Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 11

[elementary]

I really think I do have to consider emotions on this one particular matter and it was totally obvious that by this time Travis couldn't take her emotional abuse any longer along with all the other things he knew she had done to him like stalking, slashing his tires, hacking into his personal accounts and horrific other things that we will probably never know about.

The most calm person ever can reach their limits where they just cant take it any longer and will have an emotional outburst when responding and say things they wouldn't normally ever say.

I don't think Travis was ever a jerk. He knew by then Arias was all about sexual manipulation and how truly deceitful she had been so of course this time HE used sexual phrases against her trying to hurt her as much as she had hurt him. Arias thought she was the queen of sex. Travis knew sex meant a lot to JA even though she lied once again.

This conversation doesn't make Travis a jerk imo. It makes him a human being and he reacted like countless of other people have who cant tolerate the pain and hurt from another anymore. Of course he lashed out at her and she deserved everything he said to her and more. That is why I know it had to be something very very serious to bring Travis to this point. It was out of character for him to say these things.

Now if all the 82,000 exchanges showed him to be a jerk I may agree but to have one or two meltdowns when trying to survive the abuse of a psychopath really shows for the most part Travis had to have the patience of Job.

IMO

To me, a jerk is someone who acts like an ignorant pig. Travis had more than enough reason for his very normal and healthy responses to being relentlessly jerked around by a psycho. I save all my contempt for the murdering perp.

 

[Hope4More]

I think he's trying to "stay within the lines" of his mitigation argument while still planting a seed in the mind of at least one juror of "maybe this wasn't premeditated after all," and/or "maybe the guy was a sicko and deserved it anyway."

The mitigation argument is not that she "snapped" from the stressful relationship combined with her mental illness--it's that she PLANNED A HORRIBLE MURDER AND DROVE TO ANOTHER STATE TO COMMIT IT because of the stressful relationship combined with her mental illness. Not too persuasive. So IMO the unspoken arguments are the ones the defense is really hoping will connect.

I hear you. But I didn't hear one iota about that premedation from this witness. I heard snapped. That she couldn't handle the abuse, the pedophile, the being used. That she was too fragile and something must have happened in those 4 hours between sex and murder. That's snapped, said overtly or not.

 

[daisydomino]

Tweets from the courtroom this morning after the break until lunch recess: only 34 Tweets because I have lost interest in this witness

 

[LinTX]

Oh no, we're not. The judge better not allow the defense to argue that this murder was anything but premeditated and that it was premeditated in YREKA.

I think he just did exactly that:

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 22s22 seconds ago
How does it go from sex to murder in four hours? Nurmi asks. Martinez objects. Sidebar. We all want to know that one. #JodiArias

Her whole testimony has been about making TA the abuser and JA the true victim - tricky, I guess, trying to differentiate between "emotional distress" as a valid mitigator vs arguing residual doubt, but IMO they have crossed that line now. His question insinuates both against premed and for self defense, which is residual doubt.

 

[Nore]

Nurmi's arguing 2nd degree murder, not mitigation.

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WAS removed!! Hi Hope, do you or anyone know if it is possible to go for 2nd degree now?
Her crime was too heinous for 2nd. degree. The least should be LWOP.IMO Thank you Hope
for all your jnput ..

 

[Nosey Parker]

Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 7m7 minutes ago
#jodiarias seems to be in a good mood.

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 8m8 minutes ago
#jodiarias is still here laughing with Willmott and getting one last gulp of tasty court water.

Facing the death penalty doesn't appear to be causing her any emotional distress. Perhaps that tendency blew away with the fog.

 

[katiecoolady]

I hear you. But I didn't hear one iota about that premedation from this witness. I heard snapped. That she couldn't handle the abuse, the pedophile, the being used. That she was too fragile and something must have happened in those 4 hours between sex and murder. That's snapped, said overtly or not.

I can't wait til Juan gets ahold of her opinions regarding ALL the premeditation. It will be interesting to see what Nurmi sidesteps in the next line of questioning.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

No we don't. I could care less. She brutally murdered TA and it was premeditated.

BBM

She used sex one last time to let his guard down once again.

She lured him just like a black widow does their mate and after they have sex they kill them.

IMO

 

[Dmacky]

It was Jodi, IMO. She had to set the stage for this witness. This is the witness from California. She's from San Diego- giving it a bad rap. Never heard of her school in the 10+ years I lived there.

