com/realestatean...ido-Ave_Mesa_AZ_85209_M24390-84203?source=web

Wow that is just WAY too close to my house for comfort! I didn't realize she was so close!

 

[SwampMama]

The death penalty I want for Jodi is the immediate one. Not one where she lingers on for decades and gets more free lawyers, publicity and such at the public's expense. But the reality is that with the death penalty, she gets more free legal representation, she gets adopted as a pet cause by the people who oppose the death penalty, and a whole bunch more people join her freak parade.

While I prefer the death penalty for her, there are also perks to LWOP. If she gets LWOP then her legal costs are now all on her. We taxpayers will no longer have to fund her absurd legal campaigns. She will not have the support and sympathy of the anti-death penalty crusaders. She will be largely forgotten as the world turns to the next new psycho killer. Her looks have long since faded and she has long been revealed as a delusional liar. She has already seen that many of her so called supporters are actually just using her and there is little she can do to control that. I can bet that her family and Aunt Sue will soon be tired of being Jodi's toadies and no one will want to be at her beck and call.

I just want the freak parade to be over, for her to be banished back to a cell in Perryville where she will be largely forgotten. I want her to no longer have a stage or audience to parade her disgusting lies about the good man that she killed and the ability to cause further harm to his family.

 

[GigiG]

So why was she going in and editing his photos??? Rewriting history again? I had started to believe before the 2005 date was pointed out, that she was just filming her target.

If you have Photoshop, it's pretty typical to go in and adjust color balance, contrast, shadows/highlights, etc. Very few photos people take are perfect as-is. Most need at least some basic digital enhancements.

I think it was just another way of her ingratiating herself with Travis, trying to make him see her as someone with "talent" who was willing to "help" him, so he would further appreciate how special and wonderful she is.

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

Depends on whom you're asking.

Some people use the terms sociopath and psychopath interchangeably. Some people prefer one to another. Some others believe psychopathy is genetic whereas a sociopath is born from environmental factors. There's a lot of kerfuffle within the psych community over these terms and their use - as much as antisocial v. psychopathy.

There is absolutely no diagnosis for sociopathy - even forensically, nor a test for it, but there are definitely esteemed psychologists who feel not only is there a distinct difference between the terms, but sociopathy is deserving of its own label.

I tend to stick to using just psychopathy as a label but for me there's varying levels of it - you've got 'good' psychopaths - one who literally can have you believing their reality, who get away with multiple crimes or scams, who are extremely adept at mimicking emotions and fitting in. And then you have the 'bad' ones like Jodi - chaotic, sloppy, insincere, transparent, who don't really ever fit in, can't lie her way out of a paper bag and sets our nerves on edge just to look at her. I like to keep it simple.

Here's a psychology today article describing one psych's view of psychopathy vs. sociopathy. Jodi wouldn't fit neatly into either category using his descriptions but you can find a ton more googling too if anyone's interested. It really is just a matter of opinion for a great many. HTH

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wicked-deeds/201401/how-tell-sociopath-psychopath

Thanks for your answer. I am not a psychiatrist or a psychologist. Nor am I "qualified" to diagnose anyone, but to ME she is a narcissistic, BPD, psychopathic sociopath with anti-social thrown in for good measure.

 

[Colie]

JA wrote a check to TA for $699. I always thought that was to pay her share of the trips.

In the memo it says airfare but not where. I don't know where it would have been to? I do know she flew home for Christmas and again in February/March for Amie's wedding.

 

[GigiG]

The other day I was checking her hair and the background and trying to see if she shopped herself into any vacation pics. I checked quite a few of them and unless she is really good at it or had help, I could not see anything that was obvious.

Which surprised me if she went on so many trips with him.

Photoshopping hair properly is an art unto itself. If she had that skill, she could have gotten a much better job than waitressing.

 

[LinasK]

If you have Photoshop, it's pretty typical to go in and adjust color balance, contrast, shadows/highlights, etc. Very few photos people take are perfect as-is. Most need at least some basic digital enhancements.

I think it was just another way of her ingratiating herself with Travis, trying to make him see her as someone with "talent" who was willing to "help" him, so he would further appreciate how special and wonderful she is.

I have Photoshop.

 

[daisydomino]

Photoshopping hair properly is an art unto itself. If she had that skill, she could have gotten a much better job than waitressing.

Recent versions of Photoshop make it easier, but in 2007 there were plugins that would do pretty well. OnOne makes a popular suite of image editing tools that would do really well with hair even back then. http://www.on1.com/products/suite9/

 

[mydirtysecret]

Finally dawned on me who the WAT tweeter is for cmjas trial. Makes perfect sense.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Snipped:

"I was an artist for decades before I derailed my life. I had a business, Jodi Arias Fine Art & Photography, now defunct. What I do now is the same concept. Marketing my art is completely lawful and not connected with the deeply regrettable things I've done."



http://www.houstonchronicle.com/lif...r-Jodi-Arias-expresses-herself-5657264.php#/0

 

[Hope4More]

First day of retrial, there is only one juror question for Melendez, and it's about the Helio/sex tape.... "Was the (call) recorded to an application on the laptop?" M: I don't know.

