Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias #2

[MeeBee]

Ok, nope, Jen thought it was a closed hearing and she's out of town.

 

[YESorNO]

Case Documents
Filing Date Description Docket Date Filing Party
9/25/2014 MOT - Motion - Party (001) 9/26/2014
NOTE: MOTION TO PRECLUDE WITNESSES CONTAINED IN THE "NOTICE OF POTENTIAL PENALTY PHASE WITNESSES" FILED BY THE STATE ON SEPTEMBER 19, 2014

https://www.superiorcourt.maricopa....rtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2008-031021

 

[YESorNO]

Cathy · @courtchatter
26th Sep 2014 from TwitLonger
#JodiArias Nurmi argued preclude media from jury selection all together. They had been limited to the overflow area...judge granted, so we'll have no info coming from jury selection.

https://twitter.com/courtchatter

 

[MeeBee]

Cathy · @courtchatter
26th Sep 2014 from TwitLonger
#JodiArias Nurmi argued preclude media from jury selection all together. They had been limited to the overflow area...judge granted, so we'll have no info coming from jury selection.

https://twitter.com/courtchatter

Fantastic...

 

[Nali87]

I'm starting to think Nurmi just didn't like seeing himself (and his pathetic performance) on TV the last time. :waiting::waiting:

 

[peedoffinny]

If I met both of these freaks on the street, and did not know anything about them, I think I would probably like KC and think she's so sweet, but JA would just creep me out and make the hair on the back of my neck stand up. There's just something about her looks, mannerisms and the coldness to her that scares me. I don't think JA is capable of even faking it to look like a decent human being.

PS. I do know about both of them and want them both to be off this earth - NOW!


This is in response to CIA's post above, I thought it would have been included w/ mine0

 

[MeeBee]

I'm starting to think Nurmi just didn't like seeing himself (and his pathetic performance) on TV the last time. :waiting::waiting:

:ditto: !!!

 

[janx]

Anyway, if we're only getting tweets, I don't see that it makes much difference whether the tweets come from reporters or from other attendees, except that it will be harder to know whose Twitter accounts to follow. The chances of any of the tweeters having a clue what's happening in the courtroom from a legal standpoint are about the same lol.

True, especially if recent history is any indication. Tweeting is both hasty and abbreviated--and anyone can do it.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Maybe JA thought he could support the theory that Travis had a violent temper.

The only deposition complaint I can think of was re: a witness with the initials "DR."



I thought it was just no guaranteed seat for the media until opening arguments. But I could be wrong--it's tough to get accurate news from tweets. You know what would work better? Video coverage.

Anyway, if we're only getting tweets, I don't see that it makes much difference whether the tweets come from reporters or from other attendees, except that it will be harder to know whose Twitter accounts to follow. The chances of any of the tweeters having a clue what's happening in the courtroom from a legal standpoint are about the same lol.

AZ, Mary Ellen of ABC tweeted that Nurmi wanted NO MEDIA in court or in overflow room during jury selection and judge granted his request. It's all on sidebar thread in exact quotes. This is just wrong. I am hoping media will file suit to throw a wrench in things. This to me appears to be yet another sign JSS gives in to JA too often. I have said it before. It is my opinion.

 

[janx]

Case Documents
Filing Date Description Docket Date Filing Party
9/25/2014 MOT - Motion - Party (001) 9/26/2014
NOTE: MOTION TO PRECLUDE WITNESSES CONTAINED IN THE "NOTICE OF POTENTIAL PENALTY PHASE WITNESSES" FILED BY THE STATE ON SEPTEMBER 19, 2014

https://www.superiorcourt.maricopa....rtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2008-031021

I mistakenly assumed earlier that these "potential" witnesses were those of the defense, thinking they were still digging around for witnesses! I stand corrected and will try not to make hasty assumptions in the future.