I don't think there's an "Expert" in all of Arizona that would touch this ridiculous case. They have to get them all from other states.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Oh, please... I need Juan. This fantasy land is putting me in the crazy zone!
(if I knew how to do icons I would... barf, barf)

:seeya: Here's one for ya : . . . uke:

And yes, we need Juan -- like NOW !

:juanettes:

 

[MeeBee]

@ericksonvision: There's a troll w/no pic & no name, denigrating reporters using the word "murder" @ #JodiArias. Pretty sure that's what she was convicted of

 

[katiecoolady]

Facing the death penalty doesn't appear to be causing her any emotional distress. Perhaps that tendency blew away with the fog.

Yeah in her allocution last time she just seemed so "upset" right? Um, no. Blech

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I think they have other witnesses.

Id still love to know who the secret witness is

BBM: I still think it is CMJA ...

:seeya:

 

[LinasK]

He probably would have had a stronger case with this defense than what he tried to spin in court last year. I guess Jodi didn't want to be seen as mentally ill and weak until her neck was literally on the line.

Yeah, Casey Anthony fought that line of defense too. Don't want to be seen for the evil they really are.
There's a song lyric that comes to mind- not sure of the singer/band "I'm not crazy, I'm just a little unwell, soon you'll see a different side of me".

Okay googled and found it: Matchbox 20- "Unwell"

But I'm not crazy, I'm just a little unwell
I know right now you can't tell
But stay awhile and maybe then you'll see
A different side of me
I'm not crazy, I'm just a little impaired
I know right now you don't care
But soon enough you're gonna think of me
And how I used to be...me

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Tweets from the courtroom this morning after the break until lunch recess: only 34 Tweets because I have lost interest in this witness

I feel your disgust. Me too.

And I have to quickly scroll by Monica's tweets. Most of them make me nauseated just about as much as reading MK.

 

[Hez]

I am sure the state will call demarte again. Because this jury is younger they will likely connect with her more so than the last.

DeMarte won't make the younger females on the jury feel like naughty school children because they text past 11 pm on a school night, or because of certain perfectly normal personal grooming habits they may have.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

@ericksonvision: There's a troll w/no pic & no name, denigrating reporters using the word "murder" @ #JodiArias. Pretty sure that's what she was convicted of

Probably one of the family members or Arias groupies.

 

[~Lyric~]

That argument could fly in a true DV situation where someone had been beaten and abused for so long and had PTSD from it etc. where they just snapped one day and fought back killing them for their own survival.

That person did not drive thousands of miles TOWARD their "abuser", create a sophisticated plan, set it up to get them most vulnerable and follow through with a multiple layered cover up story, going on TV to even fly it. She does NOT fit that profile. God why am I even saying this it's so obvious.

I am a survivor of DV.
I even had thoughts of killing him.
My response, I gave my dad the gun I had, just so it wasn't around period.
My excuse, I didn't want it around my baby.
Then my mom saw the abuse first hand.
When I remarried, several years after his death ( truck vs car ), I would cower at a raised voice.
Now some 30ish years later, I still have moments.
I didn't slaughter him.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

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WAS removed!!

Hi Hope, do you or anyone know if it is possible to go for 2nd degree now?

Her crime was too heinous for 2nd. degree. The least should be LWOP.IMO Thank you Hope
for all your jnput ..

BBM: Nope ... she has already been convicted of 1st degree pre-meditated murder.

:seeya: But ... you may want to have AZlawyer responds to your question as she is MUCH more qualified than I am !

 

[ParrotGal]

Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 24s 25 seconds ago
Fonseca- Love played a part in this killing #jodiarias #3tvarias

There was no LOVE in this relationship. For Travis it was the novelty of a wild and willing sexual partner. For JA it was about control. Her mental disorders override the ability to love. She feels no empathy or care & concern for others. She did not "want " Travis. Even she had to know she could not play the role of good little wife. People with her type of mental disorders fail at ALL relationships. EVERYONE disappoints her. She interprets everything through a lens that distorts and colors all actions of others as if they were directed at or are about HER. She feels smarter than everyone and utterly detached from them. I think her only solace is in exercising control over others, perhaps as an antidote to how totally out of control her inner & outer existence is. We can not rationalize her actions because normal people simply do not think like her. She is one sick gal... with a dose of something very dark & evil mixed in. She is a most dangerous person. MOO