JM asked M if he had examined the Helio. Answer- no.

ETA. Hmm. JM also asked Flores whether the Helio was examined. No

I wonder if the jury remembers the trial kicking off one day 1 with porn on the computer and the Helio being brought up? I didn't.

Day 1 ended with Nurmi and JM arguing about the Helio at sidebar. JM stipulates authenticity of sex recording, but not that the Helio was stolen.

Day 2 begins with Nurmi telling JSS he wants a mistrial because JM has questioned the authenticity of the sex tape. Nurmi told JM the State was apprised when the defense came in possession of the Helio in 2010. State's fault if it didn't choose to examine the Helio. Nurmi tells JSS if JM keeps it up the DT will ask that JM be called as a witness (I remember that part).

 

[Quester]

:wave:

Just checking in to see if this train wreck is any closer to closing arguments - anyone have an idea when that might be? TIA

:trainwreck:

 

[Colie]

Does anyone know anything about this?

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper · 19h19 hours ago
#JodiArias' retrial may be off til Wed. but enjoy show for now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYsXWXkNR7k&list=UU0a7s9PLqwIDZLkjF4OpwOg …
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I thought we were back tomorrow?

Tomorrow is a hearing on the pros misconduct. Wed. pseudonym John is testifying.

 

[TexMex]

:wave:

Just checking in to see if this train wreck is any closer to closing arguments - anyone have an idea when that might be? TIA



:trainwreck:

I think the Judge expects Closings by Feb 25-26th

 

[Fuskier]

The FBI profiler sees her much like you do Brits.
She really doesn't feel emotion but (she)sees it in others and mimics it

<respectfully snipped>

BBM. Agree. After the verdict was read out before Court, she lacked emotional reaction - until others in the room "gasp" - then, she mimics a gasp too. It's was not authentic. My opinion only.

 

[Hatfield]

Depends on whom you're asking.

Some people use the terms sociopath and psychopath interchangeably. Some people prefer one to another. Some others believe psychopathy is genetic whereas a sociopath is born from environmental factors. There's a lot of kerfuffle within the psych community over these terms and their use - as much as antisocial v. psychopathy.

There is absolutely no diagnosis for sociopathy - even forensically, nor a test for it, but there are definitely esteemed psychologists who feel not only is there a distinct difference between the terms, but sociopathy is deserving of its own label.

I tend to stick to using just psychopathy as a label but for me there's varying levels of it - you've got 'good' psychopaths - one who literally can have you believing their reality, who get away with multiple crimes or scams, who are extremely adept at mimicking emotions and fitting in. And then you have the 'bad' ones like Jodi - chaotic, sloppy, insincere, transparent, who don't really ever fit in, can't lie her way out of a paper bag and sets our nerves on edge just to look at her. I like to keep it simple.

Here's a psychology today article describing one psych's view of psychopathy vs. sociopathy. Jodi wouldn't fit neatly into either category using his descriptions but you can find a ton more googling too if anyone's interested. It really is just a matter of opinion for a great many. HTH

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wicked-deeds/201401/how-tell-sociopath-psychopath

Would the serial killer Ted Bundy fall into what you would consider a "good" psychopath meaning he was very cunning and fooled a lot of people for a long time?
Yet we know he was definitely sick minded.

 

[ICit]

This photo looks suspect to me. If you enlarge you can see that her fingers look like they were drawn around with a brown color. Perhaps she was cut from one of her photos? Also, her right breast is oddly light compared to the rest of her coloring. It looks the same color as his chest. There are some photos that just not ring true to my eyes.

 

[Hatfield]

Reading different opinions about whether or not pursuing the DP is right (or even a good idea), made me curious about Wendi Andriano.

According to her Wikipedia page (I'm condensing things here), she was sentenced to death in 2004, so she's now been on death row for over 10 years. She's already had her direct appeal which went nowhere, and in 2012 filed another appeal which looks unlikely to be heard by the AZ Supremes. After that she has a shot at another appeal in federal court, and after THAT it would go to the 9th Circuit.

Thus far, it seems to me that most of this has happened with little fanfare or media attention.

So it sounds like it will be several more years until Andriano gets to the point where her sentence would be changed to LWOP (if the 9th Circuit keeps trending the way it has in recent past). 15 - 20 years in solitary before being given LWOP is far worse than having LWOP as the initial sentence. I think the Alexanders understand these nuances, and that's why they favor the DP for Jodi.

BTW, I am not attached to either outcome, whether DP or LWOP. I'll be okay with whatever the jury sees fit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendi_Andriano

Interesting and you could be right that the Alexanders know all this and have weighed their options and have chosen the path that they feel gives Travis the best justice.

Thank you for your post. It is interesting.

If we were in Texas, the sentence would likely be carried out.