 

[T-4-2]

Hey... here's a late-breaking revelation: Jodi Arias is creepy. I've always wondered about that Dido song she started singing to herself during the Flores interrogation, happened to be video surfing just now, figured I'd look at the video for the song. In Jodi's version, the opening line is "I didn't hear you breathe." Turns out the actual first line is "I didn't hear you leave." It's easy to over-analyze everything she does, but to me this looks like her changing a Travis/departure image to a Travis/death image. Or maybe it's an innocent mistake and she just misheard the lyric.

 

[YESorNO]

Hey... here's a late-breaking revelation: Jodi Arias is creepy. I've always wondered about that Dido song she started singing to herself during the Flores interrogation, happened to be video surfing just now, figured I'd look at the video for the song. In Jodi's version, the opening line is "I didn't hear you breathe." Turns out the actual first line is "I didn't hear you leave." It's easy to over-analyze everything she does, but to me this looks like her changing a Travis/departure image to a Travis/death image. Or maybe it's an innocent mistake and she just misheard the lyric.

[video=youtube;PSu5nAQ7uZw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSu5nAQ7uZw[/video]

"I am what I am, and I'll do what I want"- sounds just like her- pfttt!

 

[janx]

[video=youtube;PSu5nAQ7uZw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSu5nAQ7uZw[/video]

"I am what I am, and I'll do what I want"- sounds just like her- pfttt!

Except that the woman singing in the video has an incredible voice. The music in the video is artificial and kitsch, but she has a beautiful voice. I would not have even recognized it as the same song that JA was singing in the interrogation room had someone not pointed it out.

 

[T-4-2]

It's a pretty safe bet that just about anything Arias tries will bite her, as all she's got is lies and distortions. So if she's cranked things up for Phase II, I'm hoping to see some truly SPECTACULAR backfires..

I share your confidence in this matter. There's never been any doubt in any reasonable person's mind that once this excruciating farce is over and Jodi has exhausted every conceivable delay tactic and squeezed out every possible last drop of the legal rights our Constitution guarantees to even despicable murderers such as herself, she will, ultimately, be well and thoroughly screwed. Pun absolutely intended.

But the fact is that she has bitten and scratched the whole way and has succeeded in causing lasting harm. Whatever the final outcome (and whenever we get there), Jodi will know for the rest of her unredeemable life that by insisting on a trial, no matter how unwinnable, by refusing to confess to 1st degree murder, by refusing any kind of even remotely appropriate plea deal, that by micro-managing every stage of this trial with the express purpose of making the whole situation as prolonged and painful as possible (except for herself, of course, since she is clearly basking in the attention)... that by doing all of this, she has in a sense come out on top.

I doubt she knows the expression "Pyrrhic victory" (referring to a victory with -- thank you Wikipedia -- "such a devastating cost that it is tantamount to defeat. Someone who wins a Pyrrhic victory has been victorious in some way; however, the heavy toll negates any sense of achievement or profit"), but I believe she's well aware of the concept. The State will ultimately "win," of course, but at a devastating cost, and the heavy toll will negate almost every sense of achievement or profit. Jodi knows the devastating cost and heavy toll her conviction required, and the comfort and self-satisfaction she derives from this knowledge will sustain her for the remainder of her days.

 

[LinasK]

I share your confidence in this matter. There's never been any doubt in any reasonable person's mind that once this excruciating farce is over and Jodi has exhausted every conceivable delay tactic and squeezed out every possible last drop of the legal rights our Constitution guarantees to even despicable murderers such as herself, she will, ultimately, be well and thoroughly screwed. Pun absolutely intended.

But the fact is that she has bitten and scratched the whole way and has succeeded in causing lasting harm. Whatever the final outcome (and whenever we get there), Jodi will know for the rest of her unredeemable life that by insisting on a trial, no matter how unwinnable, by refusing to confess to 1st degree murder, by refusing any kind of even remotely appropriate plea deal, that by micro-managing every stage of this trial with the express purpose of making the whole situation as prolonged and painful as possible (except for herself, of course, since she is clearly basking in the attention)... that by doing all of this, she has in a sense come out on top.

I doubt she knows the expression "Pyrrhic victory" (referring to a victory with -- thank you Wikipedia -- "such a devastating cost that it is tantamount to defeat. Someone who wins a Pyrrhic victory has been victorious in some way; however, the heavy toll negates any sense of achievement or profit"), but I believe she's well aware of the concept. The State will ultimately "win," of course, but at a devastating cost, and the heavy toll will negate almost every sense of achievement or profit. Jodi knows the devastating cost and heavy toll her conviction required, and the comfort and self-satisfaction she derives from this knowledge will sustain her for the remainder of her days.

BBM. The only part of this post I take issue with- Juan would NEVER have offered her any kind of plea deal, and without that offer from the prosecution there was no plea she could accept other than to plead GUILTY.

 

[janx]

I share your confidence in this matter. There's never been any doubt in any reasonable person's mind that once this excruciating farce is over and Jodi has exhausted every conceivable delay tactic and squeezed out every possible last drop of the legal rights our Constitution guarantees to even despicable murderers such as herself, she will, ultimately, be well and thoroughly screwed. Pun absolutely intended.

But the fact is that she has bitten and scratched the whole way and has succeeded in causing lasting harm. Whatever the final outcome (and whenever we get there), Jodi will know for the rest of her unredeemable life that by insisting on a trial, no matter how unwinnable, by refusing to confess to 1st degree murder, by refusing any kind of even remotely appropriate plea deal, that by micro-managing every stage of this trial with the express purpose of making the whole situation as prolonged and painful as possible (except for herself, of course, since she is clearly basking in the attention)... that by doing all of this, she has in a sense come out on top.

I doubt she knows the expression "Pyrrhic victory" (referring to a victory with -- thank you Wikipedia -- "such a devastating cost that it is tantamount to defeat. Someone who wins a Pyrrhic victory has been victorious in some way; however, the heavy toll negates any sense of achievement or profit"), but I believe she's well aware of the concept. The State will ultimately "win," of course, but at a devastating cost, and the heavy toll will negate almost every sense of achievement or profit. Jodi knows the devastating cost and heavy toll her conviction required, and the comfort and self-satisfaction she derives from this knowledge will sustain her for the remainder of her days.

I don't agree with your last sentence (pardon another pun). Once she gets to prison, I doubt she will be self-satisfied.

 

[Truth Detector]

Just my own supposition but it seems like the Bishop is a prosecution witness contained in the State's potential witness list filed on the 19th and the minute entry dated the 22nd orders him to submit to a voluntary interview with JM and now the defense wants to preclude him - does that sound right?

I have suspected same.

 

[Truth Detector]

They should both be locked away.

BBM

And their executions expedited.

 

[Truth Detector]

Maybe JA thought he could support the theory that Travis had a violent temper.

The only deposition complaint I can think of was re: a witness with the initials "DR."



I thought it was just no guaranteed seat for the media until opening arguments. But I could be wrong--it's tough to get accurate news from tweets. You know what would work better? Video coverage.

Anyway, if we're only getting tweets, I don't see that it makes much difference whether the tweets come from reporters or from other attendees, except that it will be harder to know whose Twitter accounts to follow. The chances of any of the tweeters having a clue what's happening in the courtroom from a legal standpoint are about the same lol.

BBM

Many 'sleuthers have documented their assumptions that DR = Deanna Reid.

 

[Truth Detector]

Thanks for answering TD ~

Because I have kind of have been thinking outside the box here. I was just thinking possibly that since JA was baptized in Ca., that perhaps Vernon Parker could/would know that following the ceremony (?) < wrong word?? that there was some type of gathering....that would expose JA's BIG LIE about what SHE said happened right after she was baptized. It's silly I guess, because as I was typing I remembered that this part of the trial is only about life or death. :blushing: But it was the first thing I thought about after I heard that Bishop Parker is in Riverside ca.

Others, especially in the Mormon community, have speculated that it would have been impossible as TA reportedly left shortly after the event/sacrament to return to Arizona.